JFK Assassination Forum

  A single "mistake"? Rather did several world wide broadcasts and consistently described the JFK Limo making the turn onto Elm St on ALL of those broadcasts. And there are other discrepancies between the Z Film that Rather watched/described and the Current Z Film. The most alarming part here is that Rather was "awarded" the Walter Cronkite Prime Time News Anchor position at CBS. Everybody doing repeated "Live' world wide broadcasts such as this use notes. Those Rather "notes" would be interesting to browse. And make no mistake. People in the news business Document everything they do.   

You really don't have a clue what you're talking about.

TG-

In general, I agree with your sentiments, that the KGB, and successor agencies, and Moscow, are not now and never have been nice guys.

Castro and G2 were both considered very dangerous in the 1960s as well, with murder ever on the agenda.

Putin's/Moscow's true colors have been revealed in Ukraine, where perhaps there are a million dead, and whole sections of the nation ravaged beyond repair, and yet Putin still will not stop. Another million dead is on the menu. The numbers have become so large they have lost meaning.

The same college kids wearing keffiyehs and screaming about Palestine appear apathetic and dunce-ified when it comes to Ukraine. There may be 20 to 30 times the carnage in Ukraine than in Gaza. Maybe more.

But who is financing social-influencer campaigns, and US academia? Putin and Tehran.

Oliver Stone is Putin puppet, and does not want to change.

James DiEugenio is using his substack to write about the USS Liberty.

It is getting ugly out there.

It's been ugly ever since 1959 when the KGB, influenced by the teachings of Sun Tzu, set up deception-based Department D in the First Chief Directorate (today's SVR) and deception-based Department 14 in the Second Chief Directorate (today's FSB), and General Gribanov in the latter, as soon as he had trapped Penkovsky "like a bear in its den," sent Polyakov to the FBI's NYC field office in November 1961 and Kulak there a month or two later to form "monster plot" CIA-controlling feedback loops with probable moles Bruce Solie and Leonard V. McCoy in the CIA.

Regardless, you may find this article from 2016 interesting.

Or maybe not.

HE WRITES ABOUT CUBANS!

https://kyleorton.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/benjamin-fischer-2016-doubles-troubles-the-cia-and-double-agents-during-the-cold-war.pdf

Page 52:

"Eleven blue borders were earmarked for three Presidents. As one newspaper reported, 'Some key officials in the CIA’s Directorate of Operations know their stuff is tainted, know it comes from agents who have been compromised, and yet put it in channels leading right to the White House.’'23 The SE/CE [formerly known as the Soviet Russia Division] Division’s senior reports officer [Robert Lubbehusen with whom probable mole Leonard V. McCoy and worked; look him up] reportedly claimed that the sources of the blue-border documents were suspect but that the information was still good."

Page 58:

"The case of Polyakov, a GRU officer, is ambiguous. A former KGB general [Sergey Kondrashev, with whom Tennent H. Bagley wrote the 2013 book, "Spymaster"] claims that he was involved in an operation to dangle Polyakov to the FBI in New York in the 1960s [November 1961]. The Bureau handed Polyakov over to the CIA after Polyakov was reposted to Rangoon], which continued meeting him intermittingly for almost 20 years during his foreign assignments. At some point, according to the ex-KGB officer, Polyakov switched sides and began cooperating with the CIA. The Soviet press reported that he was executed.56"

TG-

In general, I agree with your sentiments, that the KGB, and successor agencies, and Moscow, are not now and never have been nice guys.

Castro and G2 were both considered very dangerous in the 1960s as well, with murder ever on the agenda.

Putin's/Moscow's true colors have been revealed in Ukraine, where perhaps there are a million dead, and whole sections of the nation ravaged beyond repair, and yet Putin still will not stop. Another million dead is on the menu. The numbers have become so large they have lost meaning.

The same college kids wearing keffiyehs and screaming about Palestine appear apathetic and dunce-ified when it comes to Ukraine. There may be 20 to 30 times the carnage in Ukraine than in Gaza. Maybe more.

But who is financing social-influencer campaigns, and US academia? Putin and Tehran.

Oliver Stone is Putin puppet, and does not want to change.

James DiEugenio is using his substack to write about the USS Liberty.

It is getting ugly out there.

There is no way that Rather would have done his career "make-or-break" worldwide TV presentations without jotting down notes. Even if Rather had to scrawl bullet points while standing at the urinal or sitting on the throne. No wannabe would go "impromptu" with their future on-the-line.

Dear Sonderführer Storing,

He said they weren't allowed to take notes.

After viewing the clip only one time, he had to run several blocks to the studio, probably thinking to himself, "Oh boy, I'm going to be famous!"

He was out of breath when he went on air.

He probably didn't have time to take a you-know-what and write down some precious "bullet points" for you, but if he did, he screwed that up, too.

He had to say something.

He said the clip showed the limo turning onto Elm Street.

Big mistake.

He didn't realize that a tinfoil-hat JFKA theorist like would come along sixty-six years later and base his tinfoil-hat conspiracy theory on the false assumption that Zapruder had filmed the whole assassination.

Get over it.


-- Tom

Per Tina Towner in her book:

I believe Daddy was about to head down the hill to get another photo, but there was not enough time before the first gunshot sounded—only a second or two, if that, after I stopped filming.

If I remember correctly, her film stops about one second before Z133.

   2 seconds is a very long time. With respect to timing, how does the End of the Towner Film match up with the Robert Croft photo?