JFK Assassination Forum

Of course Frazier did not see a rifle. That's why Oswald made the bag so neither Frazier nor anybody else could see the rifle. Did you really need me to explain this to you.

The rifle will not fit under his arm.
  Did you really need me to explain this to you?

This image of Haygood shows the length of his glove.  Note the skin where the glove ends at the wrist:


https://ibb.co/0jYVYjBj

 This image shows Haygood carrying his glove.  Note that the front end of the glove he is carrying is not "blunt":

 https://ibb.co/TM73dkBw

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Yes, you have provided a partial list of JFKA suspects.

You left off KGB, which is not that far-fetched; LHO visited the KGB in MC, and a Minsk KGB'er said he regarded LHO as an asset. LHO appears to have been in touch with G-2'ers in New Orleans, reports Gus Russo.

Some in the Education Forum favor Nazis (who left Germany after WWII) and William Niederhut has a major, but never requited, boner for Ed Lansdale.

I would never suggest the list I provided was in any way a comprehensive on. I would bet that a complete list would be several times longer if we went to the trouble of identifying every person or entity that was involved in the assassination.

As for what Russo claimed, my first question would be, what was his source for this. I have seen to many instances over the years where people would identify suspects based on the flimsiest of evidence.

The best reason for doubting Oswald was working on behalf of anyone but himself is the timing of his hiring at the TSBD, the selection of the motorcade route, and the public notification of the motorcade route. Oswald was hired by the TSBD in mid-October. For a time in the 1980s, I had become a conspiracy believer but it was upon learning these facts that it became clear to me a conspiracy made no sense. The KGB could not have known at the time Oswald was in Minsk or when he was in Mexico City that one day he would be in perfect position to assassinate the POTUS. Neither could any other group or individuals.

The original plan was for JFK to make a one day trip to Texas and it would have been logistically impossible for him to make stops in all the cities he visited and still have a motorcade. It was only after the White House agreed to make it a two day trip that JBC dropped his objection to scheduling a motorcade. JBC was given the task of planning the details of the trip. The route of the motorcade was dictated by the selection of the Trade Mart as the location for the luncheon. Had either of the other two sites been selected, the motorcade would not have driven directly in front of the TSBD. In another forum, a conspiracy hobbyist made the ridiculous suggestion that JBC purposefully directed the motorcade route past the TSBD which is why I included him on the list. JBC selected the Trade Mart for the luncheon because he wanted to show off the fairly new facility. Despite having some security issues with all the catwalks and entry ways, the Secret Service agreed with the choice, believing they could deal with those issues. The final motorcade route past the TSBD was determined on November 14, weeks after Oswald had already been hired by the TSBD. The route was not made public until November 21, four days before the assassination. Whether one believes Oswald was an active participant in the plot or just a patsy, that would have given the conspirators only four days to identify him as an asset and to make the plans to carry out the plot.

The above facts indicate the JFKA was a crime of opportunity. Oswald found out early in the week of the golden opportunity fate had dealt him to become somebody of consequence. I don't pretend to know exactly why Oswald chose to kill JFK, but it seems clear to me he acted simply because he could. If JFK had been directed anywhere other than the TSBD, I doubt the idea of killing JFK would have entered his mind. Maybe he would have hunted JFK down wherever JFK had gone, but I seriously doubt it. It would have been difficult to move into position with a rifle to kill JFK anywhere else. Maybe he would have found a place he could have killed JFK with his handgun, but that seems unlikely too although not preposterously so.

We'll never know for sure whether Oswald would have acted had motorcade been directed elsewhere, but it is a moot point. JFK was directed to drive past the TSBD in a slow moving open top car which gave Oswald a once in a lifetime opportunity to do his evil deed.  He took full advantage.

No reason? Seriously? If you were Oswald and you had made a 38 inch bag to conceal your rifle and then discovered your rifle was 40 inches long, not the 36 inch rifle you had ordered, what would you do at that point?

We know for fact that the rifle had been disassembled and handled by Oswald because that is the only way his palm print could have been placed on the underside of the barrel. Oswald's palmprints were on both the rifle and the bag, proof positive that he had handled both. The presence of the fibers on the bag that matched his rifle blanket are prima facie evidence that the bag was used to hold the rifle.

Conspiracy hobbyists taken the ridiculous position that every piece of evidence must be 100% conclusive to be probative and accepted. That is absurd not just in this case but in all cases. Prosecutors base their cases on an accumulation of evidence that is probative but rarely 100% conclusive by itself. There will always be possible alternative explanations for any given piece of evidence but that does not take away from the probative value of the evidence.

I haven't bothered to count them but Vincent Bugliosi identified over 50 pieces of evidence that indicated Oswald was the assassin. Not one of these pieces of evidence is conclusive by itself of Oswald's guilt, but taken collectively, they leave no doubt. When the most likely explanation for any one piece of evidence is that Oswald is guilty, there is no reasonable argument for his innocence when you have that many pieces pointing to his guilt.

In the past, I've drawn an analogy to a jigsaw puzzle. No one piece of the puzzle can tell us what the picture looks like, but the pieces of the puzzle can only fit together one way. When we put the pieces of evidence together, the picture unmistakenly presented is that Oswald was the assassin. It is the only way the individual pieces will fit together. We might have a few missing pieces, such as where to the missed shot go and what did it hit. The biggest missing piece is Oswald's motive. That we will never know for sure, but we can still get a very clear picture of what happened without that piece. Conspiracy hobbyists never want to put the pieces of the puzzle together. They look at one piece and say it doesn't look like anything. Of course it doesn't until you put it together with the other pieces and then the picture becomes crystal clear.

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There is no mistaking this rifle for curtain rods and there is no way to carry it without looking like a fishing pole, baseball bat or a RIFLE.
Frazier did not see a rifle.

  You are going ostrich and ignoring the solid timelines of Officer Harkness and Buddy Walthers. Both of which Darnell filmed with this "Unknown Motorcycle Cop".
 The LN's understand the conspiracy ramifications of my fact based work. Hence, the totally unfounded claim of Haygood going deep into the railroad yard for a 2nd time. I have never seen anything so absurdly knee-jerk outta them. But, this is what you get with a ground breaking fact based discovery. "That Ain't Haygood" is rippling through the LN Community as we speak. And the conspiracy crowd is also now involved. Just so you ostrich's know.

Your whole premise is base on the ridiculous assumption that "Unknown Motorcycle Cop" has to be an imposter. You arbitrarily dismiss the far more likely explanations that the cop could be Haygood after taking one of his gloves off or that it could be a different unidentified DPD cop. That is a completely illogical assumption. You have no evidence the cop is an impostor. It is an argument you have pulled out of thin air.

Have you ever bothered to ask yourself one simple question? What reason would the conspirators have had for putting an impostor cop in the railroad yard behind the GK. What could he have possibly been doing that would have aided the conspiracy in any way? What evidence do you have that he did what you imagined he was put there for? I eagerly await your answers to these questions.