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The thread has been side tracked from "Prayer Woman" to "Haygood" ?

The Haygood "Car Park" discussion should be on a separate thread.

   I have Proven the "No Glove Cop" filmed by Darnell as he walks along the string of Passenger train cars, and then walks down/toward the Elm St Ext/TSBD is Not Officer Haygood based on these Facts: (1) The Cancellare Photo showing Officer Haygood standing atop the Triple Underpass Wearing Both Gloves, (2) There being only a 5 Minute Window between the Kill Shot and the 12:35 radio transmission Haygood made from his motorcycle parked at the (N) Elm Curb/(W) of The Steps, (3) Haygood NEVER testified or said that he walked along a string of Passenger Train Cars, helped with crowd control in the train yard, or walked toward/down the Elm St Ext/TSBD at any point during his 5 minute window, and (4) James Tague gave WC Testimony that he witnessed Officer Haygood being Back at his motorcycle at the (N) Elm St curb within 2-3 minutes after leaving it. Facts!

   Whatever film footage you are looking at that allegedly shows Haygood to be walking toward a motorcycle in the train yard, has a timeline that is outside of Haygood's "5 Minute Window". Haygood made a documented radio transmission from his motorcycle parked at the (N) Elm St Curb/ (W) of The Steps at 12:35 PM. Fact!
   

There currently is No Darnell Footage showing Haygood, "walking toward a parked motorcycle which is parked in the train yard", in the public domain. And as everyone knows, Haygood initially parked/dumped his motorcycle at the (N) Elm St curb just (W) of The Steps. Even if you do have some sort of footage showing Haygood, "walking toward a parked motorcycle which is parked in the train yard", this would be happening well after Haygood's 5 minute window which began immediately after the Kill Shot. Per his WC Testimony, Haygood had not completed his turn onto Houston St when the kill shot was fired.
  Yeah, John Martin. There are now better copies of his film. I get the feeling you are still eyeballing the old Groden Garbage.
   The Cancellare Photo of Haygood standing atop the Triple Underpass shows him Wearing BOTH Gloves. When specifically did Haygood remove 1 of his gloves as you claim?

 So you finally admit that it's Haygood in the Darnell film in the RR yard, then?   The fact is, the footage is there, and Haygood is abouut 5 feet away from it-walking toward it- when Darnell turned the camera, and shut it off just before Haygood reached it.  Everyone also knows that Haygood was in the RR yard, because he was both filmed and photographed there.  Jay Skaggs took a specific photograph of Haygood in the RR yard, so we know he was there. 

 None of the copies of the Martin film are good quality.  I have seen the "better" copies than what is the DCA and Groden copies, of course.  None of them show Clyde Haygood, specifially, walking to the TSBD on Elm Street extension.  I know he went to help search in TSBD, but if there is an officer walkin on the extension, where is your poroof that this is Haygood.

 You are the one who claims the officer walking around with a glove off isn't Haygood.  Where is your proof it isn't he?  He's filmed there, and once you see the original-if you do-or a 1st generation copy, such as is at the SFM, you will see it is, in fact Haygood, and your argument that Haygood can't be in the RR yard or captured by Darnell are bogus.

 There currently is No Darnell Footage showing Haygood, "walking toward a parked motorcycle which is parked in the train yard", in the public domain. And as everyone knows, Haygood initially parked/dumped his motorcycle at the (N) Elm St curb just (W) of The Steps. Even if you do have some sort of footage showing Haygood, "walking toward a parked motorcycle which is parked in the train yard", this would be happening well after Haygood's 5 minute window which began immediately after the Kill Shot. Per his WC Testimony, Haygood had not completed his turn onto Houston St when the kill shot was fired.
  Yeah, John Martin. There are now better copies of his film. I get the feeling you are still eyeballing the old Groden Garbage.
   The Cancellare Photo of Haygood standing atop the Triple Underpass shows him Wearing BOTH Gloves. When specifically did Haygood remove 1 of his gloves as you claim?