Author Topic: Did Oswald's first shot put a hole in the floor of JFK's limo?  (Read 428 times)

Online Marjan Rynkiewicz

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There is a report that JFK's limo was found to have a hole that might have been a bullet hole when it was being worked on in Dec 1963.
I reckon that Oswald's first shot was at Z123 & it ricocheted off the arm of the signal arm & the largest lead remnant went throo the floor, making a non-round hole.  Two copper fragments CE567 CE 569 were found in the limo.
And a swarm of very small lead fragments plastered the back of JFK's head, & Kellerman said that JFK said that he had been hit, & the mysterious fragments show up in Xrays, & of course aint mysterious no more.


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Re: Did Oswald's first shot put a hole in the floor of JFK's limo?
« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2021, 03:22:36 PM »
There is a report that JFK's limo was found to have a hole that might have been a bullet hole when it was being worked on in Dec 1963.
I reckon that Oswald's first shot was at Z123 & it ricocheted off the arm of the signal arm & the larger lead fragment went throo the floor, making a non-round hole.  The 2 well known copper fragments found in the limo might have cracked the windshield next to the rear vision mirror & dented the chrome strip above the rear vizion mirror.
And a swarm of very small lead fragments plastered the back of JFK's head, & he said that he had been hit, & the mysterious fragments show up in Xrays, & of course aint mysterious no more.

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Re: Did Oswald's first shot put a hole in the floor of JFK's limo?
« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2021, 10:58:44 PM »
Go away ...... and study the case....
Which bits are u unhappy about.
The ricochet first bullet at Z123?
Or the hole in the limo?
What are your ideas -- how many shots when & by who?

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Re: Did Oswald's first shot put a hole in the floor of JFK's limo?
« Reply #4 on: March 10, 2021, 01:42:55 AM »
The pix shows a freeze frame taken at 13:25  from the Secret Service re-enactment video on youtube named -- JFK Assassination Recreation - Kennedy Reenactment - secret service warren report Ė this footage is on a site belonging to videohavoc & is 24:46 long.  It shows a limo passing under the signal arm as seen from the 6th floor window. 
I have drawn a star showing a possible aim for Oswald's first shot at say Z123 of the Zapruder film.

Actually the relevant Zapruder film sequence starts at Z133, which is about 10 ft or say 10 frames later, but i will call this freeze frame as being at Z123 anyhow.  As can be seen if the shot were a frame or two earlier then that bullet would have ricocheted off the signal arm at about the collar or rod or pipe.  The limo in the freeze frame is probly a foot or two further from the far kerb than was JFK's limo.
 
I reckon that the ricocheted bullet  fragmented.
And the main remnant lead slug made a non-round hole in the floor (shown by a star).
And it made 2 mainly copper fragments (CE567 CE569)(not shown here).
And it made a spray of small lead pieces some of which lodged in the back of JFK's head (shown by a star)(lead pieces show in Xrays).
The star on the windshield shows the pozzy of a dent (in the chrome trim) which was made by one of the 3 or 4 shots fired by Hickey's AR15 at Z313.
A crack in the windshield just left of & below the dent was made by the remnant slug that exited JFK's head from a shot from Hickey's AR15 at Z313.

JFK's limo was longer than the limo in the pix, & had jump seats, & the hole was probly in between the jump seats.  We donít know the hole's exact pozzy.  If u go to the Ford museum & have a look under the limo u might be able to see.

The fragmentation of the FMJ slug in Oswald's shot-1 is identical to the fragmentation found in replication/tests. The remnant lead slug takes a small deflexion, & typically the copper jacket breaks into 2 fragments which take a wider deflexion whilst staying close together. The tests did not include a measurement of the spray of small lead pieces, but i think that a concentrated spray mostly taking a very small deflexion angle (& hitting JFK on the back of the head) is reasonable.


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