JFK Assassination Forum

I find it quite a bit more compelling than a missed first shot for which there are not only zero witnesses

Simply not true.

but over 80 witnesses who say it didn't happen.

Do you think by exaggerating the split of witnesses you make your argument more compelling. It's not working.

You will never find a real case where this has occurred.

I've already pointed out to you the large number of witnesses who said the shots came from the GK and were dead wrong.

(And I am not even talking about the improbability of someone deciding to shoot when the target is moving across the field of view after piling boxes for a shot down the street and then missing not only the target but the entire 7 by 21 foot car at 160 feet;  and I will overlook the complete absence of a mark in whatever it was supposed to have hit.)

Why would anyone have looked for a mark in the street when for months after the shooting it was believed all three shots struck inside the limo. If you want to talk about missing evidence, explain why only two bullets were recovered if three struck inside the limo.

. On the off-chance you  might want to view the discussion of the second shot, it begins at around the 33 minute mark:

You're citing a witness who only heard 2 of the 3 shots to make your point. You are getting desperate. To make matters worse, Gary Mack mistakenly states the WC concluded the first shot hit both JFK and JBC and the second shot missed. Why do you rely on clueless people to make your points?

The bullet entered at the edge of the right scapula which is the rear border of the armpit and passed throught the fifth rib at the middle of the armpit.  Explain how that happened if he wasn't turned sharply right as Nellie, Gayle Newman and 47 earwitnesses said he was.

JBC was turned to he right. That's never been in dispute.

And still you offer no illustration that shows how it was even possible for JBC to be shot in the back by Oswald at Z271. The impossibility of that alone destroys your entire premise. Unless and until you can do that, you are just blowing smoke.

The woman in the white scarf turns her head to the right.

   ALEX & ROBIN - Thanks for making this "original scan" of the Wiegman Film available to ALL of us. As the better copies of the Wiegman Film make more and more obvious, there is NO CAR parked alongside the Island in the, "NO PARKING At Any Time" zone near the corner of the Elm St Extension and Elm St. Not Yet!

So Royell, let me get this straight, your missing Wiegman car that was seen about 15 minutes later in Hughes was a getaway car that didn't getaway? Is that right?
Wouldn't a getaway car be prepared and be waiting in advance and considering the Limo was running about 15 minutes late, doesn't that disqualify your entire theory?
If indeed the car did arrive just after Wiegman filmed, couldn't that just be someone who was late to see the parade and simply hung around with the all the other people who were checking out Dealey Plaza and were investigating what happened?
Or do you just have a problem with illegal parking and want to know if the guy/girl got booked for parking in a "NO PARKING At Any Time" zone? LOL!




JohnM

Even more evidence.

Here's a recreation of Z222 with the Queen Mary(which was a mistake) and at first I thought this makes the SBF kind of impossible because Connally is obviously too high but thankfully they took two photos and the other was from Zapruder's position and when you compare Zapruder's view with the recreation view it's clear that in the actual Limo, the jump seat is much lower which makes the SBF a no brainer!





JohnM

A whole lot of so-and-so-said evidence which is all you've got. It's not at all compelling.Now you have to make excuses for why one of your witnesses got it so wrong. In what universe is a 2 second difference almost simultaneous.

I find it quite a bit more compelling than a missed first shot for which there are not only zero witnesses but over 80 witnesses who say it didn't happen.  You will never find a real case where this has occurred.( And I am not even talking about the improbability of someone deciding to shoot when the target is moving across the field of view after piling boxes for a shot down the street and then missing not only the target but the entire 7 by 21 foot car at 160 feet;  and I will overlook the complete absence of a mark in whatever it was supposed to have hit.)

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The other agents were wrong. Being a SS agent doesn't endow somebody with super powers of perception. They are as prone to error as any other witness.Suggest all you want.

On the off-chance you  might want to view the discussion of the second shot, it begins at around the 33 minute mark:

I did. There's no way for someone I was facing could shoot me in the back. That shoots down your silly theory of JBC being shot at Z271.

The bullet entered at the edge of the right scapula which is the rear border of the armpit and passed throught the fifth rib at the middle of the armpit.  Explain how that happened if he wasn't turned sharply right as Nellie, Gayle Newman and 47 earwitnesses said he was.