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General Discussion & Debate / Re: Roses Are Red...
« Last post by Richard Smith on February 14, 2019, 07:01:35 PM »
...and you are dead.

I have been told, and I have read, over the years that Jackie Kennedy was given red roses because they were out of yellow ones. This sounds ridiculous, but I have accepted it despite her receiving yellow roses just the day before.

Imagine my surprise when listening to as it happened coverage on KLIF when hearing Lady Bird Johnson received YELLOW roses at Love Field upon arrival!

Those roses were a signal most likely IMO. Yellow=abort. Red=go.

That is tin foil hat nonsense even by prior low standards, but why would LBJ need a signal?  Even if he was involved in the assassination plot, he would see for himself if anything happened.  He was in the motorcade.  He wouldn't have any action to take in the act other than to become President if it succeeds.  If he needed a signal, however, why couldn't it be yellow roses?  I will give you some credit though.  Some sources suggest LadyBird's flowers were white but they do appear to be yellow in the color photos.   The flower on LBJ's suit is white.
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General Discussion & Debate / Re: Roses Are Red...
« Last post by Walt Cakebread on February 14, 2019, 06:18:47 PM »
...and you are dead.

I have been told, and I have read, over the years that Jackie Kennedy was given red roses because they were out of yellow ones. This sounds ridiculous, but I have accepted it despite her receiving yellow roses just the day before.

Imagine my surprise when listening to as it happened coverage on KLIF when hearing Lady Bird Johnson received YELLOW roses at Love Field upon arrival!

Those roses were a signal most likely IMO. Yellow=abort. Red=go.

Red Roses for Jackie.... and Red Rings on the windows for LBJ.....
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General Discussion & Debate / Re: Which cop gets the credit?
« Last post by Jerry Freeman on February 14, 2019, 06:10:16 PM »
It is stated in the above post that Ray Hawkins arrested Lee Harvey Oswald.
However for some reason most all the department credit McDonald for the collar.
Mr Hawkins name is not on the arrest sheet.
 
 


Maybe he grabbed McDonald's cuffs and neglected to return them.
As the report was filled out, the charge of investigation the killing of President Kennedy was included..
 Also the assault on Gov Connally. The time of arrest was listed at 1:40 PM.
Those cops were really fast huh?
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General Discussion & Debate / Roses Are Red...
« Last post by Rob Caprio on February 14, 2019, 06:05:42 PM »
...and you are dead.

I have been told, and I have read, over the years that Jackie Kennedy was given red roses because they were out of yellow ones. This sounds ridiculous, but I have accepted it despite her receiving yellow roses just the day before.

Imagine my surprise when listening to as it happened coverage on KLIF when hearing Lady Bird Johnson received YELLOW roses at Love Field upon arrival!

Those roses were a signal most likely IMO. Yellow=abort. Red=go.
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General Discussion & Debate / Prayer Woman
« Last post by Brian Doyle on February 14, 2019, 05:53:03 PM »
What Greg and Bart are ignoring is that I have given a reason for the variation in Hosty's notes...Hosty omits the specifics of the lunch room encounter and Baker because he is trying to avoid bringing attention to the timing of the lunch room encounter and the fact Oswald was in there during the shooting...The Prayer Man people ignore this better more sophisticated explanation of Hosty's notes because they are trying to avoid the details that show they are not correctly interpreting them...There's a reason Hosty omits Baker from his original notes and it isn't because he's trying to avoid admitting Prayer Man is Oswald...Jim D, in his Mr Magoo-like blindness, totally misses how Hosty avoiding the details of the lunch room encounter mirrors exactly what Baker did in his 1st day affidavit and for the same reason...They were both staying away from exonerating details that showed Oswald was in the 2nd floor lunch room during the shots...Hosty also incriminates himself by omitting Shelley from his notes...The reason he does that is because Shelley helped Oswald out the back door and he didn't want to bring attention to him...So we have a pattern here of FBI Hosty not including names or details that expose some of the most dangerous conspiracy evidence...Kamp is dishonestly avoiding admitting that Hosty covers the part where Oswald went out front with Bill Shelley in Fritz's and Bookhout's notes by entering "Went outside to watch presidential parade"...If Kamp were more honest he would admit that, according to the corresponding pattern in all 3 reports, that had to occur several minutes after the time Prayer Man was filmed out in the portal...They ignore that the reason Hosty's notes are different is because he is trying to avoid the things that prove our version of Oswald being in the lunch room...It is highly dishonest to deliberately offer a more primitive version like Kamp does in order to avoid these clarifying details...
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General Discussion & Debate / Re: Did Poe Mark The Shells?
« Last post by Walt Cakebread on February 14, 2019, 05:16:30 PM »
Oswald was removing the shells manually because one of them had split, preventing the removal of them all at once by the extractor.

Shell casings do not get that hot. Certainly not hot enough to prevent their being removed without burning one's hand.

Oswald was removing the shells manually because one of them had split, preventing the removal of them all at once by the extractor.

Cortland Cunningham's palm was covered with burned gunpowder when he extracted the spent shells from the S&W revolver.....Lee Oswald had NO gunpowder residue on his hands.... There was only a TRACE of nitrates..... And the  nitrites could have came from dozens of sources.
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General Discussion & Debate / Re: Who did Brennan see on the Fifth Floor?
« Last post by Walt Cakebread on February 14, 2019, 05:09:45 PM »
So the important information that Brennan provided was that he saw just two men in the windows on the fifth floor prior to the shooting......not 3.

Yes....I believe that is what Brennan said....And thats what the Hughes film shows.   The Hughes film was taken just a few seconds before the shots were heard and there seems to be only TWO people behind the fifth floor windows (1st and 4th from the east end) .....Bonnie Ray most certainly is NOT in the position where he appears in  Tom Dillard's photo.
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General Discussion & Debate / Prayer Woman
« Last post by Brian Doyle on February 14, 2019, 05:01:46 PM »
Sandy Larsen wrote:

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Sure you can disagree with me. But your opinion won't be worth a lick of salt unless you actually study my proof and show me where it goes wrong.

And when you say you disagree with me, I can't let that go unchallenged because it implies that actually have found an error in my proof.

And then when you post that demanded proof we'll have our moderator ban you...

This is the same Sandy Larsen who said he wasn't saying Oswald was Prayer Man...
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General Discussion & Debate / Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Last post by Walt Cakebread on February 14, 2019, 04:48:29 PM »
All Chapman has is crap.

Are you saying that Mr Chapman is in reality Mr Crapman?
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