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[If the sniper used Oswald's Carcano,] then he did a pretty amazing job of scoring a hit on JFK on his FIRST shot which is at Z223-224.

Oswald's FIRST shot wasn't at Z-223 - Z-224.

His second shot was, though.
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This scenario seems to fall under the plausible believability scenario.
Someone could have entered.
That doesn’t mean they did.
No-one reported any strangers entering the building. Or Oswald moving about to let someone in.
Who would he have let in?
Some mafia or CIA hitman presumably.
Where’s the verification?
2+2=5

  Thank you. I have been contacted by many respected JFK Assassination Researchers with the same opinion that you hold. "VERY Plausible". The problem here is that NO ONE has ever gotten into these Huge Gates being "wide open" before, during, and after the Kill Shot. With respect to your, "No-one reported any stranger entering the building", once you walked through those huge gates and then enter the TSBD 1st floor, you are almost on top of the stairwell and freight elevators. You are on the very fringe of the TSBD 1st floor. Even if someone was on the 1st Floor shortly before the assassination, their attention would Not be directed toward the Back corner of that 1st floor. Officer Mooney detailed the entrance being close to the stairwell and freight elevators in his WC Testimony. Mooney was called before the WC to verify his finding the 6th floor Sniper's Nest. But like many testimonies, there are Pearls buried within the testimony that apply to other areas of the JFK Assassination.
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Maybe it’s not quite as sloppy as it may appear.
 If the conspirator shooter IS using the MC rifle that Oswald had been “given”?  (For a period of time and taken photo of) then this shooter did a pretty amazing job of scoring a hit on JFK on his FIRST shot which is at Z223-224.
Then in another 4.8 secs after that he got the 313 head kill shot ( an 8”diameter target moving away at 8mph at about 90 yds.) And he did that with irons sights most likely because the scope was misaligned. Imo, that’s NOT an amateur shooter.
Then just to make sure that at least a couple of witness would see the rifle at the 6th floor SE window sticking out the window, the shooter fired a 3rd  shot about 2 secs AFTER 313, which was not really aimed , and hit the curb near Tague.

This conspirator shooter probably got into the TSBD with the MC rifle on the late night Thursday, and hid himself on the 7th floor attic space, He came down to the 6th floor at 12:15pm to the SW 6th floor window where he was seen by Arnold Rowland. He saw BR Williams so retreated and hid himself until NRW had left the floor. The shooter then moved to SE window to get a better shot angle.

Why the conspirator shooter did not just leave the rifle in plain view at the SE window? Maybe he thought that would be too obvious and cause suspicion of a set up of Oswald, otherwise I’m not sure.

How this shooter escaped from 6th floor and past Baker and Truly as they were watching Oswald in the 2nd floor lunchroom, would be to use the west elevator ( instead of Dougherty).

If Dougherty could have used the west elevator and not be seen by Dorothy Garner, Baker, Truly, or Eddie Piper, then so could the shooter.

What was Oswald carrying in the paper bag that was under his armpit and in the cup of his hand? If they had found curtain rods or a roll of blinds in a paper bag several months later, say in the storage room by the front stairs, would anyone have reported that? Given all the other fake documents , destroyed notes, and rearranging SN etc , it’s doubtful.

If the conspirator shooter IS using the MC rifle that Oswald had been “given”?

I find it very difficult to believe that a professional marksman, contracted to assassinate the most powerful man on the planet would use Oswald's MC to do the job.
I really don't see that happening but that's just my opinion.

then this shooter did a pretty amazing job of scoring a hit on JFK on his FIRST shot which is at Z223-224.

As I've stated, it's my opinion the shooter was aiming for a head shot, ideally the centre of the head.
If that's the case then the first shot (which passed through both JFK and JBC between z222 and z223 IMO) was a miss by a good 8 - 10 inches.
The head shot struck between z312 and z313, some 4.92 (let's call it 5) seconds after the first, non-fatal, shot. It is just a massive stroke of luck that during these 5 seconds nothing happened that could prevent the head shot.
So, IMO, we have a miss then a massive stroke of luck. Not my idea of a professional, military, expert operation.

Then just to make sure that at least a couple of witness would see the rifle at the 6th floor SE window sticking out the window, the shooter fired a 3rd  shot about 2 secs AFTER 313, which was not really aimed , and hit the curb near Tague.

I, too, believe the third shot happened after the fatal head shot but I'm totally baffled as to why you would think the third shot was fired to draw attention to the rifle. I really don't get what you're reasoning might be for that. Why would a professional gunman be trying to give his position away?
The third shot is completely unnecessary and seems to me like it has an element of panic to it. I get the impression it is a wild, hurried shot that misses everything including the limo.
Again, this does not strike me as being particularly professional.
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:D :D :D
You make it all sound so professional.
Was the guy watching the gates a specially trained gate-watcher?
For the third time, please stop trying to derail this thread and take your Huge Gates nonsense to the thread I created for you because you're too lazy to do it for yourself.

   YOU asked ME several questions. Above, you ask me even another question about the "gate-watcher". I answer your questions and you then get torque'd off. You make no sense. This assassination was a professionally done job. Those Huge Gates being "wide open" was no accident. If you had read the Officer Mooney WC Testimony, you would know that there was a "civilian" on those Huge Gates. Please familiarize yourself with sworn testimony. It will minimize the egg on your face. 
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Gilberto Policarpo Lopez's estranged daughter communicated with me via this forum and by personal e-mail in 2018. She said her father was a violent man and that he was very pro-Castro. I asked her if he could whistle loudly, and she said yes, that he did it all the time when she was young.

It's known that he was hanging out at a Fair Play for Cuba joint in Tampa a few days before the assassination, "waiting for an important phone call," that he got his Mexican Tourist Card in Tampa on 11/20/63, and that he crossed into Mexico at Nuevo Laredo on 11/23/63 and registered at the Roosevelt Hotel in Mexico City at 4 PM on 11/25/63.

According to CIA reports, he was the only passenger on a Cubana Airlines plane flying to Havana from Mexico City on 11/27/63.

She sent me two photos of him by e-mail. I posted one of them on the Internet. I don't have a dropbox or whatever it's called, so I can't upload it to the forum but you can view it by googling "Gilberto Policarpo Lopez" and clicking on "Images." It's the one that's kinda sepia-colored.

IIRC, she said he sometimes bragged about the large "cargo" plane and the fact that he was its only passenger.

Was Policarpo Lopez the "Oswald" that Deputy Sheriff Roger Craig claimed to hear whistle loudly and watch run down the slope to Elm Street and hop into a Rambler station wagon driven by a dark-complected man?


Note: At the bottom of the first Google Images page it says, "The rest of the results might not be what you're looking for. See more anyway."

Click on "See more anyway" and scroll down to the sepia-colored photo of Lopez. (A tinfoil-hat conspiracy theorist evidently found it and incorporated into his post at "JFK Boards")

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This scenario seems to fall under the plausible believability scenario.
Someone could have entered.
That doesn’t mean they did.
No-one reported any strangers entering the building. Or Oswald moving about to let someone in.
Who would he have let in?
Some mafia or CIA hitman presumably.
Where’s the verification?
2+2=5
Conspiracy believers can entertain all sorts of possibilities except Oswald shooting from that window. That one is just too far fetched.

Fake films and phony autopsies? JFK's body hijacked and wounds altered? Sixty years of coverups? Witnesses killed by death teams? News media controlled the CIA? Sure, go with it. But Oswald with a rifle? Not possible.
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   The Huge "Gate" we see above is closed/ajar. If we could see the other gate, we would see the 2 gates are roughly 2 feet apart. The Three Tramps photo shows these gates to be in the same position we see above. Closed/Ajar. The Three Tramps photo was taken close to 2 hrs after the Kill Shot.

Wrong again.
In the Allen pic below we can see the space where the Huge Gates are is just a rectangular black void. There is no diamond pattern discernible meaning the gates are still "wide open".
The Hertz clock on the TSBD building reads 12:40pm.
The Huge Gates were still open at 12:40pm.





As I've already told you, I dealt with this issue years ago.
All it means is that the building was not properly locked down for at least 10 minutes after the shooting.
As I've already stated, the door on the west of the building was never locked down so anyone could come and go as they pleased through that door.
Your made up nonsense about the Huge Gates all being part of a professional plan is a joke that only you don't seem to be getting.
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   The Huge Gates open Inward. They were Not hanging outward for everyone to see. Everyone's eyes were trained down Houston St and Elm St in order to see the JFK Motorcade. People were Not looking down the Elm St Ext in anticipation of the JFK Motorcade arrival. Personally, I believe having those gates being open was Oswald's responsibility. That, and preparing the sniper's nest. Then he went to the 2nd floor lunchroom as instructed. They probably had a man on those gates to prevent a good samaritan from locking them shut.

 :D :D :D
You make it all sound so professional.
Was the guy watching the gates a specially trained gate-watcher?
For the third time, please stop trying to derail this thread and take your Huge Gates nonsense to the thread I created for you because you're too lazy to do it for yourself.
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The OP is rather silly. Tom Graves has also made it clear that his conception of America compels him to reject any and all evidence of conspiracy in JFK's death. In his mind, as he has plainly admitted, the conspiracy claim is "nation-rending."

The vast majority of those who posit a conspiracy in JFK's death originally believed in the lone-gunman theory. I am one of them. Until I began to read about the JFK case after seeing Oliver Stone's 1991 movie JFK, I assumed Oswald was the gunman and that there was nothing more to it.
Where is your evidence that the "vast majority" of conspiracy believers originally believed in the lone gunman theory? I've never seen anything remotely supporting such a claim. Where's the support for this?
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This scenario seems to fall under the plausible believability scenario.
Someone could have entered.
That doesn’t mean they did.
No-one reported any strangers entering the building. Or Oswald moving about to let someone in.
Who would he have let in?
Some mafia or CIA hitman presumably.
Where’s the verification?
2+2=5
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