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As soon as I walked into Gordon Shanklin's smoke-filled office, I saw the copy of the newspaper lying on his desk. I grabbed it. Staring back at me in bold, black print was the front-page headline: "FBI KNEW OSWALD CAPABLE OF ACT, REPORTS INDICATE."
I quickly scanned the first few paragraphs while Shanklin sat quietly behind his desk puffing away. The story read, "A source close to the Warren Commission told the Dallas News Thursday that the Commission has testimony from Dallas police that an FBI agent told them moments after the arrest and identification of Lee Harvey Oswald on November 22, that 'we knew he was capable of assassinating the president, but we didn't dream he would do it...'
                                                                        James Hosty, Assignment: Oswald (1996)
                                                                                                     
The source was not Jack Revill. Maybe you can call him the designated whistle blower....but the snitch-- was the government informant Hugh Grant Aynesworth.
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J. Edgar Hoover came out blasting. He categorically denied the story's contentions. Revill himself partially retracted some of the article's allegations; he told the Dallas Times Herald that the comment that I never dreamed Oswald would kill the president was all someone else's fabrication. But Aynesworth and the Morning News had done the damage. It would prove to be irreversible regarding my relationships with the Dallas police and the Dallas media. Contrary to Aynesworth's assertion, Bryan supported my version of the events. He reported that he did not hear me make any kind of comment suggesting I knew Oswald was capable of killing the president.
The whole purpose of the false leak was further incrimination of Oswald...conformation to the general public that Lee Oswald was indeed the assassin.



the snitch-- was the government informant Hugh Grant Aynesworth.

Please tell us the basis for that conclusion.


Here is another side of the story:

From "Witness to History" by Hugh Aynesworth pages 43-44:

Over at City Hall, Chief Curry was stirring up a storm of his own. After returning from Love Field, where he was on hand at 2:38 P.M. to watch Judge Hughes swear in Johnson, Curry read Lieutenant Revill's report on his basement conversation with FBI Agent Hosty with considerable interest.

"If we had known a defector or extremist was anywhere in the city, much less on the parade route, we would have been sitting in his lap," Curry was later quoted by the Associated Press.

The chief told me that up on DPD's third-floor office complex, "I was stopped going down the hall, and the press wanted to know all about what evidence we had and why a Russian defector had been ignored along the mororcade route. I told them that there was a rifle and a pistol belonging to Oswald. And I guess I stepped a bit too far at that point. I said, "The FBI knew all about this man, knew he was capable of killing the president and so forth."

Within the hour FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover dispatched Gordon Shanklin to Curry's office with a message. The bespectacled Shanklin apologized for being there, Curry told me, but nonetheless insisted that the chief retract his statement.

Curry trusted that Lieutenant Revill's report was accurate, but "at that point," he explained, "I didn't see what all the shouting was about. I knew the truth would come out soon. But when Shanklin told me the bureau had not had Oswald under surveillance, I agreed and did soften that statement a few minutes later."

Shanklin hadn't been entirely truthful with Chief Curry. While Oswald wasn't kept under surveillance, the FBI had been very interested in locating him, particularly after they learned in October that he'd visited the Soviet embassy in Mexico City.
But Curry kept his word. As the chief returned to Captain John-known as Will, his middle name-Fritz's office in Homicide and Robbery a few minutes later, he told the big crowd of reporters, "I do not know if and when the bureau interviewed him [Oswald]."
Our story of Jack Revill's memo and Joe Hosty's remarks must have stung sharply over at the Times Herald, for the paper promptly published a poorly considered response that caused embarrassment even to some of its own reporters. The afternoon our story ran, the Times Herald bannered its front page with "FBI Denies Statement on Oswald," and quited Hoover directly. Referring to Revill's recollection the director allegedly said, "That is absolutely false. The agent made no such statement, and the FBI had no such knowledge."

It was a great knock-down of our original story, except for one problem - the Hoover quote was a fabrication. My source for this information was the article's putative writer, George Carter. Angry and deeply embarrassed, George called me to say that not only was his name put on the story without his knowledge but also that the Hoover interview had never occurred. The FBI director would not talk to the Times Herald, Carter told me. He wasn't sure whether the newspaper blithely spliced his name to another official's words or, even worse, made up the quotes altogether.
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General Discussion & Debate / Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory
« Last post by Tim Nickerson on December 08, 2019, 09:06:21 PM »
I'm an academic and getting a degree, in any discipline, is an edge. If you have 2 applicants who are evenly matched in qualifications, one with and one without a degree, you are going to go with the person who went thru the effort to achieve higher learning and got a degree while accruing massive debt. Academia teaches you how to think critically regardless of your field of study. From an academic standpoint, it is evident on this forum who the logisticians are who think critically and those that don't.

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General Discussion & Debate / Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory
« Last post by Tim Nickerson on December 08, 2019, 09:02:02 PM »
Trump is just drifting along with the Obama Legacy. Obama best year for jobs, 2014, had 250,000 jobs added per month (avg.). There were fewer people living in America then, so creation on that level today would be like 280,000/mth. Trickle-Down has nothing to do with it. The rich mostly salt away the extra money or buy stocks.

If it's all "about the economy, stupid" for you, then you'll be voting Democrat.

About 10 million more people had jobs when Obama left office than when he entered the White House. In less than three years, almost 7 million jobs have been created under Trump. Probably not a good idea to hold up Obama as a gauge to be measured against.
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   'Truth distorted" in Stone's JFK? Be specific. No "JFK" = No ARRB

Here: http://www.jfk-online.com/jfk100menu.html. Chew on that. :D
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General Discussion & Debate / Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory
« Last post by Jack Trojan on December 08, 2019, 08:51:35 PM »
Our Universities are not cheap but most of the degrees given out are as worthless as those down there.

Mandatory? WTF are you talking about? For the record, when I refer to useless degrees I'm not talking about the hard sciences.

An unrepentant non-academic.  ;D

I'm an academic and getting a degree, in any discipline, is an edge. If you have 2 applicants who are evenly matched in qualifications, one with and one without a degree, you are going to go with the person who went thru the effort to achieve higher learning and got a degree while accruing massive debt. Academia teaches you how to think critically regardless of your field of study. From an academic standpoint, it is evident on this forum who the logisticians are who think critically and those that don't.
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General Discussion & Debate / Re: A Candidate For Prayer Person?
« Last post by Alan J. Ford on December 08, 2019, 08:48:49 PM »
Akin to our respective placement of the wrongly accused outside of the TSBD-in the front entrance of his workplace during the P. Parade, Mr.  Ford, we'll also have to respectfully disagree upon Mr. DuVall as a candidate for Prayer Man as well.

That said, I am grateful to you for bringing some looooong overdue attention to the front entrance of the TSBD, and its occupants standing there.

If I get a response to my inquiry w/Mr. DuVall's employer, Central Freight, in respect to the uniform colour(s) scheme of their drivers covering Mr. DuVall's employment period, will certainly retrace my steps back here to share that development here. In the photos to date we have of Mr. DuVall, courtesy of his surviving daughter's FB page,  it's not in character for him to present as a shabby dressed-down warehouse-man, with torn/ripped clothing left untucked/untidy.

We also have to take into account...hold that thought brb...Fido!!!!!

*Continuation...

My apologies, we rescued our pet dog from an animal shelter years ago, and there are times when he displays behaviour as if he has a few stubborn mules in his ancestry. As I was saying before, we also have to take into account the CE 1381 statements of the 69 TSBD employees, where in chorus all said they did not see any strangers that afternoon, which begs the question even IF Mr. DuVall was acquainted with several of them via his occasional delivery duties, How do we explain away the statements of the vast majority not acquainted with him? as they ventured back up the stairs to return inside the building...

Surely at least one clerk-typist, if not two dozen more working in a private office in the building void of seeing any deliveries being made, would have made mention of him as a stranger.  Not even 1 out of 69...that's very telling.











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What Paul will never understand or accept is that history books do not contain an objective record of what exactly happened in the past.

Instead, they very often give a skewed version of an event desired by those who controlled the narrative.

I understand perfectly Martin. In the world you inhabit everything is a conspiracy. Everything. Paranoia is mental illness.
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General Discussion & Debate / Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory
« Last post by Jerry Organ on December 08, 2019, 08:37:55 PM »
    I'll start listening to these Egg Heads that throw spread sheets and charts around when it becomes common to see people wearing button up shirts with pocket savers and a slide ruler in their back pocket. Joe 6 Pack understands that: (1) Jobs are at an ALL TIME HIGH, (2) Wages are UP at Least 3% for 16 Straight Months, and (3) Unemployment is at its' Lowest Level in 50 years = "A car in every garage and a chicken in every pot". Joe 6 Pack then gets Trump back into the White House for a 2nd Term. Most of You Haters/Never Trumpers do Not understand the electorate.  This is where the rubber meets the road.

 
Obama had to deal with the Great Recession; Trump didn't, but his policies will cause one.
Another Republican Fat-Cat mess for the Working-Class-Hero Democrats to have to clean up.

    Trump is just drifting along with the Obama Legacy. Obama best year for jobs, 2014, had 250,000 jobs added per month (avg.). There were fewer people living in America then, so creation on that level today would be like 280,000/mth. Trickle-Down has nothing to do with it. The rich mostly salt away the extra money or buy stocks.

If it's all "about the economy, stupid" for you, then you'll be voting Democrat.



Historically, the Democrats have done better with the economy. The Donald agrees.

    "I’ve been around for a long time and it just seems that the economy
     does better under the Democrats than the Republicans."
          Trump, 2004

    "In the early Thirties, many people left their jobs for the more profitable
     one of selling apples."
​          Herbert Hoover, Memoirs, Volume 3 (pub. 1952) ​
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General Discussion & Debate / Re: Jack Ruby and Seth Kantor at Parkland Hospital
« Last post by Robert Doane on December 08, 2019, 08:36:54 PM »
  This could be Jack Ruby [I didn't know he was so short] Same build.. suit.. and fedora hat------------
https://app.box.com/s/8b408e6999f8799dfd0a/file/17669463452
[ FMG Vol3 page 140..a pdf file]
The Seth Kantor affair is a blatant demonstration that the Warren Commission and their staff willingly ignored the truth and the actual facts of the assassination so they could produce Oswald as a lone nut and that [as they put it] No evidence of a conspiracy could be found.
My speculation [pure conjecture] is that Ruby was there at Parkland Hospital to plant that bullet known as CE 399.

I had always imagined Ruby a little shorter, but in the last few years I thought I read he was around 6 foot, but just read an article stating in his autopsy he was 5 foot 8 inches,around 145 or 150 pounds. Oddly enough the ads showing up on this page for me right now are for fedora hats.
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General Discussion & Debate / Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory
« Last post by Tim Nickerson on December 08, 2019, 08:34:40 PM »
No one said is was Canada's problem since you have cheap universities giving out useless degrees. So STFU.

Our Universities are not cheap but most of the degrees given out are as worthless as those down there.

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ps. It tells me a lot that you think in today's tech world a degree is useless. It's fricken mandatory, whether it's even relevant, gramps. Clearly spoken by a non-academic.

Mandatory? WTF are you talking about? For the record, when I refer to useless degrees I'm not talking about the hard sciences.

An unrepentant non-academic.  ;D
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