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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: Lovelady in Darnell and it's Ramifications.
« Last post by Dan O'meara on Yesterday at 08:35:47 PM »I don’t see why the WC investigators would want Bakers time to the steps to be as soon as 20-25 secs post shots because they’ve got to make sure there was enough time for their suspected 6th floor shooter Oswald to be able to get down to the 2nd floor lunchroom. Likewise They were careful to assign 2 minutes as the time for Mrs Reid’s return to the 2nd floor office so she’s not seeing Oswald too early before Baker/Truly do.
Baker himself thought it probably was closer to 90 secs post shots when he finally got to the door of the 2nd floor lunchroom.
It’s all depending on Mrs Garner. What time did she follow behind Adams and Stiles. She never gave any specific time estimate other than to say she was “right behind them” and followed “ almost immediately”.
So is that less than 30 secs? If so then there is no way a 6th floor shooter using the stairs could have gone past her unseen. (however he could have used one of the elevators like Jack Dougherty allegedly did)
Could it be as long as 1 minute post shots? If so a 6th floor shooter CAN get down it the 4th floor landing and start down the 4th floor stairs to 3rd floor without being seen by Garner.
From what excerpts I’ve read from Barry Ernest book pertaining to Garners statements one particular one being she changed her statement from seeing Adam’s and Stiles (A/S) go down the stairs to HEARING THEM go down.
I have not found any clarification of what exactly Garner heard. If she’s saying she “ heard them” then to me that implies she heard their voices. If so then she could not have waited 1 minute to follow A/S because A/S have exited the stairwell to the 1st floor and it’s improbable Garner have heard their voices then.
As to what reason Lovelady and Shelley are suddenly more interested in going back in to the TSBD quickly rather than go investigate all the commotion on the GK, it does seem kind of strange. Maybe seeing Baker running to the steps with his gun in hand was more compelling than what was happening elsewhere.
Royell's argument is really weird.
It is clearly the case that those wanting to demonstrate that Oswald was the lone assassin would leave as much time as possible for Truly and Baker to get to the second floor lunchroom. This would give Oswald plenty of time to get down from the 6th floor to the 2nd floor lunchroom.
The time trials involving Baker and Truly created a real headache for the WC Sham because they were so quick.
In fact, it was the speed of the Truly/Baker time trials that created the very first conspiracy theories - how could Truly and Baker have interacted with Oswald on the 2nd floor 90 seconds after the shooting if Oswald was supposed to be on the 6th floor?
The Tom Dillard pic. taken between 10 - 15 seconds of the shooting shows Adams, Styles and Garner had already left their parade watching positions - in accordance with Adams' assertion that she had decided to race down to the scene of the shooting before the limo had even reached the underpass.
As for Shelley and Lovelady...they lied about their movements because they were covering something up that involved their presence near the elevators within seconds of the shooting.
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