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1. As the Limo turns into Houston the Limo is in the sight for a fraction of a second and recentering after a miss is a pain in the ass.
2. As the Limo travels further down Houston and gets closer to the TSBD, the time for a shot gets progressively less.
3. When the Limo is passing directly by the TSBD, the increased angular velocity is at it's maximum so you can completely forget about the "closest" shot.
4. Which leaves us with the shot as the Limo travels down Elm being the easiest simply because of the incline and the direction of the Limo means that at this angle the Limo stays in the sights the longest and if Oswald misses reacquiring the target is much easier. It's all just simple physics.



JohnM

That's an interesting animation. Where did you get it? My only criticism is it shows the scope stationary. Oswald would have been tracking his target as soon as it turned onto Elm if not before. I doubt his scope was stationary at any time.
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   What are you basing, ".....almost 4 seconds between the first and second shots and almost 5 seconds between the second and third shots"?  That's "almost" 10 seconds. That's a very long time and should have/would have attracted "eyeballs" from assorted Dealey Plaza positions toward the sniper's nest. According to Amos Euins, this did Not happen.     "POW..............POW/POW"!

It wasn't until JFK's hands went up in front of his throat that most people in DP began to realize what was happening. Some appeared not to have noticed the first shot and if they did, many thought it was a firecracker. It's not surprising that most people did not locate the shooter in time to see shots fired. Even if they did, why would that be of any concern to Oswald. Even if people saw him, what could they do to stop him.
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: U.S. Politics
« Last post by John Corbett on Yesterday at 01:42:33 PM »
President Trump has played an estimated 261 rounds of golf while President. About 50 times a year.

50 times a year is only once a week. Did you have a problem with Obama playing golf? Or Clinton.

https://thegolfnewsnet.com/ryan_ballengee/2024/04/20/how-many-rounds-president-barack-obama-play-golf-office-103838/
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Why is it necessary to build a Golden Ballroom, that dwarfs the White House, so he can be safe, what 4 times a year? 8 times a year? While attending a ball.


The ballroom will allow future presidents to host state dinners and other large events in a proper venue. The current ballroom inside the White House is a dump compared with the venues our presidents visit when they are being hosted by other countries. It's all about making impressions on foreign leaders.
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While Trump continues, 50 times a year, going around a golf course?

Your TDS is obvious. Obama played over 40 times a year and nobody cared. A symptom of TDS is that a person will find fault with anything and everything Trump says or does.
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Protection at a Washington Hotel is a piece of cake compared to protection at a golf course. At a hotel, metal protectors can be set up. There can be several layers of protections set up. The President is not constantly moving out in the open where protection has to be constantly moving with him.

There have been 2 attempted presidential assassinations at the Washington Hilton. Only one on a golf course even though our presidents go to golf courses a lot more often than they go to the Washington Hilton.
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The only reason a gunman did not get off a rifle shot at Trump in the summer of 2024 was because the gunman left his rifle laying against a fence in full view. Without that, the protection was not several layers of protection, but one Secret Service Agent travelling ahead of the President and alertly spotting the rifle. Minimum precautions would have foiled the efforts of a dozen Secret Service agents.

Trump was not president at the time and the Secret Service under Biden showed a willful indifference to Trump's safety. Their performance during the Butler assassination was appallingly incompetent. The problem is not presidents playing golf. The problem was not having a Secret Service that took their job seriously enough.

Ever since Oswald shot JFK, it has been a top priority of the Secret Service to guard elevated positions within rifle range of the president. Yet the Secret Service in Butler allowed a gunman within 140 yards of Trump to gain access to an elevated position. The head of the Secret Service lost her job over that, as she should have, but more heads should have rolled.
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A comparison of the height of Bell's camera in the Bell frames versus today's google street view i think suggests that Bell
was not standing in the peristyle, more likely he was standing lower, eg in the garden bed below the peristyle (ie having jumped down).
Standing in the garden, Bell's camera would have been level with the concrete barricade here (based on other photos that i saw),
which would be say 3 ft lower than when standing inside the barrier (not a lot of difference).









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In this printscreen that i made of a youtube of the Bell footage
 we can see the top say 30 inches of Officer Murphy
(standing on the eastern side of the Stemmons overpass)(hi up on his 3-wheeler).
Our view of him is mostly blocked by the overhead signs.
The JFK limo will pass under him in about 10 sec as it enters the Stemmons on-ramp.
We know its Murphy koz that dark lump duznt appear in early frames, & is seen in later frames.
Murphy appears to be very high up. I am fairly certain that there aint any high curb for him to stand on.
I suspect that he heard the shooting & sirens & he stood high up on his 3-wheeler.

Murphy heard Oswald's shot-1 at 0.8 sec after Z113, then Oswald's shot-2 5.7 sec later at Z218, then Hickey's shots-123456 5.0 sec later at Z313.
It calculates to 5.2 sec but i had to deduct 0.2 sec koz of the diff in travel times for the sound of shots by Oswald who is further away than Hickey.
Murphy wasn't visible in Bell's footage when JFK's limo was half in shade entering the triple underpass at Z468.
And then Murphy was fully up & visible at Z470 when the limo was 3/4 in shade.
Z313 to Z468 is 55 frames ie 3.0 sec, hence Murphy reacted to the final shots in 2.5 sec (allowing 0.5 sec for the speed of sound).
Yes, Murphy didnt react to Óswald's shots, but Hickey's auto burst finally did the trick.

We can see say 2.5 ft of Murphy over the signage, & the signage is 61 yd away from him, which is 1/5th
of the distance to Bell (308 yd), hence that 2.5 ft gains him say 12.5 ft of extra vertical vision at Bell, but Bell is standing in the peristyle, or in the garden bed in front of the peristyle,
& that 12.5 ft has to be measured down from the level of Bell's camera.




Actually, Robin Unger's gallery of Bell's footage has 56/208 which shows Murphy high up over the signage.
In my other thread i show that one of Robin's frames shows that later Murphy moves to the western barrier after JFK & Co have passed.


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I reckon that Bell took footage from 3 locations, shown by the stars.
I triangulated various features in various frames.
1. Here Bell is on a pedestal at the North Peristyle (as seen in the photo). [edit][see reply #13][bell was actually on the eastern end of the pedestal wall]
2. Bell jumps down, & then climbs down onto the raised garden bed to (2).
Bell isn’t seen at (2) in Bronson's photo or film koz Bell is late, or praps he is hidden by the peristyle.
I doubt that Bell's pozzy (2) was in the peristyle. I prefer that he was down in the garden.
3. Bell crosses to the south of Main St.
In the Daniel footage (Robin Unger gallery Daniel 47/180) we can briefly see someone who is too far south (right) to be Bell, & too near to be Bell, & too soon to be Bell.
And the area in the garden bed is very dark, possibly shaded by a tree, hence Bell could be there but not vizible.

Bell's footage has lots of stops/starts, & lots of blurred fast panning, & times when he changes lens.
And its all made more confusing koz i think that some youtubes have mixed up the sequences.

After Bell crosses to the south of Main St, (i think) we can see Bell in Underwood's footage (it has been said that it is not Darnell's footage) [edit 1Oct2021][James advises that the footage is probly Darnell] taken a long time after Bell has stopped filming at (3).
Bell is one of the 2 figures – i think he is the figure on the left, nearer Main St.
So, Bell hung around for a while.
Hmmmm -- i have changed my mind -- i think Bell is the figure on the right -- the figure on the left might be the big guy that was up on the pedestal with Bell at (1).

James Hackerott.
I was looking for a film clip taken from the top of the knoll four to five minutes after the assassination. Some researchers assign it to Darnell, but it was not in Darnell, or Couch either. I'm thinking it probably was filmed by Jim Underwood after he filmed and followed the crowd climbing the knoll steps.

[edit 1Oct2021][James advises that the footage is probly Darnell]

4. Later, Bell took some footage of Dealey Plaza from his workplace (an upper floor of the postal building south of Commerce St)(not shown here).










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Here is a giff i found on this forum -- i forget where, & who.
It shows Hoffman's Falcon in a Bell early sequence.
I could make a giff of Hoffman's Falcon stopping in Bell's much later sequence, but there are only about 4 frames, mostly blurry, not worth it.


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Using a similar logic, if the wind as seen in the following GIF was blowing up Elm street, no doubt being funnelled through the triple underpass, so how would the gunpowder smoke drift onto the road right next to the grassy knoll, if indeed your frontal sniper was behind the fence of the grassy knoll?



Taking this concept to its logical conclusion, the following diagram is my estimate of smoke dispersion from the theoretical position of the grassy knoll gunman who allegedly, according to flawed analysis by the HSCA audio "experts", fired one shot that missed. It would be interesting to know how dissipated the gun smoke from a single shot would be in the strong breeze, by the time it reached the sniffwitnesses?



The amount of smoke from a Carcano isn't very much and a modern firearm produces not much either.







Perhaps the Grassy Knoll assassin was using a Musket?



JohnM

Your photos illustrate perfectly why if there had been a gunman on the GK, nobody would have seen smoke from that rifle. In the short clip showing a rifleman firing during a test, the smoke dissipates almost immediately. Nobody on the over pass could have seen smoke from a rifle fired from the GK. I don't know what they saw or what they thought they say it wasn't gun smoke unless the GK shooter was firing a muzzle loader or a blunderbuss.
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 You said, "... smelled gunpowder as they were GOING PASSED the GK". The wind would Not permit a "drifting" gunpowder odor from the TSBD to the GK.

The gunpowder residue would have been forcefully ejected from the muzzle of Oswald's rifle and could have drifted anywhere. Tell us why you think that residue could have drifted from the GK down to Elm St. but not the sniper's nest down to Elm St.
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Here are 2 gifs of the Bell footage.
Robin Unger's gif(s) (see OP) might have better quality frames than my gifs.

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