JFK Assassination Forum

Maybe This “cop” was taking off his gloves because he noticed all the other cops were NOT wearing gloves? JohnM  posted photos of cops RIDING their motorcycles and they are NOT wearing gloves. Are ANY other officers wearing gloves?

Or he was wearing gloves so that his fellow conspirators could identify him as the fake cop who would direct traffic away so their flamboyant getaway car could get out of the traffic jam?

Does that really make sense to you?

Royell, do you realize Jack is the author of Phantom Shot, which argues pretty persuasively that there were only two shots and thus no early shot? Aren't you the whiz kid who constantly tells people they need to do their research and get up to speed?

While the WC allowed for the possibility of only two shots, it seems pretty far fetched to me. JBC said he heard a shot before the one that hit him in the back. The clear consensus of witnesses is there 3 shots. Most compelling, three spent shell casings in the snipers nest. That dog won't hunt.

Royell, do you realize Jack is the author of Phantom Shot, which argues pretty persuasively that there were only two shots and thus no early shot? Aren't you the whiz kid who constantly tells people they need to do their research and get up to speed?

That’s why Oswald the AMERICAN citizen  Marxist defector was the ideal guy to frame ( or just let him shoot because LBJ already had info the kook was like the other kook Thomas Arthur Vallee) and Oswald was employed in the TSBD.

This  way the Marxist indoctrination of an American citizen could be blamed without directly accusing the USSR. Thus the Vietnam conventional arms war ( for profit) to stop the further spread of this insidious Marxist ideology from subverting all of Southeast Asia was to follow.

LBJ rewarded his good friend, Harold Byrd, owner of the TSBD, a contract to make A7 Corsair fighter aircraft for the Vietnam War. It’s probably just coincidence that Byrd removed a window from the 6th floor TSBD after the shooting and hung it on a wall in his house with other animal heads.

Another video of Norman completing his boom click click description in only 4 secs.

It might be plausible to suggest Norman heard it in 6 secs but it’s stretch to suggest it was an  8 or 10.2 duration.

The WC presumption was that the TSBD 6th floor shooter MUST have used the MC rifle because one was found on the 6th floor even though no statements  of finding gunpowder residue in the breech, chamber, or the barrel grooves or of the smell of gunpowder residue.

There was some controversy about finding a layer of oxidation in the barrel which should NOT have been there if 3 shots  had been fired  50 minutes  before the rifle was found. Generally  this is the “rusty barrel” CT factoid.

LNs explain it was a mistaken factoid about a
“Corroded barrel” which was referring to finding that the barrel had some pitting which was preexisting and which would not been removed by firing rounds. 

The shells found in the SN are questionable from the CT perspective because Will Fritz picked up 3 shells that Luke Mooney saw  ( 1st one there) on the SN floor BEFORE they were photographed laying there. Fritz left for a while with the shells in his pocket and then returned later to place 3 MC shells on the floor to be photographed. ( or even “threw” them down  according to Tom Aleya)

Norman described how he heard the FIRST shot fired and only  AFTER he saw JFK slump did Norman hear the last 2 shots fired which he said only took about 2 secs. That doesn’t support a Z224 shot being the 2nd shot. It’s actually supporting Z224 was the 1st shot.

There are some WC statements from Norman which he seems to deny he heard the sound of a bolt operating. He tries to explain that what he had originally said in the first interview with SS agent, that he had only said he head the   “ejection” of shells and the sound of them hitting the floor.

The boom “click click” and Norman saying he heard the bolt operation comes later, after there’s was more emphasis placed on convincing Norman he heard the operation of the MC bolt action, via an experiment.

So if Norman’s 4 sec  boom click click sequence ( or not longer than 6 secs) his accurate recollection, and he was not originally saying specifically hearing “bolt action” but rather just “ejection of shells” then it’s plausible to consider the TSBD shooter used a semi auto rifle instead of the MC rifle.

The fact of absence of reactions by any SS agents looking BACK at TSBD from Z133-Z207 and the fact of 3/4ths witness hearing last 2 shots “back to bsck” or in some cases only about 1 sec apart ( such as Lee Bowers) suggests Dans Z224 /Z313/ Z335ish 3 shots theory is plausible as firing the last 2 shots rapidly with a semi auto could have caused the last  shot  1 sec after Z313 to go slightly high due to the Muzzle rise effect. That round hits the curb near Tague.

It  semi auto would explain 4 witness who observed a “pointed” bullet” which was found on the stretcher and which 4 witness were unwilling to  confirm  399 was the bullet they had originally seen.