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Off Topic / Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Last post by Rick Plant on Today at 11:32:56 PM »
Trump demanded military parade without wounded vets because 'it doesn’t look good for me': new book

According to yet another book about Donald Trump's four years in office, the former president was reportedly enamored with the idea of a massive military parade, but then added he didn't want to see any wounded veterans participating.

In an excerpt from “The Divider: Trump in the White House,” by Peter Baker and Susan Glasser, the New York Times noted a confrontation the former president had with his chief of staff.

According to the book, the former president was impressed after observing the Bastille Day parade in Paris and suggested to then-White House chief of staff John Kelly -- a retired U.S. Marine Corps general -- that he wanted a similar display of military force.

Baker and Glasser wrote that, after returning from his 2017 Paris trip, Trump told Kelly to see about duplicating the parade but added, "Look, I don’t want any wounded guys in the parade. This doesn’t look good for me.”

“Kelly could not believe what he was hearing,” the book reports. “‘Those are the heroes,’ he told Trump. ‘In our society, there’s only one group of people who are more heroic than they are — and they are buried over in Arlington.’”

Trump reportedly repeated, “I don’t want them. It doesn’t look good for me.”

You can read more here:

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/08/us/politics/new-book-chronicles-trumps-fraught-relationship-with-top-military-officials.html
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Off Topic / Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Last post by Rick Plant on Today at 11:28:58 PM »
This is the moment Mark Milley realized Trump had 'a screw or two loose': New Yorker exposé



According to an excerpt from Peter Baker and Susan Glasser's yet-to-be-released new book, "The Divider: Trump In The White House," Gen. Mark Milley was stunned when he found out how out of control and unreasonable former President Donald Trump was after being appointed to become the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

His moment of realization came after watching a heated conversation between House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) and Trump that led to a moment -- captured in an iconic White House photograph -- where Pelosi stood up, and pointed her finger at Trump and lectured him before leaving the briefing room.

According to the report, Pelosi reportedly told Trump, "All roads with you lead to Putin. You gave Russia Ukraine and Syria,” which led the former president to shout back, "You’re just a politician, a third-rate politician!”

After House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (D-MD) interceded and joined Pelosi in standing and stated, “This is not useful,” Trump, called after them, "We’ll see you at the polls.”

Upon her departure, Pelosi told the waiting press that Trump had had a "meltdown," which made Trump tweet out the photo of Pelosi standing over him, insisting that it was she who had flipped out, but instead was perceived by the public at large that she had stood up to him.

According to the book, while all of this played out, Milley lowered his head and stayed out of the fray, with Baker and Glasser writing, "Milley could also be seen in the photograph, his hands clenched together, his head bowed low, looking as though he wanted to sink into the floor. To Pelosi, this was a sign of inexplicable weakness, and she would later say that she never understood why Milley had not been willing to stand up to Trump at that meeting."

The report notes that Milley already had his suspicions about what he had gotten himself into after being warned by former White House chief of Staff John Kelly to stay far away from Trump.

According to the book, "That night, he [Milley] called Representative Adam Smith, a Washington Democrat and the chairman of the House Armed Services Committee, who had also been present. 'Is that the way these things normally go?' Milley asked. As Smith later put it, 'That was the moment when Milley realized that the boss might have a screw or two loose.' There had been no honeymoon. 'From pretty much his first day on the job as chairman of the Joint Chiefs,' Smith said, 'he was very much aware of the fact that there was a challenge here that was not your normal challenge with a Commander-in-Chief.'"

You can read more excerpts here:

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2022/08/15/inside-the-war-between-trump-and-his-generals
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Off Topic / Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Last post by Rick Plant on Today at 11:21:42 PM »
New toilet photos back up bombshell claims about Trump flushing documents



According to an exclusive report from Axios, photos have been obtained showing illegally shredded documents in both a White House toilet and on Air Force One during Donald Trump's administration.

In February of this year, it was reported that White House staffers revealed that the former president was tearing up documents and dumping them in White House toilets causing headaches and backed-up plumbing.

At that time, the New York Times reported, "While in office, the former president blithely flouted the Presidential Records Act, which required him to preserve written communications concerning his official duties" and added that "Trump routinely tore up documents and after leaving office brought substantial written materials back to Mar-a-Lago. A Trump spokesman didn't respond to a request for comment about the plumbing matter."

Trump pooh-poohed the report at the time and lashed out at the Times' Maggie Haberman -- and now she has produced photos backing up the reporting.


Photos from Maggie Haberman via Axios

"The revelation by Haberman, whose coverage as a New York Times White House correspondent was followed obsessively by Trump, adds a vivid new dimension to his lapses in preserving government documents. Axios was provided an exclusive first look at some of her reporting," Axios is reporting while also producing two photos that show paper fragments in the toilets that contain Trump's tell-tale writing with a Sharpie.

In one photo, New York Republican Rep. Elise Stefanik's name can be seen.

Axios adds, "Haberman — who obtained the photos recently — shared them with us ahead of the Oct. 4 publication of her book, 'Confidence Man: The Making of Donald Trump and the Breaking of America.'"

The report adds that Haberman explained, "Mr. Trump was discarding documents this way was not widely known within the West Wing, but some aides were aware of the habit, which he engaged in repeatedly. It was an extension of Trump's term-long habit of ripping up documents that were supposed to be preserved under the Presidential Records Act."

Read the exclusive story at Axios https://www.axios.com/2022/08/08/trump-toilet-photos-maggie-haberman
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Off Topic / Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Last post by Rick Plant on Today at 11:13:30 PM »
Paul Manafort admits sharing info with the Russians during 2016 Trump campaign



In an interview with Business Insider, former Donald Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort admitted he was in contact with the Russians and sharing information during the former president's 2016 presidential run.

For years, questions have been raised about Russian involvement in the campaign that saw the New York businessman beat former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, and Manafort is now stating that he handed polling data over to the Russians -- in particular to "Konstantin Kilimnik, a longtime business associate with suspected ties to Russian intelligence."

According to the report, "Kilimnik then passed the data on to Russian spies, according to the US Treasury Department, which has characterized the data as 'sensitive information on polling and campaign strategy.'"

In the interview, Manafort excused his actions stating he wasn't looking for help getting Trump elected and did it purely to make money, with Business Insider reporting, "Manafort told Insider that he directed his deputy, Rick Gates, to feed Kilimnik polling data via email to 'keep Konstantin informed.' The goal was to use his access to Trump to drum up business for himself.

https://www.businessinsider.com/paul-manafort-exclusive-interview-trump-campaign-polling-data-russia-kilimnik-2022-8
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Off Topic / Re: U.S. Politics
« Last post by Rick Plant on Today at 11:00:06 PM »
Brutal ad against Herschel Walker shows his ex-wife recounting horrific story of abuse



A new 30-second ad released by the anti-Trump Republican Accountability PAC includes footage of Republican Senate hopeful Herschel Walker’s ex-wife graphically describing him choking her and threatening to kill her during their marriage.

"Do you think you know Herschel Walker? Well, think again," the ad starts out.

The ad then shows excerpts of past interviews where Cindy DeAngelis Grossman accuses Walker of possessing "guns and knives," choking her, and holding a gun to her head.

"He held the gun to my temple and said he was gonna blow my brains out," Grossman says in the ad.

Walker had stated in the past that he suffers from a mental health condition called dissociative identity disorder, a condition that was formerly labeled as a split personality.

Watch the video below:

https://twitter.com/i/status/1556647005442789385
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Concerns as convoy-connected group establishes in Ottawa neighbourhood

The stark red banners hanging from St. Brigid’s church on Saint Patrick Street are nearly impossible to miss; the white insignia of a tree adorned with maple leaves offering neighbours little indication as to who is behind the new developments at the deconsecrated church.

The group is known as The United People of Canada, a self-described federally incorporated “not-for-profit social enterprise organization.”

Corporate documents show three members on the group’s board of directors: Kimberley Ward, William Komer, and Diane Nolan.

Social media posts show all three have close ties to the 'Freedom Convoy' occupation.

Ward has previously told CTV News she is an advisor to Tamara Lich, and gave interviews to multiple media outlets in March when Lich was originally released on bail, saying at the time “she’s happy., everybody’s happy, we did it.”

Ward and Komer can be seen in multiple photos on social media with Lich’s husband, Dwayne Lich, who has also posted significantly about the new organization, as early as this spring.

For her part, Nolan took part in the occupation, live-streaming from the downtown core several times throughout.

In one Jan. 30 livestream, Nolan appears on Parliament Hill and can be heard saying, “Wow, it’s for real. Enough is enough, we’re standing for freedom, we’re standing for what God intended for this country right from the beginning.”

Lowertown residents say they’re concerned with the group’s appearance at the church, and plans to create what TUPC calls “The Embassy;” a downtown location described by the organization’s social media as a “Forum of the People, where all voices have the opportunity to be heard, regardless of how niche the thought, opinion, expression, or belief.”

“I did hear about it being an HQ, an embassy, an office, that kind of thing. That’s the part makes me a little uncertain,” Mohamed Elmekki said.

City officials and community organizations in the area say they’ve been inundated by residents concerned about the usage of the space.

“We’ve looked online at who the group is, tried to find out what their objectives are, so we’re concerned, not terrified, but we’re in a fact finding mission right now, just trying to get a little more information,” Sylvie Bingras, President of the Lowertown Community Association said.

The building, a designated heritage site, is private property and currently listed at a sale price of $5.95 million.

In an email, Komer told CTV News the group plans to “restore and adaptively reuse surplus and under utilized institutional properties into vibrant community spaces.”

CTV News reached out to the owner of the property to inquire about the potential sale, but did not get a response by deadline.

Sources tell CTV News there has been interest from TUPC in the property.

Neighbours say they’re worried the groups connections to the Freedom movement could bring back the tensions of the convoy occupation.

“It’s not a good feeling, not good memories. It was really terrible for a lot of people,” Lise Letellier, who walks past the church almost everyday, said.

“We are still very fragile in terms of having gone through a very difficult time last February, many of our residents went through really difficult - I have sons who live in Lowertown who were harassed, intimidated,” Bingras said.

“I find myself in a very challenging position saying this is a privately owned property yet we’re here from a city point of view we have to maintain public safety and we have to be accountable and responsible to residents concern,” Rideau-Vanier councillor Mathieu Fleury said.

CTV News reached out to each of the directors of The United People of Canada for an interview but did not get a response by deadline.

In an email, Komer wrote “it is unfortunate that our social enterprise organization…has been subject to such hateful, untrue, and defamatory statements as have been circulating on social media recently."

“I find myself in a very challenging position saying this is a privately owned property yet we’re here from a city point of view we have to maintain public safety and we have to be accountable and responsible to residents concern,” Rideau-Vanier councillor Mathieu Fleury said.

CTV News reached out to each of the directors of The United People of Canada for an interview but did not get a response by deadline.

In an email, Komer wrote “it is unfortunate that our social enterprise organization…has been subject to such hateful, untrue, and defamatory statements as have been circulating on social media recently.

https://ottawa.ctvnews.ca/concerns-as-convoy-connected-group-establishes-in-ottawa-neighbourhood-1.5994659
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Off Topic / Re: Media Today
« Last post by Rick Plant on Today at 10:27:37 PM »
Olivia Newton-John, singer and actress, dead at 73

Olivia Newton-John, the Australian singer whose breathy voice and wholesome beauty made her one of the biggest pop stars of the '70s and charmed generations of viewers in the blockbuster movie "Grease," died on Monday, according to a statement from her husband. She was 73.

"Dame Olivia Newton-John passed away peacefully at her Ranch in Southern California this morning, surrounded by family and friends. We ask that everyone please respect the family's privacy during this very difficult time," her husband, John Easterling, wrote in a statement on the singer's verified Instagram account. "Olivia has been a symbol of triumphs and hope for over 30 years sharing her journey with breast cancer."

The singer revealed in September 2018 that she was treating cancer at the base of her spine. It was her third cancer diagnosis, following bouts with breast cancer in the early '90s and in 2017.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/08/entertainment/olivia-newton-john-obit/index.html
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Off Topic / Re: 1/6 Insurrection Investigation
« Last post by Rick Plant on Today at 10:23:59 PM »
Jan. 6 hearing examines Trump's 187 minutes at White House as riot unfolded | July 21

The House Jan. 6 committee conducted a public hearing Thursday to examine what former President Donald Trump was doing for 187 minutes — from when rioters descended on the Capitol to his videotaped statement urging them to go home. "The mob was accomplishing President Trump's purpose, and he did not intervene," said Rep. Adam Kinzinger, one of the committee members leading the hearing. The committee has continued to lay out evidence this summer, showing Trump encouraged his supporters to descend on the Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, after peddling false claims that the 2020 presidential election was stolen.

Watch:

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In the 1960s through a decade ago, liberals were skeptical of the government.  Particularly such institutions as the FBI and military.  Mostly due to Vietnam and Watergate.  They promoted free speech even of extreme views and were skeptical of the government (even LBJ's administration) while conservatives tended to support the status quo.  There has been a sea change in the present day.  Now the leftists are lock step with the FBI and anything espoused by left wing politicians.  There is a Stasi-like compliance to authority fueled by the media and social media propaganda.  No one dares to question what they are told.  If they do so, they are destroyed.  Stone may no longer fit easily into the same leftist mold that existed in the past.  He is a complete krank but his questioning of the government rather than blind compliance is commendable even if his conclusions are wrong.
Isn't it just simply that people tend to lose their skepticism of government (or becomes supporters of it) when they or their side is exercising that power? Conservatives were defenders of the FBI, of the military, of the national security state during the Cold War but have only recently questioned those institutions as Democrats and liberals began to control them. Hoover's FBI is now Comey's FBI and so on. When universities were suppressing radical left views conservatives tended to support that. Now it's the left suppressing views and conservatives are (rightly) upset. It's all tribal politics now.

As to Stone: But he doesn't question governments; he only questions the US (or western) governments. He's been an apologist for decades for the Castros and the Chavezs and other authoritarian governments that are hostile to the US. His rule is that if they oppose the US - or the US opposes them - then they must be defended. He really does view the US as a thoroughly corrupt country - he calls the US the "wild beast" that must be tamed. And if a government, no matter how corrupt it is, opposes the US then he'll defend it. Go watch his HBO movie on the history of the US. He believes that the Cold Was was caused solely by the US and that if we had elected Henry Wallace none of that conflict would have followed. Stalin gets a pass.

BTW, to relate this to the assassination: One of Wallace's top advisers in his presidential campaign was John Abt. Yes, that John Abt.
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General Discussion & Debate / Re: Dead Oswald Tour
« Last post by Bill Chapman on Today at 08:55:10 PM »
A shout out to Field of Dreams


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