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General Discussion & Debate / Re: Is This Our Man?
« Last post by Alan Ford on Today at 07:34:57 AM »
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Bald spot man (BSM) appears to have his left hand out of his pocket and as he turns he looks down at whatever the blue coat guy (BCG) is holding (briefcase?) and either drops something into whatever the BCG is holding or just puts his left hand directly in his pocket. He definitely is looking at whatever the BCG is holding and the BCG responds by looking away. It does look suspicious but it's meaningless unless it can be established that this was Euins' BSM. If there was a transfer it was because BSM needed to ditch evidence and BCG was less likely to be searched.



Excellent analysis, Mr Trojan!  Thumb1:
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General Discussion & Debate / Re: Those Front Steps
« Last post by Alan Ford on Today at 07:33:44 AM »
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So anyone who questions Alan Fords theory of the day, is one of the above?

Anyone who tries to explain away the magic 'shadow' down Mr Lovelady in the ridiculous way you have done, Mr Mason, certainly is!  Thumb1:
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General Discussion & Debate / Those Front Steps
« Last post by Brian Doyle on Today at 07:00:19 AM »
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      Nobody, repeat Nobody stands with their back to a door that Opens Toward them and is a scant 1.5 feet away.

It also opens inward...

People stand with their backs toward doors all the time...

You're dodging answering the point about the shadows being similar on the cops and Frazier...
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General Discussion & Debate / Re: Is This Our Man?
« Last post by Thomas Graves on Today at 05:52:56 AM »
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      Everything you reference does Not provide an actual Time Stamp.  I believe that the middle aged Wiegman is a pretty good stop watch. He and the other photog's jumped out of their camera cars because they felt that on foot they could move faster than their camera cars were moving/inching along. Wiegman jumped out of his camera car #1 as it was turning onto Elm. He ran down Elm, STOPPED to film the Comm. Car and the LBJ SS car in front of him, he then moved UP the knoll, STOPPED and filmed the Alleged Hester's, moved Across the knoll, moved Down the knoll, STOPPED and filmed the Newman Family, and somehow was STILL in front of his camera car which had Not even reached the Stemmons Sign by then. How long do you believe it took the middle aged Wiegman to do ALL of this? Plus, Couch was inside Camera Car #3 which was 2 cars behind Wiegman's car.  I bring up the Couch camera car #3 due to both Couch and Darnell being inside this car that was trailing behind the slow moving Wiegman camera car. It is obvious that these camera cars and everything behind them were either Not moving or moving at an absolute crawl.

Royell,

Do you really think it took Clyde Haygood two to three minutes to ride his motorcycle from where he was when he heard the first shot ("just approaching Houston Street on Main Street") to the turn at Houston and Elm, or that he waited politely with the camera cars for however long the were stopped there?

Did he say anything about stopping in his Warren Commission testimony?

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General Discussion & Debate / Re: Is This Our Man?
« Last post by Royell Storing on Today at 05:40:37 AM »
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Royell,

As you know, Gerda Dunckel synchronized the Couch and Darnell clips into one coherent GIF.

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Are you saying this Couch-Darnell GIF was filmed about two minutes after the assassination?

Did the motorcycle policemen stop and wait for a couple of minutes with the camera cars?

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Isn't that Frank Cancellare racing down the grassy slope to photograph the Newman family lying on the ground?

We can see Cancellare photographing the Newmans in this photo:

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As for the other photographers "caught" running and kinda standing around in Couch, this fine website by Denis Morissette might help:

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Motorcycle officer Clyde A. Haygood was riding right behind Marion Baker and was "just approaching Houston Street on Main Street" when he heard the shots ring out. When he made the turn at Houston and Elm, he saw people lying on the grass and pointing towards the railway yard, so he rode down Elm Street to approximately where JFK had been hit, and ended up struggling to park his bike by the curb after he'd evidently tried to jump it.

Isn't that Haygood, passing Couch's camera car on the left and then passing in front of camera car #2 to the right and heading down Elm Street to that spot?

(Do you see Haygood's motorcycle already parked at the curb down on Elm Street?  I don't.)

If so, do you really think it took him a minute or two, from the time of the fatal head shot, to pass Couch's car?

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      Everything you reference does Not provide an actual Time Stamp.  I believe that the middle aged Wiegman is a pretty good stop watch. He and the other photog's jumped out of their camera cars because they felt that on foot they could move faster than their camera cars were moving/inching along. Wiegman jumped out of his camera car #1 as it was turning onto Elm. He ran down Elm, STOPPED to film the Comm. Car and the LBJ SS car in front of him, he then moved UP the knoll, STOPPED and filmed the Alleged Hester's, moved Across the knoll, moved Down the knoll, STOPPED and filmed the Newman Family, and somehow was STILL in front of his camera car which had Not even reached the Stemmons Sign by then. How long do you believe it took the middle aged Wiegman to do ALL of this? Plus, Couch was inside Camera Car #3 which was 2 cars behind Wiegman's car.  I bring up the Couch camera car #3 due to both Couch and Darnell being inside this car that was trailing behind the slow moving Wiegman camera car. It is obvious that these camera cars and everything behind them were either Not moving or moving at an absolute crawl.
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General Discussion & Debate / Re: A Better Sequence (TM DVP)
« Last post by Colin Crow on Today at 02:08:41 AM »
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No.  Is that you Hillary?

Tenzing?
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General Discussion & Debate / Re: Is This Our Man?
« Last post by Thomas Graves on Today at 01:55:32 AM »
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     With regard to Darnell, there is exceptionally little footage of his showing what was happening on Elm St. As for Couch, he did Not get his film rolling until his camera car #3 had made the turn and was headed down Elm St. And remember, the Lovelady & Shelley WC testimonies corroborate their heading down the Elm St extension 2-3 minutes AFTER the Kill Shot = a Time Stamp. THIS Testimony Time Stamps the footage showing Lovelady and Shelley going down the Elm Ext as being 2-3 Minutes AFTER the Kill Shot. This same 2-3 minute Time Stamping also applies to Officer Baker being filmed running toward the TSBD. Incidentally, Lovelady testified as seeing Baker running toward the TSBD as he and Shelley were going down the Elm Ext.

Royell,

As you know, Gerda Dunckel synchronized the Couch and Darnell clips into one coherent GIF.

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Are you saying this Couch-Darnell GIF was filmed about two minutes after the assassination?

Did the motorcycle policemen stop and wait for a couple of minutes with the camera cars?

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Isn't that Frank Cancellare racing down the grassy slope to photograph the Newman family lying on the ground?

We can see Cancellare photographing the Newmans in this photo:

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As for the other photographers "caught" running and kinda standing around in Couch, this fine website by Denis Morissette might help:

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Motorcycle officer Clyde A. Haygood was riding right behind Marion Baker and was "just approaching Houston Street on Main Street" when he heard the shots ring out. When he made the turn at Houston and Elm, he saw people lying on the grass and pointing towards the railway yard, so he rode down Elm Street to approximately where JFK had been hit, and ended up struggling to park his bike by the curb after he'd evidently tried to jump it.

Isn't that Haygood, passing Couch's camera car on the left and then passing in front of camera car #2 to the right and heading down Elm Street to that spot?

(Do you see Haygood's motorcycle already parked at the curb down on Elm Street?  I don't.)

If so, do you really think it took him one to three minutes, from the time of the fatal head shot, to pass Couch's car?

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Walt - there's a button on your keyboard. It controls the playback of the video. Use it to pause and play and as you pause, read the info that's coming in. Just because the data is coming in quickly doesn't mean you have to sit there and take it all in at once.

Charles - good point. If you can somehow track down when Oswald supposedly left the building, post here and perhaps Mark can update it.

Margaret - Mark said he's trying to make this as factually accurate as possible. If you know something is incorrect, don't just say so - back it up with testimony or whatever so Mark can review and update.
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General Discussion & Debate / Re: Those Front Steps
« Last post by Royell Storing on Today at 01:35:46 AM »
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That's just empty talk...

The science you are obviously oblivious to shows that the column/lintel corner shadow that you can see in Darnell on Frazier is also seen in the Davidson GIF on the cops' backs...If you look closely it is about 1.5 feet from the glass partition...

That's obviously why Davidson posted it even though he added no words himself...

      Nobody, repeat Nobody stands with their back to a door that Opens Toward them and is a scant 1.5 feet away.
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General Discussion & Debate / Re: A Better Sequence (TM DVP)
« Last post by Zeon Mason on Today at 01:31:29 AM »
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"30 odd sized 6" rifle and from 200 feet away. Rowland telling them how much he knew about guns and scopes too. What a guy.

It must be you don't see anything wrong with his statement.

Only a know it all who thinks that he's superior would make an issue out of Rowland's statement......

While it's technically true that there is no such rifle as a 30 odd six ....a truly knowing person would simply dismiss Rowland's statement as  his misunderstanding of the often used thirty  aught six ( aught being an old fashion term for zero)   IOW ...Rowlands was referring to a 30-06....which is actually a cartridge designation and not a rifle at all....  BUT many people refer to a rifle that uses the 30-06 cartridge as a 30-06 rifle.   It's not at all uncommon and only a smart ass would make an issue of Rowland's misunderstanding.

Imo, Rowland was making the reference to a 30.06 "hunting rifle" with a "large scope" to indirectly defy the idea that it could have been an Mannlicher Carcano rifle with longer woorden stock and smaller diameter scope.

It is doubtful Rowland could have mistaken a wooden stock rifle with only about 5" of barrel extending beyond, vs a 30.06 typical rifle with a barrel that extends about 12" or more past the wooden stock.

It is doubtful that Rowland could have seen the type of off center , smaller diameter scope, of the MC rifle, from over 200 ft away when that scope is barely visible in the BYPs which photo was taken from about 10 ft away.
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