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Dear Royell,

Unlike you, I've got the basics right:

Lee Harvey Oswald, a psychologically disturbed, self-described Marxist and former Marine sharpshooter, fired three shots at JFK over 10.2 seconds

-- Tom

I feel very strongly that the first shot was fired at or about Z151 and the total elapsed time for all three shots was about 8.75 seconds. I freely admit my conclusions is based on my analysis of clues I see in the Z-film and does not constitute proof positive. I am curious about those of you who think the first shot was fired before Zapruder resumed filming. How you can give such a precise time that first shot was fired. It can't be based on the Z-film because Zapruder wasn't filming at the time you theorize the first shot was fired.

I pretty much concur with the rest of your conclusions although I would nitpick slightly over one of your time frames. I believe the second shot was fired at Z220 based on the camera jiggle at Z227. The head shot is the easiest to pinpoint and for that shot to have struck at Z313, it would have to have been fired at Z311. I would expect the same lag time between the shot being fired and Zapruder's jiggle reaction for all three shots since the distance between Oswald's rifle and Zapruder's ears was a constant. I believe that to be about 7 frames while acknowledging the true number is likely not an integer.
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Common Sense tells us it is impossible for Gloria to make it back to the front steps, tell everyone there about the assassination, after which Shelley and Lovelady are pictured walking down the Elm St Ext.
100% that did not happen.
Trolls like Tom are not interested in Common Sense or what's possible in reality.
As far as he is concerned, Kamp has magically produced an image of Lovelady and no amount of evidence can change what's left of his mind.

However, it is perfectly possible for Gloria to make it back to the front steps in the allotted time, where Darnell pictured her telling Lovelady and everyone on the steps about the assassination:



   This is a Darnell Film still frame Blowup. It is timestamped as being 20 seconds after the kill shot. The figure you see with all the forehead showing is Billy Lovelady. He is standing on the steps in front of the TSBD. He is almost standing in the very same spot that the Altgens photo showed him to be standing. Without a doubt, this is Lovelady 20 seconds after the kill shot. Lovelady can Not be in 2 places at the same time. Lovelady is Not one of the "2 Guys" distancing themselves from the "getaway" car on the Couch Film.
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Royell steered me to a Couch clip which is the best quality I've come across:



I cropped and blew up the two men:



There is a hint of something on the shirt in this image that may be a pattern but I wouldn't have an idea how to get it to stand out.
Maybe someone who knows what they're doing can have a go.

    This is a Couch Film still frame. It happened at 20 seconds after the kill shot. On the extreme (R) you see Officer Baker running toward the TSBD front door. Behind Officer Baker, we see "2 Guys" moving away from a parked car. In front of Officer Baker, standing on the TSBD front steps, is BILLY LOVELADY. It is Physically Impossible for either of the "2 Guys" we see behind Officer Baker to be Bill Lovelady. Billy Lovelady can Not be in 2 places at the same time.
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   This is a Darnell Film still frame showing the front of the TSBD only 20 seconds after the kill shot. On the (L) we see Officer Baker running toward the TSBD front door. Between Officer Baker and that TSBD front door, we see BILLY LOVELADY. Lovelady is standing in almost the very same spot we see him on the classic Altgens photo. Without a doubt, this is Lovelady and Officer Baker 20 seconds after the kill.

Who cares?
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Of course I remember, Pinko.
This is the lie...sorry, fabrication... I'm talking about, so obviously I remember.
I've argued all along that Shelley immediately ran from the steps and met Gloria coming the other way. He states this in his affidavit. (People such as yourself have to ignore the fact that, during his WC testimony, Shelley completely changes his story, stating that he stayed on the steps for at least 3 minutes before Gloria ran up).
The 'fabrication' I have to keep calling you out on is the part where Shelley calls Lovelady to join him. You've invented that. It's your fabrication. It is not based on any testimonial evidence whatsoever. It's a lie you have to tell because you can't find any other way of getting Lovelady and Shelley on to the Elm Street Ext. within 25 seconds.
You have swallowed down Kamp's 'Lovelady' image without question even though it has been demonstrated that this image is dubious, to say the least, and now it's been pointed out that it's physically impossible for Shelley and Lovelady to do what they attested to in their WC testimonies AND be on Elm St within 25 seconds, you've had to invent this lie. If it's any comfort, Lance "I think I've Had An Accident" Payette did exactly the same thing.

On the other hand, my own identification of Lovelady in Darnell does not require me to lie my way through an explanation and makes perfect sense with the known timings:



   This is a Darnell Film still frame showing the front of the TSBD only 20 seconds after the kill shot. On the (L) we see Officer Baker running toward the TSBD front door. Between Officer Baker and that TSBD front door, we see BILLY LOVELADY. Lovelady is standing in almost the very same spot we see him on the classic Altgens photo. Without a doubt, this is Lovelady and Officer Baker 20 seconds after the kill.
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Royell steered me to a Couch clip which is the best quality I've come across:



I cropped and blew up the two men:



There is a hint of something on the shirt in this image that may be a pattern but I wouldn't have an idea how to get it to stand out.
Maybe someone who knows what they're doing can have a go.

   This is a still frame from the Couch Film. On the extreme (R) we see Officer Baker running toward the TSBD front door. This is only 20 seconds after the Kill Shot. Those "2 Guys" you see alongside the car, have just gotten out of that car. Officer Baker and Officer Smith having just run by this intended "getaway" car, have flushed them out of the car.
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Common Sense tells us it is impossible for Gloria to make it back to the front steps, tell everyone there about the assassination, after which Shelley and Lovelady are pictured walking down the Elm St Ext.
100% that did not happen.
Trolls like Tom are not interested in Common Sense or what's possible in reality.
As far as he is concerned, Kamp has magically produced an image of Lovelady and no amount of evidence can change what's left of his mind.

However, it is perfectly possible for Gloria to make it back to the front steps in the allotted time, where Darnell pictured her telling Lovelady and everyone on the steps about the assassination:



   This is a Blowup of a Darnell Film still frame. That figure you see showing a ton of "forehead" is Lovelady. He is standing on almost the very same spot as we saw him on the classic Altgens photo. This is Lovelady. This is 20 seconds after the Kill Shot.
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Of course I don't know. That's why I said up front there wasn't enough information for me to give an explanation. There is only room for speculation since there are so many unknowns. The difference between us is I know when I am speculating while you treat your speculations as if they are proven facts. To be fair, you aren't the only conspiracy hobbyist I have dealt with over the years who exhibits this trait. I find it to be quite common and almost a requirement to be a conspiracy hobbyist.

That should tell you something....but probably won't.

This is where you turn to speculation. You haven't proven jack. You don't even understand what constitutes proof. The person with the hypothesis has the burden of proof. It is up to you to prove your hypothesis. Nobody else has the burden of disproving it. It's all on you to prove what you claim. It's as if I proposed that there are herds of pink unicorns roaming on the far side of the moon and the reason none of our spacecraft have observed them is because they duck into a deep crater whenever they detect a spacecraft flying by. Prove me wrong. If you can't, it must be a fact.

    I have proven that is NOT LOVELADY walking next to the car on the Couch Film. This was repeated by people such as yourself for 62+ years to the point of being widely accepted. To this day you are echoing this JFK Urban Legend. The Image Evidence which includes Officer Baker is conclusively. Lovelady is Not one of those "2 Guys" walking away from the car on the Couch Film. So what 2 guys could get into this position alongside the car only 20 seconds after the kill shot?    Answer - "2 Guys" that were previously sitting inside that car.
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Question: How could the American electorate be so ignorant as to elect Donald Trump in 2016 and 2020?

Answer: It was the result of the cumulative effects of fifty-plus years of KGB disinformation and "active measures" operations aimed at getting Americans to distrust their government.

For example, Oliver Stone's 1991 film, "JFK," the origins of which can be traced back to an anti-Clay Shaw / anti-CIA article published in a Communist-owned Italian newspaper, Paese Sera, three days after overly ambitious, scandal-plagued, and revengeful New Orleans DA Jim Garrison arrested Shaw on suspicion of having masterminded a homosexual thrill-kill assassination of JFK, and which article motivated Garrison to change his theory against Shaw to "He organized it for the evil, evil CIA."

   It's good seeing that time has opened your eyes. Like Nixon in 1960, Trump did Win in 2020. "Better late than never".
   
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   12:35 PM - Officer Haygood makes documented police radio transmission from his motorcycle parked near the Triple Underpass.

   12:36 PM - Officer Harkness makes documented police radio transmission from his motorcycle. Harkness says he has a witness/Euins and is bringing him to the TSBD. Harkness then proceeds to load Euins into Inspector Sawyer's car there in front of the TSBD. Officer Harkness is then instructed to secure the area behind the TSBD. This is where we see him pictured above.

         The above Darnell still frame has been previously timestamped as 12:34 PM. The documented police radio transmissions of Haygood and Harkness make this 12:34 PM timestamp to be impossible. The above is happening at 12:38 PM. And the above pictured DPD Motorcycle Officer is NOT Officer Haygood. (1) Who is this impostor? (2) Where is his motorcycle? (3) Where is he going?

When you have evidence that answers your inane questions, get back to us.
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