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Axios: CIA admits shadowy officer monitored Oswald before JFK assassination, new records reveal
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For the first time since President Kennedy's assassination nearly 62 years ago, the CIA has tacitly admitted that an officer specializing in psychological warfare ran an operation that came into contact with Lee Harvey Oswald before the Dallas killing.

Why it matters: The disclosure Thursday — nestled in a batch of 40 documents concerning officer George Joannides — indicates the CIA lied for decades about his role in the Kennedy case before and after the assassination, according to experts on JFK's slaying.

The linchpin document: A Jan. 17, 1963, CIA memo showing Joannides was directed to have an alias and fake driver's license bearing the name "Howard Gebler."

Until Thursday, the agency had denied that Joannides was known as "Howard," the case officer name for the CIA contact who worked with activists from an anti-communist group opposed to Cuban dictator Fidel Castro called the Cuban Student Directorate.

For decades, the agency also falsely said it had nothing to do with the student group, which was instrumental in having Oswald's pro-Castro stances published soon after the shooting.

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Zoom out: The new documents don't shed any additional light on Kennedy's shooting or settle the controversy over whether Oswald acted alone. Nor is there any evidence showing why the CIA covered up Joannides' ties to DRE.

All the records disclosed so far show how the CIA lied about financing or being involved with DRE. That includes the agency's interactions with the Warren Commission (1964), the Church Committee (1975), the House Select Committee on Assassinations (1977-78) and the Assassination Review Board (until 1998).

The intrigue: Joannides didn't just have knowledge of Oswald before the assassination — afterward he played a central role in deceiving the House Select Committee on Assassinations.

At the time, the CIA appointed Joannides to be its liaison with the committee. But he and the agency hid the fact that he was involved with DRE and therefore the Kennedy case, slow-walked the CIA's production of records, and lied.

The committee's chief counsel, Robert Blakey, testified in 2014 that he asked Joannides about "Howard" and DRE, and that "Joannides assured me that they could find no record of any such officer assigned to DRE, but that he would keep looking," Blakey said.

A former committee investigator, Dan Hardway, testified before a House Oversight committee last month that Joannides was running a "covert operation" to undermine the congressional probe into the assassination.

Two years after stonewalling the committee, Joannides was awarded the Career Intelligence Medal by the CIA in 1981. He died in 1990.



Link - https://www.axios.com/2025/07/05/cia-agent-oswald-kennedy-assassination


This new revelation doesn't prove the CIA was involved with the JFK assassination. At worst, it proves that they lied in order to cover up an operation in 1963 which directly or indirectly involved Lee Harvey Oswald.

The innocent speculation is that Oswald's fake Fair Play for Cuba chapter in New Orleans in 1963 and his public confrontation with Cuban exiles was part of an operation which was unrelated to the JFK assassination. Perhaps the CIA covered this stuff up due to embarrassment over being associated with the President's assassin.

The more conspiratorial speculation is that Oswald was unwittingly being framed as a devout Cuba/Castro supporter in the weeks leading up to November 22, 1963. Joannides was the case officer for the Cubans that Oswald interacted with and was later confronted by in New Orleans. The same group of Cubans published press releases in 1963 linking Castro to the JFK assassination via Oswald.

Kudos to Jefferson Morley for finally getting more of the Joannides documents de-classified.

Questions for the LN'ers on the board:

- If the CIA didn't assign Joannides to be the liaison for the HSCA for the purpose of obstruction, what's the innocent explanation? Of all the employees they could've given that job to, they brought Joannides out of retirement for what other reason?

- Why has the CIA waited more than 30 years since Joannides' death to confirm his role in running the DRE group?
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Re: CIA admits George Joannides role with DRE before JFK assassination
« Reply #1 on: July 07, 2025, 08:36:01 AM »
Axios: CIA admits shadowy officer monitored Oswald before JFK assassination, new records reveal


Link - https://www.axios.com/2025/07/05/cia-agent-oswald-kennedy-assassination


This new revelation doesn't prove the CIA was involved with the JFK assassination. At worst, it proves that they lied in order to cover up an operation in 1963 which directly or indirectly involved Lee Harvey Oswald.

The innocent speculation is that Oswald's fake Fair Play for Cuba chapter in New Orleans in 1963 and his public confrontation with Cuban exiles was part of an operation which was unrelated to the JFK assassination. Perhaps the CIA covered this stuff up due to embarrassment over being associated with the President's assassin.

The more conspiratorial speculation is that Oswald was unwittingly being framed as a devout Cuba/Castro supporter in the weeks leading up to November 22, 1963. Joannides was the case officer for the Cubans that Oswald interacted with and was later confronted by in New Orleans. The same group of Cubans published press releases in 1963 linking Castro to the JFK assassination via Oswald.

Kudos to Jefferson Morley for finally getting more of the Joannides documents de-classified.

Questions for the LN'ers on the board:

- If the CIA didn't assign Joannides to be the liaison for the HSCA for the purpose of obstruction, what's the innocent explanation? Of all the employees they could've given that job to, they brought Joannides out of retirement for what other reason?

- Why has the CIA waited more than 30 years since Joannides' death to confirm his role in running the DRE group?

Haven't you read W. Tracy Parnell's thoughts on the Axios article?

https://wtracyparnell.blogspot.com/search/label/Jefferson%20Morley

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Re: CIA admits George Joannides role with DRE before JFK assassination
« Reply #2 on: July 07, 2025, 11:26:11 AM »
Haven't you read W. Tracy Parnell's thoughts on the Axios article?

https://wtracyparnell.blogspot.com/search/label/Jefferson%20Morley

We're back to strawman arguments I see.

No one is suggesting that this new information is a "Smoking Gun". At worst, it proves that the CIA lied and obstructed investigations into their role in running the DRE operation.

In a healthy Democracy, citizens should be outraged to learn that a government agency lied and obstructed justice in a matter related to the murder of a head of state.

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Re: CIA admits George Joannides role with DRE before JFK assassination
« Reply #3 on: July 07, 2025, 07:03:25 PM »
We're back to strawman arguments I see.

No one is suggesting that this new information is a "Smoking Gun". At worst, it proves that the CIA lied and obstructed investigations into their role in running the DRE operation.

In a healthy Democracy, citizens should be outraged to learn that a government agency lied and obstructed justice in a matter related to the murder of a head of state.

The "smoking gun" refers to Morley's 2022 claim that has mow been debunked. He said the 44 documents (now released) would prove an "Oswald Operation." They do not.

This article tries to clear up a few things:

https://wtracyparnell.blogspot.com/2025/07/morley-and-followers-revel-in.html

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« Reply #4 on: July 07, 2025, 07:45:26 PM »
The "smoking gun" refers to Morley's 2022 claim that has mow been debunked. He said the 44 documents (now released) would prove an "Oswald Operation." They do not.

This article tries to clear up a few things:

https://wtracyparnell.blogspot.com/2025/07/morley-and-followers-revel-in.html

If you want me to give your blog clicks, first take a stab at my questions:

Questions for the LN'ers on the board:

- If the CIA didn't assign Joannides to be the liaison for the HSCA for the purpose of obstruction, what's the innocent explanation? Of all the employees they could've given that job to, they brought Joannides out of retirement for what other reason?

- Why has the CIA waited more than 30 years since Joannides' death to confirm his role in running the DRE group?

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Re: CIA admits George Joannides role with DRE before JFK assassination
« Reply #5 on: July 07, 2025, 08:45:28 PM »
If you want me to give your blog clicks, first take a stab at my questions:

Questions for the LN'ers on the board:

- If the CIA didn't assign Joannides to be the liaison for the HSCA for the purpose of obstruction, what's the innocent explanation? Of all the employees they could've given that job to, they brought Joannides out of retirement for what other reason?

- Why has the CIA waited more than 30 years since Joannides' death to confirm his role in running the DRE group?

One explanation for your first question is that Joannides may not have been brought out of retirement at all.  Several researchers are looking into this as we speak. Morley stated this many years ago and everyone accepted it. But now we have found out that Joannides was working for East Asia division just before he took the HSCA assignment. An alternative explanation for assigning him to the HSCA job was simply that Breckinridge (his boss) assumed he would be good at it.

The CIA did not wait 30 years after Joannides' death to confirm his role in running the group. Indeed, they supplied documents to ARRB researcher Michelle Combs in the late nineties that not only showed Joannides ran the group but also that his registered CIA pseudonym was Walter Newby. What has taken many years is the release of documents showing Joannides was "Howard." The reason for this is unclear.
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« Reply #6 on: July 14, 2025, 02:06:27 PM »
Washington Post: The CIA reveals more of its connections to Lee Harvey Oswald
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Documents from Joannides’ CIA personnel file were released earlier this month showing he had obtained a phony D.C. driver’s license. The name on it: “Howard Mark Gebler.”

“This confirms much of what the public already speculated: that the CIA was lying to the American people, and that there was a cover-up,” Luna said in an email.

The documents also show the CIA gave Joannides a career commendation medal in 1981 in part for his handling of the Cuban group and also for his role as a liaison to the House assassinations committee, in which researchers have said that Joannides stonewalled them when they dug deeper into CIA files. The commendation noted his assignment as “Deputy Chief of the Psychological Warfare Branch” in Miami in 1962, and said “He did particularly well with the handling of exile student and teacher groups.”

Staff members for the committee have said they were making progress on unearthing documents from the CIA in 1978 until a new agency liaison was installed: Joannides, whom they had no idea was at the center of what they were trying to uncover.

“Joannides began to change the way file access was handled,” committee staff member Dan Hardway testified before Luna’s task force in May. “The obstruction of our efforts by Joannides escalated over the summer [of 1978]. … It was clear that CIA had begun to carefully review files before delivering them to us for review.”


After the movie “JFK” launched new questions about the slaying, Congress in 1994 created the Assassinations Records Review Board, which again tried to recover key documents from federal agencies, and again probed the CIA. The CIA responded with its memo about “Howard,” saying he didn’t exist.

“My memo was incorrect,” said J. Barry Harrelson, a former CIA official who wrote the memo. “But this wasn’t deliberate.” He said he wasn’t provided Joannides’s personnel file, but that it was provided to the review board. Morley said the review board received the file, but seeing no references to Oswald, didn’t realize its relevance. Harrelson said the release of the D.C. driver’s license notes was “the first time I’d seen it.”


“It’s a breakthrough, and there’s more to come,” said Jefferson Morley, a longtime JFK researcher and former Washington Post reporter, who first sued the CIA for their assassination files in 2003. “The burden of proof has shifted. There’s a story here that’s been hidden and avoided, and now it needs to be explored. It’s up to the government to explain.”

There is no indication in any of the files that the CIA was involved in the assassination of Kennedy, which the Warren Commission declared in 1964 was the work of Oswald as a lone gunman. The House in 1976 launched a select committee to investigate the assassinations of Kennedy and Martin Luther King Jr., and concluded that Oswald worked as part of a “probable conspiracy,” but they could not determine who else was in the conspiracy.

Harrelson’s memo also noted that progress reports on Joannides’s Miami operation were missing for the 17 months he was there, which Morley said was another indicator that the anti-Castro program was secret even within the CIA.


The search for Howard began in the 1990s when Morley interviewed members of the Cuban group DRE, short for Directorio Revolucionario Estudiantil, or Student Revolutionary Directorate. Among them was Jose Antonio Lanuza, now 86, who told The Post that “Howard” dealt only with the DRE’s leader, Luis Fernandez Rocha, and Rocha would pass on direction from “Howard.”

Previously released records show that the CIA had begun reading Oswald’s mail in 1959, when he defected to the Soviet Union, a move that attracted American media attention. Oswald returned to the U.S. in 1962 with a new wife and daughter in tow and settled in Dallas. Morley has found that the CIA continued to monitor Oswald.

“At least 35 CIA employees handled reports on Oswald between 1959 and 1963,” Morley said, “including a half dozen officers who reported personally to [counterintelligence chief James] Angleton or deputy director Richard Helms.” The files included State Department and FBI reports about his defection and his activities with the Fair Play for Cuba Committee, a pro-Castro group in the U.S. for which he launched a one-man chapter in New Orleans in August 1963.

Link - https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2025/07/14/cia-oswald-jfk-assassination-joannides/

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You ask a lot of good questions Jon - unfortunately you don't really want them answered.  Any answer to these questions can only be found at skin level.  Its like a bad rash and you should accept it.  You have to go a whole forbidden level deeper to understand what the un-elected body controlling the politicians and these actors are doing.   Some would call it a deep state....at any rate it is an un-elected body of elites which have money to control others and rule over the people by constantly changing the game and substituting old ones with new ones.  People forget the old and move on to the newer conspiracies - duck and cover!

5 deep things to question:

1) Time is a great way to obfuscate justice and keep anyone from going to jail at anytime for wrongdoing.   When was the last time you saw someone in the echelons of power get thrown into jail for anything?  Taxpayer just keeps on footing the bigger and bigger bill, 2008 financial crisis  - taxpayer bailed it!  Where did the money go?
 
2) Is there really such a thing as democracy or is it a manipulation that you are oblivious to?  Within families, Bush Sr. and Jr. get elected, Jed almost!  It almost happened with the Clinton's too!  The same families always seem to be at the center of all these debacles which are occurring more and more often.

3) MSM has been complicit in issuing stories which are not investigating but rather voicing their journalistic opinions according to higher powers and providing the narrative as unquestionable facts?   Who has infiltrated them?   Are they merely all good journalists and lawyers with honourable motives?   They all seem to march in one accord and with different voices.  Who writes their scripts when they all come up with the same unquestioned authoritative opinions?

4) Following the money.   Who was making money from 2020 on?   Who was losing money?  Has the landscape changed in anyway?  Do we still have a middle class?
 
5   Seeing who gets pardoned is a last alternative when you have run out of other options and the truth can't stand on its own legs anymore.  A couple of examples.  Fauci gets a pardon....what did he do wrong that has to be avoided in the court of public opinion?  Hunter and the Biden syndicate is another?   How can 51 intelligent agents sign off and say that Hunter Biden's laptop was Russian disinformation.  They had the laptop for a whole year - time just keeps on slipping into the future!  Oh well!!!  "Just forget about it and move on will you!"    Epstein another- forget that one!

You see I can ask a lot of good questions - I don't have the answers.  It does appear below the surface to all lead to the same conspiracies and the need for the rich to get richer.  When corruption gets too bad, you have very few options when the people don't believe your lies anymore and you have gotten yourself in so deep that can't get yourself out without telling another.   
The most modern one we have now.  The climate has always been changing - why do think archaeologists are digging out cities from 2000 years ago that have been buried in dust and dirt.  Greenland had farmers at one time!  It wasn't always made of ice.   That wasn't that long ago! 

You know there is a problem when wind turbines and solar panels have to be given taxpayer money because they fail to be viable on their own accord.   People are farming the grants associated with them and waiting for new ones to be handed out by the government before they do anything.  They pollute the earth and actual use more fossil fuel to make than they give back in energy terms.  It is a good thing though to leave 7 year old depleted heavy mineral batteries or used out solar panels to rot out on the earth.  Nuclear is bad too!  That lasts way too long!

So for me it boils down to this:  If anyone has to lie and constantly gets caught lying, they are not telling the truth because they just can't stop.   You would totally lose faith in their system of perpetual nirvana if they admitted anything.   Whether you talk MK Ultra, PsyOps or Orwellian, they all have one thing in common purpose.  They are useful tools which keep people confused, under their control, scared and in panic mode.  The people are oblivious to what is really happening around them.  Lock downs, 15 minute cities, battery powered vehicles, blackouts will demobilize the people and keep them in submission.

For me,  LHO is merely the first perfect example of someone being Psy-op'd to become the perfect patsy - scapegoat if you like!   Did he know it?  Absolutely not.  He was only given information on a need to know basis.  The thought never occurred to him until it was too late and he was arrested.   He was enjoying himself as a Bourne or James Bond type character and an under cover agent.  His mind was manipulated.  Remember military training and a little help later!  "The military aims to transform individuals, stripping away civilian habits to mold them into disciplined and effective members of a cohesive fighting force, but the process can also lead to lasting psychological and emotional challenges for some."

He gave up his passport, then got it back - no problem.   He was playing in the big leagues.  'You' try defect and see if someone will welcome 'You' back without a court martial!  He had lots of money or at least kept fluent enough to play an innocent yet unbeknownst to him a dangerous game.  No doubt he was assessed and analyzed to be the right profile to be utilized.  He moved right from the ranks of military to where his station in life led him when he died.  I am sure even when he went to Russia, he was thinking he was a double agent and part of a secret covert operation.  I have no other logical explanation other than the fact that he was sucked in and his character was gullible to it and someone above him used him.   

He likely was given his job in the TSBD, otherwise  explain how he got there after all his escapades, handing out Cuban leaflets, being anti-American and so on!   Agitating and being in the media limelight was likely something that played on his ego and he didn't mind doing the gig for his handlers.  It was a perfect setup and he got paid too!     He always had enough so obviously his handlers were taking care of his needs.  We were never sure of how he financed all his trips and excursions and hotel stays!   Jack Ruby was another useful - shouldn't say it but idiot!  With his deed, he was heralded by the media as a great patriot for bringing swift justice to LHO.  He was not a nightclub owner and part of the mafia - nope he was just a good ole boy doing his duty for his country!

The web of conspiracy is of unfathomable proportion these days and it can no longer all be chalked up to Murphy's Law!   Robert Mueller, 911 and then Russiagate,  Comey, his daughter Maurene and others like those on Epstein's blackmail list (perhaps!) will never have to face judgment as things will be hid for another 50 years.  These people will be committed to distant memory after enjoying the rest of their lives and never indicted for a solitary thing that they did!  After all, they haven't done anything wrong anyways!   They are just following orders! 

Well....Aren't they?



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