JFK Assassination Forum

Oliver Stone's role is to merely keep everyone going in circles.

   Your description of Oliver Stone would also fit Director Alfred Hitchcock.

This is a crop of Z137. That frame’s significance is that it is the frame associated with the Willis4 photo. I put a yellow arrow pointed at Willis. He is taking the photo and has his face pointed about 90-degrees to the camera’s angle. Both the limo and the TSBD are in that direction at that point in time (as can be seen in the Willis4 photo). In Z137 it appears to me that Rosemary is looking directly at the camera.




If you will take notice of the gray-haired lady with the black hat who has her left arm and purse blocking the Zapruder’s camera’s view of Rosemary’s right side; you should be able to see that the lady’s right arm is raised up high. What is interesting about that is that she appears to be pointing directly at the sniper’s window. And there is a large gap in the motorcade between the queen mary vehicle and the VP vehicle. So there is no vehicle in the direction (where one might thing she is looking and waving). See the animation image below from the time of the Z141 frame.

   Looking at Willis 4, the lady with the, "right arm raised up high", could be waving at the JFK Limo. She has Willis in front of her and could be waving above his head in order to possibly catch the eye of Jackie/JFK, etc.
   The TSBD has a very large footprint. The front of that building extends well down the Elm St Ext. A person can be looking at the end of the TSBD attached to the Huge Gates, and their view would be a great distance from the Sniper's Nest. Glancing in the direction of the front of the TSBD does Not automatically include seeing the sniper's nest.   

  I believe you guys are choosing to avoid getting into what is obvious. The Zapruder Film and Altgens 6 do Not show the same thing. JFK Assassination Image conflict/alteration is Not a new issue in this case. You can Not veer away from it.

 Take a look at the National Archives copy of the Zapruder film.  James Chaney keeps his head facing straight ahead if you watch him until he disappears from Zapruder's view.  He never looks to his left at any time.

Have you seen the National Archives copy of the Zapruder film Steve? It is my understanding that that is a privilege that not many people get to have.

I won’t argue about the direction that his head faces. My impression that he turned his head to his left could definitely be wrong. However, I think that he could have glanced to his left using just the movement of his eyes. My opinion still is that Chaney’s description of JFK looking over his left shoulder just after the first loud bang that Chaney first thought was a motorcycle backfire is when JFK does just that around the mid Z140s to Z150s.

Rosemary Willis started to look away from the Presidential limo back towards the Texas School Book Depository at Z-140.

You are imagining something that is not apparent in the zfilm.  She comes out of the shadow and her head does not turn. Here is z138 to z152 in slow motion:



At z145-152 her hood is pointing directly sideways so she is facing the President's car:


Rosemary Willis is marked no. 50 in the Tyler animation.  If she was looking at Clint Hill, her head would be turned more than 90 degrees to Zapruder's line of sight and her hood opening would not be visible.  But we can see her hood opening so her hood is facing the President's car. We can't see her face.

JFK began quickly turning his head to his left at Z-143.

Here is z140-151 in slow motion:


He does not move his head any perceptible amount. You are imagining this.

Nellie began a quick sweeping head turn to her right at Z-144.

She turns from looking forward, perhaps a little left, to looking forward, a little to the right.  Not really quick or sweeping.

Regarding the former, JFK's last (as in final) wave began around Z-173, right before he passed behind the Stemmons Freeway sign and was hit in the lower neck/upper back by Oswald's second shot at Z-222.

Regarding the later, Chism and Woodward "recalled" this several hours, days, weeks, months, or years after the startling and traumatic event.

Chism gave his statement on 22Nov63 within hours of the assassination.

Woodward went from Dealey Plaza to her office and immediately wrote the story that appeared in the Dallas Morning News the next day. She said:

• "The President was looking straight ahead and we were afraid we were afraid we would not get to see his face. But we started clapping and cheering and both he and Mrs. Kennedy turned, and smiled and waved, directly at us, it seemed. Jackie was wearing a beautiful pink suit with beret to match. Two of us, who had seen the President last during the final weeks of the 1960 campaign remarked how relaxed and robust he looked.
  
  As it turned out, we were almost certainly the last faces he noticed in the crowd."
  
  After acknowledging our cheers, he faced forward again and suddenly there was a horrible, ear-shattering noise coming from behind us and a little to the right."

Anyone with normal vision (evidently not you) can see that he lowers his hand over the next couple of frames until it's all the way back down at Z-150.

He moves his hand from vertical to horizontal.  He does not move his head a perceptible amount. You are imagining this.