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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Last post by Alan Ford on March 16, 2023, 03:12:17 PM »
And then there's the question of how the man [EDIT: WOMAN] can be holding the object at an angle without its plunging vertically. He's [EDIT: SHE'S] in front of the larger mailbox on the (=our) right, so it's not being supported by that. And we see a little of it underneath the horizontal plank of the road works barrier, which means that barrier is not supporting it either:



Kinda reminds us, don't it, of a not wholly dissimilar question folks have asked for years about this famous object:



 ???
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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Last post by Alan Ford on March 16, 2023, 02:54:07 PM »
We can see that this is the street works barrier:



And that this is the man's leg:



But what in the heck is this thing between the man and the barrier? A briefcase?



And what in the heck are these things that look like the legs of a junior mannequin?



Lustrous insights gratefully received!

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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: A time to receive and give (CE399)
« Last post by Alan Ford on March 16, 2023, 02:26:58 PM »
Quote from: Dan O'meara on March 16, 2023, 02:05:08 PM
Thanks Alan.

It isn't an either/or situation.
Answering the question "Why was CE399 substituted/planted/introduced into the chain of custody", must be speculative because we don't have direct evidence of it, but that speculation must be logical otherwise it's meaningless.

Well, whatever adjective we want to use for the answer to the question "Why was CE399 substituted/planted/introduced into the chain of custody?", the answer itself is pretty obvious: to promote a lone-gunman scenario
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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: A time to receive and give (CE399)
« Last post by Dan O'meara on March 16, 2023, 02:05:08 PM »
Quote from: Alan Ford on March 16, 2023, 12:52:44 PM
Excellent work!

But whatever about the 'what' and the 'who', the answer to 'Why?' is surely logical rather than speculative..........

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Thanks Alan.

It isn't an either/or situation.
Answering the question "Why was CE399 substituted/planted/introduced into the chain of custody", must be speculative because we don't have direct evidence of it, but that speculation must be logical otherwise it's meaningless.
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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: A time to receive and give (CE399)
« Last post by Alan Ford on March 16, 2023, 12:52:44 PM »
Quote from: Dan O'meara on March 16, 2023, 11:37:41 AM
I don't think so.
To be honest, I reckon this thread has run it's course.
The weight of evidence regarding CE399, as it stands, strongly supports the view that it was not the bullet found by Tomlinson in Parkland.
The evidence supporting the counter-position, the CE399 was the bullet found at Parkland, is almost non-existent.
It appears that at some point in the FBI lab in Washington, the pointy-tipped bullet Wright gave to Johnsen, becomes CE399.
Beyond that we can only speculate as to what happened, who did it and why.

Excellent work!

But whatever about the 'what' and the 'who', the answer to 'Why?' is surely logical rather than speculative..........

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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Last post by Alan Ford on March 16, 2023, 12:49:47 PM »
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Off Topic / Re: Streets of Philadelphia
« Last post by Richard Smith on March 16, 2023, 12:35:49 PM »
Ukraine Joe will go down as the worst president in modern history.  Even worse than Carter.  Disaster after disaster unfolding on a daily basis.  It's almost unreal.  Vegas should hire him as a cooler to stand next to gamblers he is so unlucky.  Obama got it right.  Never underestimate Old Joe's ability to screw things up.  He has a nearly 40-year perfect record of being on the wrong side of every decision.  His clown show cabinet of incompetents are not helping.  Not a single one is qualified for the position they hold. 
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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: The First Shot
« Last post by Dan O'meara on March 16, 2023, 11:46:22 AM »


Above is the view from the SN window the assassin was staring at, "transfixed".
As far as the assassin is concerned there is only one feature of interest - the open stretch of road beyond the oak tree.
It makes perfect sense that the assassin has already made up his mind regarding his plan of action.
The idea that he starts taking random potshots as the limo passes the TSBD won't fly. The idea that he is rushing so much he needs to fire through the oak tree won't fly.
Look at the picture above, if you were the assassin, when would you pull the trigger?
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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: A time to receive and give (CE399)
« Last post by Dan O'meara on March 16, 2023, 11:37:41 AM »
Quote from: Martin Weidmann on March 16, 2023, 10:42:48 AM
And so the conversation we had with Andrew is going off the rails, just like Todd intended.
Have fun with the next 10 pages or so of yes vs no arguments.

I don't think so.
To be honest, I reckon this thread has run it's course.
The weight of evidence regarding CE399, as it stands, strongly supports the view that it was not the bullet found by Tomlinson in Parkland.
The evidence supporting the counter-position, the CE399 was the bullet found at Parkland, is almost non-existent.
It appears that at some point in the FBI lab in Washington, the pointy-tipped bullet Wright gave to Johnsen, becomes CE399.
Beyond that we can only speculate as to what happened, who did it and why.
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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: A time to receive and give (CE399)
« Last post by Martin Weidmann on March 16, 2023, 10:42:48 AM »
And so the conversation we had with Andrew is going off the rails, just like Todd intended.
Have fun with the next 10 pages or so of yes vs no arguments.
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