JFK Assassination Forum

How is it null and void Tony?  She signed it and notated it. In doing so, she confirmed that she did indeed testify that she encountered Lovelady and Shelley upon reaching the first floor.

Wasn't used Tim. Hence one can call into question the ENTIRE document and its origins.

The Stroud document lists all of the corrections of which NONE were implemented.

What does this suggest to you Tim?

You really have only 2 choices:

1. All the obfuscatilon, the unclear or absence of autopsy photos, the rearranging  of evidence, the shoddy notes taken by Will Fritz, unable to have lawyer, stenographer, present or find a recorder to tape Oswalds "interrogation" etc, is an indication of conspiracy or at the very least introduces reasonable doubt.

2. All the confusion and anomalous "evidence" like CE 399 is because of complete and utter incompetence of the investigators. And it was a consistent incompetence at every point in time, right up to the failure to provide adequate security for Oswalds transfer which led to his execution in real time, viewed by millions of people.

Questions:

A. A US Marine trained rifleman decides not to use a position he has been trained to use, instead, elects to arrange boxes that will force him to use some unconventional odd position half standing, and/or leaning over top of boxes. Why? Unless its not Oswald the Marine, but some other shooter maybe?

B. How does the shooter know if his arrangement of boxes, his adjustment of window from almost fully open (Arnold Rowland observiing Bonnie Ray Williams in that SE window at 12:15 and 12:20pm), and if his leaning over boxes planned position will work, without testing it out beforehand?

C. If the shooter does all this activity, including testing see if his rifle rests correctly, during the 4-5 minutes just before JFK limo arrives, why does no one see any this activity in that SE window?

Witness observing shooter before JFK limo arrives:
 
Howard Brennan only saw a gunman apparently just standing leaning against wall, but no movement.

Arnold Rowland only saw a gunman briefly
 at SW 6th story window, just standing, but not no activity either.

D. Why, if Arnold Rowland has checked window every 5 minutes right up until JFK limo arrive, did he not notice the distinct change from a Negro being in a mostly open window, with NO box on the ledge, (BRW at 12:15-12:25) to a window now only 1/4th open and box which can clearly can be seen on the window ledge?

E. The box on the window ledge is angled in an unstable awkward position, and which prompted Luke Mooney to question what its purpose was, and if it might have actually been moved accidentally after the fact, by the shooter.

F. Since there appears to be some kind of dent or deformation on the top of the small box on window ledge, this suggests the box was used as rifle rest, but its never been demonstrated by any shooter experiment that this is a plausible rifle rest position.

G. The absence of any fingerprints on the box that had to be lifted up to and adjusted on the window ledge? Why? Does the shooter remember use hankerchief or gloves this time, and just for this box, but forgets when moving other boxes?

Concerning the head shot trajectory from the SE window

A. The angle is such, because of JFK head rotated left and is leaning left, (as already shown here in several of Paul diagrams), raises doubt about how such a minimal tangential impact of upper right curvature of skull, could have caused an 6.5mm FMJ Mannlicher Carcano bullet to fragment into 4 nearly equal pieces, one of which would have had to deflect longitudinally across  most the right hemisphere of JFK skull so as to exit at the "V" notch. This is the only probable way to have causes the radial fragmentation lines seen in the right lateral JFK x ray, which lines if extended, intersect approximately at the "V" notch seen in the Autopsy photo.

B. Until such time as there has been conducted an experiment firing an FMJ 6.5mm ballshaped bullet striking an human skull or approximate model representing such, it remains doubtful such type bullet would fragment into 4 equal fragments approx, upon striking a curvilininear rigid shell.

C. The experiment done in to replicate the blood spatter pattern of Z 313 frame, the bullet that traversed the tangential upper right side of the dummy skull, did NOT fragment AT ALL!!!

It is interesting Tim, that BOTH Lovelady and Shelley had no recollection of this first floor "encounter" with Adams just several months later.

So if you believe in Victoria's "recollection" of seeing and speaking with Lovelady and Shelley how come both men don't support her version of events?

Memory loss by both Lovelady and Shelley? 

Lovelady and Shelley both recalled remaining on the steps of the building for three to four minutes after the shooting. Memory loss by both Lovelady and Shelley?