JFK Assassination Forum

This is the most likely scenario of the movements of Abraham Zapruder, Marilyn Sitzman, Beatrice Hester and Charles Hester, based on photos and film...

1 - Zapruder films pre-motorcade Marilyn Sitzman standing, Beatrice Hester sitting on the bench, and her husband Charles, sitting beside the bench...

2 - Zapruder and Sitzman on their pergola perch as the motorcade approaches... Beatrice standing beside the bench and her husband, Charles, sitting on the bench as the presidential motorcade passes...

3 - Zapruder and Sitzman leave their perch, Charles and Beatrice have left the bench and are now sitting on the grass...

4 - Wiegman shows Charles Hester scrambling to get up, leaving his wife, Beatrice, on the grass and darting to the wall (BTW... looking guilty as sin turning back at the last moment, as though he is depositing a gun or camera to someone on the other side of the wall, trying to get out of view of Wiegman's camera)

5 - Once off the perch, Sitzman turns back toward the pergola while Zapruder walks toward the middle of the area...
Most likely Zapruder has a few words across the way with Charles Hester who is now standing at the wall, after getting up from the grass, where he has left Beatrice...
Then Zapruder turns back toward the pergola...

6 - Zapruder walks past Sitzman, who eventually follows him into the pergola, where Zapruder gets on the walkie talkie...

7 - Beatrice Hester gets up and walks past her husband down the walkway to join Zapruder and Sitzman, and enters into the pergola... Charles lingers at the wall, but then joins the party...

8 - Darnell captures on film Charles and Beatrice looking out from the pergola, while Zapruder seems to pace, talking on his walkie talkie, eventually moving out of view...

9 - FINALLY... the most damning and convincing film image (with slight enhancements) that seems to implicate Zapruder and his fellows in the dirty deed...

Dear Jake "Eagle Eye" Maxwell,

Can't you post more of them and make them bigger, too?

-- Tom

Do you subscribe to the theory that George de Mohrenschildt, a CIA asset in 1963, was also a Soviet spy?

I stumbled across this theory while reading his Wikipedia page:

"...Ion Mihai Pacepa, a high-level defector from Communist Romania and occasional CIA asset, has alleged that de Mohrenschildt, despite his claims to be a descendant of the Russian nobility and an anti-communist political refugee from the Red Terror, was in reality a KGB First Chief Directorate illegal field agent, who focused on collecting military intelligence and who acted as Oswald's Soviet intelligence handler."


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_de_Mohrenschildt


Source:

Woolsey Jr., R. James; Pacepa, Ion Mihai (February 23, 2021). Operation Dragon: Inside the Kremlin's Secret War on America. Encounter Books. ISBN 978-1641771450. See chapters 6 and 11. The authors assert that George de Mohrenschildt, who was allegedly a PGU illegal officer that collected military intelligence, was the handler for the Oswalds who were both assets of Soviet intelligence and that Valery Kostikov, who was known to the Oswalds by the operational pseudonym "Comrade Kostin", supported the Oswalds efforts as a 13th Directorate officer that engaged in assassinations and subversive activities.

All I know is that Richard Russell, in his book about Richard Case Nagell titled The Man Who Knew Too Much, wrote that CIA Counterintelligence analyst Clare Edward Petty read some WW II VENONA decrypts in the early 1970s and came to the conclusion that DeMohrenschildt was very probably a long-term KGB "illegal."

According to Russell, the VENONA cables that Petty read referred to a Kremlin-loyal agent who was probably from Poland, emigrated to the U.S. before WW II, lived in Mexico during the war, and was a real "wheeler-dealer."

1) DeMohrenschildt was born in Mazyr, Belarus, about 300 miles from the Polish border.

2) He and his brother, Dmitri, immigrated to the U.S. in 1938.

3) He and his girlfriend, Lilia Larin, lived in Mexico for a few months during WW II.

4) He was an insurance salesman, a movie producer, a sugar and oil speculator, and he marketed his own artwork.

BUMP regarding possible Rather repeated Z Film viewing.

Given the high number of gross inaccuracies in his reporting, one would think that he only viewed it once.

Either that, or that oodles and gobs of evil, evil CIA or FBI film alterationists radically changed it to protect the evil, evil "Deep State."

Is that what you believe, Storing?

     "Prominent"? Here we go again with the verbiage interpretation stuff. The electorate showed they have No Use for this tired tactic in 2024. Like I said, "Same Old, Same Old".   

I'm on the Left. Mostly consume "Liberal media". I haven't heard or seen anyone claim the 2024 election was "rigged".

That's why I asked you to share some examples.

So, I was right -- the poor guy got to see the clip only one time.

No wonder he made so many mistakes -- like saying in so many words, "JBC was clearly shot when he was turned around, reaching towards the President."

At least his syntax, grammar and vocabulary were pretty good.

. . . . . . . . .

Here's his 5:21-long version:

We have just returned from seeing a complete motion picture of the moments immediately preceding, and the moments of, President Kennedy's assassination. The motion picture shows the limousine, carrying in the front seat two Secret Service men, in the middle or jump-seat, Governor and Mrs. John Connally of Texas, and in the rear seat President and Mrs. Kennedy, a single Secret Service man standing on the back bumper. The top of the black Lincoln convertible down. The car made a turn, a left turn, off of Houston Street onto Elm Street on the fringe of Dallas's downtown area, that turn made directly below the 6th floor window from which the assassin's bullets came. After the left turn was completed, the automobile, with only one car in front of it -- a Secret Service car immediately in front -- the President's car proceeded about 35 yards from the base of the building in which the assassin was. President Kennedy and Governor Connally were seated on the same side of the open car, the side facing the building; Mrs. Kennedy and Mrs. Connally on the side opposite the assassin. President Kennedy is clearly shown to put his right hand up to the side of his face, as if to either brush back his hair or perhaps rub his eyebrow. Mrs. Kennedy at that instant is looking away, that is not looking at the president. At almost that instant, when the President has his hand up to the side of his face, he lurches forward -- something in this manner.  The first shot had hit him. Mrs. Kennedy appeared not to notice. Governor Connally, in the seat right in front of the President -- and by the way, the Governor had his suit coat open –- his suit was not buttoned -- perhaps either heard the shot or somehow he knew that something was wrong because the picture shows just after that first shot hit the President, the Governor turned in something this manner with his right arm outstretched back towards the President as if to say “what's wrong” or “what happened,” or to say something, and exposed the entire white front shirt of the Governor to the full view of the assassin’s window, and as the Governor was in this position and President Kennedy, behind him, was slumped slightly over, a shot clearly hit the front of Governor Connally and the Governor fell back, over towards his wife. Mrs. Connally immediately put herself over her husband in a protective position, and as she did so, in the back seat this time with Mrs. Kennedy's eyes apparently [unintelligible], the second shot -- the third shot in all -- the second shot hit the President's head. His head went forward in a violent motion, pushing it down like this. Mrs. Kennedy was on her feet immediately. The President fell over in this direction. It appeared that his head probably brushed or hit against Mrs. Kennedy's legs. The First Lady almost immediately tried to crawl on, and did crawl onto, the trunk of the car, face-down, her whole body almost was on that trunk in something (sic) that all fours position. She appeared to desperately be trying to get the attention of the Secret Service man on the back bumper, or perhaps she was stretching out toward him to grab him, try to get him in, or perhaps even to get herself out of the car. The car was moving all the time; the car never stopped. The Secret Service man on the back bumper leaned way over and put his hands on Mrs. Kennedy's shoulders. She appeared to be in some danger of falling or rolling off that trunk lid. He pushed her into the back seat of the car. In the front seat a Secret Service man with a phone in his hand. The car speeded it up and sped away. It never stopped; it never paused. That's what the film of the assassination showed. The film was taken by an amateur photographer who had placed himself in an advantageous position. Eight-millimeter color film. This is Dan Rather in Dallas.

   BUMP regarding possible Rather repeated Z Film viewing.