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General Discussion & Debate / CBS News Inquiry 1967 - Warren Report (Dan Rather carries a rifle package)
« Last post by Ross Lidell on Today at 04:19:02 AM »
In June 1967 the CBS Television Network broadcast "A CBS News Inquiry - The Warren Report".

The 4-night series was hosted by Walter Cronkite. It investigated issues raised by the critics of the Warren Report.

CBS News correspondent Dan Rather went to Dallas and participated in several reconstructions of Lee Harvey Oswald's actions on 22 November 1963. One considered the claim that the package carried by Oswald on the day of the assassination was too short to contain his Carcano rifle.

Linnie May Randle and Buell Frazier both estimated (from memory) the length of the package that Lee Oswald carried on the morning of the assassination-day was a maximum of approximately 27 inches. This was about 8 inches shorter than the package would be if it contained Oswald's Carcano rifle disassembled. The longest component part of the Carcano was the wooden stock which measured 34.8 inches.

Buell Frazier testified that Oswald carried the package with the lower part "cupped" in his hand and the upper part under his armpit.

Dan Rather asked viewers to consider: Was his demonstration of carrying 35-inch long paper-bag—containing a disassembled Carcano rifle—consistent with how Buell Frazier described Lee Oswald taking the supposed package of curtain rods towards the Texas School Book Depository?


Dan Rather's demonstration is fascinating whether you agree with its premise or not.
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General Discussion & Debate / Re: My "Paranoiac" Statement Regarding The Hack
« Last post by Tom Scully on Today at 04:18:10 AM »
Quoting mwt exactly as he posted, although I haven't thoroughly read of any obligation to, speaks volumes. 

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It's interesting that the hack occurred right after I'd posted some evidence indicating the KGB was behind the assassination, and that the hack deleted said post and Brian Doyle's cogent reply to it.

Hmmm ...

-- MWT  ;)

PS  But I must be terribly wrong about that, because we already know that those nice Ruskies never do anything like that, just the evil, evil, evil CIA!

Right, Walton?

(LOL)

IOW....


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William E. Nelson CIA Official

The Washington Post Apr 29, 1995

William E. Nelson, 74, who served with the Central Intelligence Agency for 28 years before retiring in 1976 as its deputy director of operations, died April 1 in a nursing home in Newport Beach, Calif. He had Parkinson's disease.

Mr. Nelson was a Buffalo native and Army veteran. A graduate of Columbia Univesity, he received a master's degree in China studies from Harvard University. He began his CIA career in 1948 as an operations office and specialized in the Far East. He was chief of the Far East division of the Operations Directorate from 1968 until becoming deputy director for operations in 1973.

He was a recipient of the Distinguished Intelligence Medal.

Mr. Nelson, who lived in Newport Beach, moved to California in 1977, where he was a vice president of the Fluor Corp., until retiring a second time in 1986.

Survivors include his wife of 45 years, .....
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......FENDIG, PHILIP FRANKLIN.

Ted Shackley introduces Philip F. Fendig to the HSCA :
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General Discussion & Debate / Regarding The Recent Hack ...
« Last post by Thomas Graves on Today at 02:50:18 AM »
It's interesting that the hack occurred right after I'd posted some evidence indicating the KGB was behind the assassination, and that the hack deleted said post and Brian Doyle's cogent reply to it.

Hmmm ...

-- MWT  ;)

PS  But I must be terribly wrong about that, because we already know that those nice Ruskies never do anything like that, just the evil, evil, evil CIA!

Right, Walton?

(LOL)



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General Discussion & Debate / Final Poll Results Which Were Deleted by The Hack
« Last post by Thomas Graves on Today at 02:31:56 AM »
The question:

Are the three people walking across the Pergola Patio in the Towner Film:

Men? -- 0 votes

Women? -- 6 votes

Impossible to tell [because all I can see are blobs]? -- 1 vote

The Tina Towner Film:
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.............


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General Discussion & Debate / Re: Rolling Readers & Murdered Leaders
« Last post by Thomas Graves on Today at 02:24:45 AM »
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Yes, something is wrong. Earlier today all posts after January 17th had disappeared. Perhaps we should stop posting until it is sorted to avoid an even bigger mess.

Fwiw,

I've been posting just about every day since I joined.  When I go to my profile page and click on "show posts," the most recent ones I see now are some I posted way back on May 19.

-- MWT  ;)
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General Discussion & Debate / Re: Rolling Readers & Murdered Leaders
« Last post by Martin Weidmann on Today at 02:16:50 AM »
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Looks like we have lost a few days postings in this thread and another complete thread that Ross (?) started with the Dan Rather paper bag recreation. Are we working off a backup from 4 days ago?

Yes, something is wrong. Earlier today all posts after January 17th had disappeared. Perhaps we should stop posting until it is sorted to avoid an even bigger mess.
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General Discussion & Debate / Re: Rolling Readers & Murdered Leaders
« Last post by Colin Crow on Today at 12:44:19 AM »
Looks like we have lost a few days postings in this thread and another complete thread that Ross (?) started with the Dan Rather paper bag recreation. Are we working off a backup from 4 days ago?
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General Discussion & Debate / Re: Rolling Readers & Murdered Leaders
« Last post by Bill Chapman on May 25, 2019, 10:41:51 PM »
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Part of removal up to where the Barrel can be realeased from the stock.

Remove bolt.
Remove bayonet lug screw.
Remove bayonet lug.
Unscrew the sling (Front barrel band) bracket.
Remove wooden barrel cover.
Remove the 2 action screws for trigger guard.(This releases the barrel from the stock.)

And the opposite to re assemble. Hardly a simple operation especially without a screwdriver.

Pretty sure no screws are needed for the bolt or wooden barrel cover. And how does a screwdriver continue to be a factor in removing the bayonet lug after the bayonet lug has already been loosened by said screwdriver? You wouldn't be padding your list here, now would you?

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General Discussion & Debate / Prayer Woman
« Last post by Brian Doyle on May 25, 2019, 09:34:13 PM »


In my recent phone call with Buell Frazier I explained the evidence that Sarah Stanton had moved to the west side of the portal and had migrated from her being to Frazier's left to being to his right...Frazier agreed that Stanton could have moved and agreed that Stanton may be Prayer Man in Darnell...I asked if I could get an in-person interview with Frazier and show him this visually so he could understand it better and he said he would get back to me...

There's some extremely less than truthful persons who are trying to ignore this most recent and most direct approach to Frazier on the subject...

Frazier told Al Rossi that Lovelady & Shelley had taken off for the railyard...He mentioned nothing about them going out and back again...
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General Discussion & Debate / Re: Was the CIA involved in the JFK assassination?
« Last post by W. Tracy Parnell on May 25, 2019, 08:56:41 PM »
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When and where did Veciana "write" an affidavit on this? Not to be snarky but I assume Mr. Pesa meant "signed" one?

As you've documented - and Veciana's supporters ignore - his story has drastically changed over the decades. Not only did he deny for more than three decades that Phillips was Bishop but his timeline for the alleged meetings and events simply don't make sense.

I found Bill Kelly's response, er, let's say interesting.

No affidavit that I am aware of, just Fonzi's interviews with Veciana and his 3 testimonies. Only one of those testimonies is available, the other two are missing. Kelly is probably not a happy camper. First, Mel Ayton (with some help from Morley and Talbot) debunked the contention that Joannides, Gordon Campbell and Davis Morales were present at the Ambassador Hotel the night RFK was shot. Kelly had spent a considerable amount of time over at EF defending Bradley Ayers who was one of the individuals who "identified" the 3 CIA men. Ayers has apparently made all sorts of unfounded claims that are ripe for debunking. Secondly, Newman, myself and others are looking at Veciana's assertions and finding they don't make sense. So some of the old "CIA-did-it" chestnuts are disappearing.
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