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From the Litwin article..
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Gochenaur was not a direct witness to anything....
So?
Neither was Jesse Curry, Henry Wade, Ruth Paine, George or Jeanne De Mohrenschildt, Eva Grant, Robert or Marguerite Oswald or even Marina Oswald who... without her forced testimony against Lee----the Warren Commissioners would have had quite the feeble case.
  Among direct witnesses who should have been called--Hugh Aynesworth and William Alexander.
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General Discussion & Debate / Re: Dead Oswald Walking Tour: Ce399
« Last post by Joe Elliott on Today at 04:06:29 AM »
Joe Rogan says it best

If you want to argue that young and healthy people need not get vaccinated against COVID-19, you’re better off going with Joe Rogan, and not some medical expert of infectious diseases like Dr. Fauci.

If you want to argue against the SBT, you’re better off going with Joe Rogan, and not some ballistic expert like Luke Haag, Michael Haag or Larry Sturdivan. Why get the opinion about what happens to FMJ bullets from experts who run real life tests with FMJ bullets when you can get the opinion of a Joe Rogan who only has experience using hunting, that is, non-FMJ bullets.

If you want someone to argue in 2020 that Trump would be a better president than Biden, you should go with Rogan. Not with someone more reasonable.

Why can’t you get a true expert to argue against the SBT? Oh yes. I forgot. This Large-Secret-Enduring JFK Conspiracy has control of all the ballistic experts in the world.

So, yes, I agree. If you want to support nonsense, Joe Rogan is your guy. Nobody does it better.
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The Sixth Floor Museum recently added a temporary display of artifacts of the former book depository. 

From the museum’s newsletter (without images)
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SFM “Fragments”

The Sixth Floor Museum recently added a temporary display of artifacts of the former book depository. 

From the museum’s newsletter (without images)
“Fragments, the Museum’s newest special exhibition explores the history of the Texas School Book Depository Building. Most famous for being the site of the assassination of President Kennedy in November 1963, the building’s story began at the turn of the 20th century and continues today. Having served as a warehouse for plows, tractors, groceries and books, the building sat empty for years while the community wrestled with its complicated legacy. It then evolved into an administrative site for Dallas County and, finally, a museum that preserves the memory of the assassination, the legacy of President Kennedy—and their effects on the city of Dallas and the country. “
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“Functional elements, many of which have been unseen for decades, are celebrated for the beauty of their design and encourage reflection on the importance of the building’s history and preservation. The building’s history is explored through objects that were once part of the building itself. These disparate parts, fragments of a larger whole and representative of different chapters in the building’s existence, are examined on their own merits. Historic images evoke the 1910s, 1950s, 1960s, 1980s and today. Artists interpret the space and its history. The installation, made up of 33 objects, marks the passage of time from the building’s founding to its present, and by doing so, considers its future.

Fragments is on view November 3, 2021 – July 3, 2022 in the Seventh Floor Galleries. The exhibition is included with Museum admission “

I put raw photos on Google Drive and are viewable with this link:

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/192K7HlQyJv6mEujrzHnJwzkx8S9ocndI?usp=sharing
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Yes, he was there in person. I was there early when only a few people were there and got to spend a minute or two with him.

To be clear, it is only the gunman tale that was recently revealed. I believe his story about seeing LHO outside the building has been around for some time.

Did you catch where the gunman put the gun in "the back seat of the car" but meant the "trunk", I think?

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I was able to spend three days in Dealey Plaza, my first visit during the anniversary. Buell Frazier had a video recorded “conversation” with Stephen Fagin of the Sixth Floor Museum at Dealey Plaza on the 7th floor November 22. I understand the video will be placed on YouTube at some time.

Notes about Frazier’s actions after the shots – not described until published in his book “Steering Truth” (JH I bought the autographed book, but have not yet read about this event). Stephen Fagin began this next recollection by noting that Frazier had not discussed the gunman with anyone for over 50 years.

Shots reverb. Motor cycle cops shutting off/restarting bikes to create backfire.
Thought 1st shot as MC backfire, but realized later backfires were shots.

Billy Lovelady and Bill Shelley went down toward the TUP to see what happened.

Tremendous amount of people on sidewalk then, like sardines in a can.

Frazier stood on steps a short time, then decided he would try to find Lovelady and Shelley.

Out in front of this building (TSBD) used to be “angled parking” (JH probably behind the pergola).

Frazier walked to somewhere in the area of the angled parking looked up and saw a man with a rifle.

Frazier was terrified.

Man was not a policeman or detective.

Man was very well dressed high quality, down to his shoes. Shoes probably cost several hundred dollars, back then! Discussed clothing with his friend Jim Leavelle. Man’s fedora and clothing immaculate.

Man looks at him with a cold look, Frazier frightened
Put rifle in “the back seat of his car” parked at the angled parking, and then he closed the “trunk”. Man turned to open his door to get in car. Frazier turned and walked back toward the doorway.

Frazier did not stop at steps but walked to the corner of Houston/Elm.
Turned to his left, and there near the dock was LHO, walking along the side of the building. Oswald was not in a hurry, got abut 10 feet to Frazier, but turned to the crosswalk across Houston street.

Then Oswald crossed across Elm street. While about half way across Elm someone spoke to Frazier. He did not recognize the voice. From that point Frazier lost sight of Oswald.

Frazier then went down to the basement for his lunch.

Thanks James, so was Frazier there in person while you were there? Or was this just a showing of a pre-recorded one on one interview that Fagin had with Frazier?

 Does anyone else think that it is odd that Frazier was the only person who “saw” the well-dressed individual with a rifle? Even though there were dozens of people, including many law enforcement officers, who rushed to that area immediately after the shots? Even more odd is that Frazier didn’t say anything about this encounter or the sighting of LHO on Houston Street for all those years (until he wrote his book)?
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Fred, apologies for the hi-jacking of your thread.
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Yes it would. And the same goes for you.

You would be making a complete fool of yourself with BS like your claim of Callaway putting Tippit in the ambulance before making his radio call.

Too bad you will always find a way to weasel out of a face to face meeting. Your recent videos show that you love to hear yourself talk and your need to be in control of the discussion which is most likely why you want to hide behind a zoom meeting with the possibility of "technical difficulties" whenever something comes up you don't like.


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Yes it would. And the same goes for you.

The difference is I'm serious about debating you while you're doing nothing more than putting up a false front with unreasonable travel demands, etc...


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You would be making a complete fool of yourself with BS like your claim of Callaway putting Tippit in the ambulance before making his radio call.

Nah.

You just don't know how to read and correctly decipher the testimonial record combined with the police tapes; an obvious characteristic (and fault) of yours.


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Too bad you will always find a way to weasel out of a face to face meeting. Your recent videos show that you love to hear yourself talk and your need to be in control of the discussion which is most likely why you want to hide behind a zoom meeting with the possibility of "technical difficulties" whenever something comes up you don't like.

More false fronts.

I have never "weaseled out of a face to face meeting with you".  I've said close to a half dozen times now to let me know the next time you're in the States.  You know how impractical this "face to face" scenario is and therefore you count on it to make it seem like you're game, which you clearly are not.  If you were game, you'd agree to doing some sort of a debate on a podcast THIS WEEK (but everyone here knows you will not do this).

The sad part is that (for some unknown reason) you believe you're smarter than everyone else and you believe that no one else can see the false bravado you're putting up (with the "just tell me when and where" bullshit).  The reality is that everyone reading this can see through you.

The only person falling back on "technical difficulties" is you.

This is real simple.  Debate me THIS WEEK.  A host can be easily found.  You won't, though.

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Full of tacky criticism and verbose insults...I understand that is why he was removed from the ED.

Jerry,

Your "understanding" is not correct. He was removed because the "powers that be" decided that his archiving of debates on his website that he had at EF with DiEugenio and others violated forum policy even though he had been doing it for some time before anyone complained.
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David Von Pein

ROFL
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I can't quite fully understand why most conspiracy theorists just don't
look upon the Backyard Photos as being genuine (which, of course, they
are), and then utilize the "CT" philosophy that these "real" photos
have aided the "Patsy" plan after the fact (i.e., after the shots were
fired by their "look-alike Oswald" on the 6th Floor of the Book
Depository on November 22, 1963).
David Von Pein
http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/06/backyard-photos.html
Try and understand...maybe someday  :)

Let me say this. When David Von Pein was still on the Education Forum he was thanked by CTs for the resources at his site.
 Say what you want, his site is an amazing resource.
Full of tacky criticism and verbose insults...I understand that is why he was removed from the ED.

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David Von Pein

ROFL

Let me say this. When David Von Pein was still on the Education Forum he was thanked by CTs for the resources at his site. Say what you want, his site is an amazing resource.
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