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It had to be an entrance wound because the back wound had no exit point, because the back wound was too low to have exited the throat anyway unless JFK had been leaning forward by nearly 60 degrees, because there was no hole through JFK's tie (as there would have been if a bullet had exited the shirt slits), and because the nick on the tie knot was not on the edge of the knot (and we have ample photographic evidence that JFK's tie knot was neatly centered in the middle of the collar band before and during the motorcade).

The SBT died when we learned there was no hole through JFK's tie, neither through the knot nor through any part of the rest of the tie. The tie knot was directly over the shirt slits. Any bullet exiting those slits could not have avoided tearing through the tie, nor could any such bullet have magically performed like a guided missile and weaved around the body of the knot and nicked the top surface of the knot inward from the left edge. Not on this planet anyway.

   Knott Lab and their forensic science found the SBT to be, "Impossible" back in late 2023. Their work is routinely admitted as "evidence" in courtrooms across the USA on a daily basis. We frequently hear the cry, "where is the Proof?", "where is the Evidence?". Knott Lab hammered that home a few years ago. The SBT has scientifically been proven to be a nonstarter.
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I can tell you have no idea how badly you've embarrassed yourself here.

I pointed out that Kenny O'Donnell said that FBI agents pressured him into changing his account of where he heard shots coming from. And you replied by ignoring O'Donnell's account and posed a question that assumed the whole issue was hypothetical, as if O'Donnell never said that FBI agents pressured him into changing this story.


Telling a witness he was wrong about his observation does not equate to pressuring him to change his story. The FBI knew the shots had not come from the GK and they told O'Donnell that. If he decided to alter his testimony, that is on him.

You don't quote Kenny O'Donnell. You quote Tip O'Neill quoting Kenny O'Donnell so we don't know how O'Donnel actually described the encounter. You are describing your impression of the impression O'Nell got from what O'Donnell said. A hearsay account hardly establishes that the FBI "pressured" O'Donnell to change his story. 

So I'll ask my question again. Why would the FBI pressure O'Donnell into changing his story.

The more fundamental question is, were any shots actually fired from the GK. There is no forensic evidence pointing to a shot from the GK. There were no eyewitness to a shot from the GK. There was an eyewitness who had a perfect view of the are behind the wooden fence when the shots were fired and he saw no one there. The only "evidence" of shots from the GK are the impressions of a group of earwitnesses who said all the shots came from the GK. They are contradicted by another group of witnesses who said all the shots came from the direction of the TSBD. The latter group is corroborated by 3 spent shell found in the sniper's nest and the murder weapon found elsewhere on the same floor. No corroboration for the earwitnesses who thought the shots came from the GK. That includes Kenny O'Donnell.
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It had to be an entrance wound because the back wound had no exit point, because the back wound was too low to have exited the throat anyway unless JFK had been leaning forward by nearly 60 degrees, because there was no hole through JFK's tie (as there would have been if a bullet had exited the shirt slits), and because the nick on the tie knot was not on the edge of the knot (and we have ample photographic evidence that JFK's tie knot was neatly centered in the middle of the collar band before and during the motorcade).

The SBT died when we learned there was no hole through JFK's tie, neither through the knot nor through any part of the rest of the tie. The tie knot was directly over the shirt slits. Any bullet exiting those slits could not have avoided tearing through the tie, nor could any such bullet have magically performed like a guided missile and weaved around the body of the knot and nicked the top surface of the knot inward from the left edge. Not on this planet anyway.

We are supposed to disregard the unanimous opinion of the FPP that the bullet that entered JFK's back exited his throat because some bozo doesn't think the nick in the tie was caused by the exiting bullet. That is laughable on the surface.
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Now that I'm rereading it, I cannot believe that no one has mentioned Breach of Trust: How the Warren Commission Failed the Nation and Why by Gerald McKnight. McKnight was a serious academic, and this book is widely regarded as one of the two or three absolute best CT tomes. McKnight doesn't go off on any wild CT tangents but simply provides a pretty devastating alternative perspective on the WC and the events swirling around it.

The fact that a majority of Americans don't believe the WCR is an indictment of them, not the WCR.
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My view:

Well, sure Mrs JBC did not see Gov. JBC being shot at ~Z-221, as he was not shot then.

JBC was shot ~Z-295, maybe even a few frames later.

Just IMHO.

You should find a new hobby. This one doesn't seem to suit your. It requires analytical skills. You don't seem to have any.
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Mrs. Connally had the best seat in the house (pardon the flip expression) when it came to injuries sustained by her husband, Gov. JBC on 11.22.

She had the worst seat for determining what was going on. She was too close to what was happening to take it all in. She couldn't see both JFK and JBC in the same field of vision. That is why nothing she says invalidates the SBT.
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Mrs. Connally's testimony flatly contradicts, and really obviates, the SBT-LNT theorizing.

After being shot, JBC was incapacitated, and she thought him "dead." 

I rather suspect a man shot through the chest with a large high-powered slug would in fact be incapacitated. That is a reasonable assumption.

By an unreasonable man.
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The SBT-LNT hypothesis is that after being shot through the chest, JBC makes a 180-degree turn in his seat to check on JFK. That is, the SBT-LNT theory posits, despite contradictory evidence, that JBC was shot ~Z-221.

That's asinine. JBC turned 180 degrees in reaction to being shot through the chest.
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The SBT-LNT hypothesis does not check out with the Z-film, or the testimony of both Connallys.

Connally: I was knocked over, just doubled over by the force of the bullet. It went in my back and came out my chest about 2 inches below and the left of my right nipple. The force of the bullet drove my body over almost double and when I looked, immediately I could see I was just drenched with blood. (1 HSCA 42)

My best guess is JBC is shot ~Z-295. After Z-221, JBC is bolt upright. Not doubled over.

Your best guess is FUBAR. The only thing you got right is that it was a guess, and very bad one. It's even worse than Andrew Mason's. I doubt either of you could spell "cat" if we spotted you the "C" and the "A"
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Caveat emptor, and draw your own conclusions.

We have and most of us think you and Andrew Mason haven't got a clue what happened.
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In the Zapruder film, Mrs. Connally can clearly be seen looking straight ahead, and not at all at her husband as he's hit, like she said she did.  It's easy to distinguish her forehead and hairline, as well as upper facial features, i.e. eyes and nose in frames 225 and 226.  She doesn't turn her head to her right until after her husband is struck.  She didn't see him when he was struck.  She saw the aftermath of when he was struck.

This is just silly. Of course she wasn't looking at him in Z225-226, because he wasn't hit yet. Sheesh, how long are you guys going to bury your heads in the sand and ignore the fact that Connally himself, the guy who actually experienced the wounding, identified Z234 as the moment of impact, after carefully studying high-quality color prints of the relevant frames under high magnification? His identification of Z234 as the moment of impact dovetails perfectly with what forensic science tells us about how long it would have taken for his shoulder to be driven downward, for the air forced from his lungs to cause his cheeks to puff, and for a pained expression to appear on his face.

But you guys have to ignore this plain, obvious evidence because it destroys your SBT fantasy.
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One thing is certain beyond any rational, excusable doubt: JFK begins to react to being wounded long before Connally begins to react to being wounded. JFK starts to react at right around Z200, as does Jackie. JFK's and Jackie's reactions that we see in Z224 begin in Z202. Starting in Z202, Jackie snaps her head from left to right to look at JFK, and she's still intently looking at him in Z224.

To all but those chained down by the single-bullet theory, it is obvious that JFK was hit by no later than Z196, and we know Connally was hit at Z234 because he told us so after carefully examining high-quality prints of the relative frames under high magnification, which makes perfect sense because he clearly starts to react in Z238.
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The JFK Assassination - Discussion & Debate / Re: Quoting Common Sense
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Weird - I had no idea my profile was set to receive PMs from Administrators only. I fixed it.

Thank you, Lance, check your inbox.



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Now that I'm rereading it, I cannot believe that no one has mentioned Breach of Trust: How the Warren Commission Failed the Nation and Why by Gerald McKnight. McKnight was a serious academic, and this book is widely regarded as one of the two or three absolute best CT tomes. McKnight doesn't go off on any wild CT tangents but simply provides a pretty devastating alternative perspective on the WC and the events swirling around it.
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