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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: A Car, A Garden, And A Coupla Guys
« Last post by Tom Graves on Today at 01:11:47 AM »
Quote from: Royell Storing on Yesterday at 06:35:42 PM
I have consistently said that the Wiegman shows no car parked alongside the Island. If you believe the Wiegman Film shows a car parked there, show it to me, or direct me where I need to go in order to actually see that 17.5 Feet Long and almost 5 Feet Tall car. The only people claiming to see a car alongside the Island on the Wiegman Film are: (1) you, and my good friend, (2) "The Nutty Professor". And "The Professor" only sees this car via his recently invented, "Shadow DNA". The absence of a car parked alongside the Island on the Wiegman Film, coupled with a car suddenly appearing there roughly 20 seconds later on the Darnell and Couch Films, is a Major JFK Assassination Discovery. I have currently been working on ID'ing the registered owner of what I believe was an intended "getaway" car. I have recently made an additional discovery that I believe will lead to achieving this goal. I will soon be submitting my discovery to other JFK Assassination Researchers that hold opinions of value.

Dear Royell,

Why do you refuse to answer my question?

Here it is, again, for you:

What kind of strange-looking car are we seeing in Wiegman to the immediate left of "Fedora Man On The Island" and parked on the other side of Elm Street Extension if not a normal, light-colored car that is parked on the other side of Elm Street Extension but is being partially overlapped, visually speaking, by your 1958 Pontiac Bonneville "getaway car" parked next to the "island"?

-- Tom
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: The Tippit Shooting At 1:15-1:16, FACT
« Last post by Zeon Mason on Today at 01:05:57 AM »
Quote from: Bill Brown on Yesterday at 10:14:54 PM

Months before rhis Warren Commission testimony, no mention of a jacket....



That last couple of sentences looks like to me the description of the man as 5ft 8in , slender wearing a dark shirt and white pants? And he was wearing a bracelet ?

Whaley repeated the bracelet detail in his WC testimony.

Bill do you know what the time was when Whaley wrote that statement?

Because if he wrote that statement before he saw any TV camera recordings or pictures of Oswald in newspapers then imo that bracelet detail supports that Whaley saw Oswald.

If however if the statement was written after Oswald was seen by millions holding up his hands handcuffed with the bracelet clearly visible, then given the discrepancy of Whaleys WC testimony about seeing a jacket, would that cast some reasonable doubt if he even ever had Oswald in the taxi at all?
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: That Is Not Officer Haygood = Conspiracy! Prove Me Wrong Challenge
« Last post by Royell Storing on Today at 12:58:10 AM »
Quote from: James Hackerott on March 25, 2024, 12:58:15 AM
After leaving the RR yard Murray stood on the grassy knoll and photographed the crowd gathered on N Elm, including the area near the parked motorcycle of Clyde Haygood. His helmet is visible in the photo near his bike. Murray also caught the north peristyle wall with an advancing shadow moving southward about 3-4” per minute. Modeling this wall shadow allows an estimation of the time as 12:36.


My original posting on this technique can be found in this forum here.
https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,2013.msg54679.html#google_vignette

   And here on the (R) is Officer Haygood at his motorcycle near the Triple Underpass at the 12:35 time period. Thanks to my good friend "The Professor" for helping to prove that Todd was wrong once again.
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: Gunman in the pergola window...
« Last post by Tom Graves on Today at 12:52:39 AM »
Quote from: Royell Storing on Today at 12:41:32 AM
When quoting the "views" for this thread, you miss the obvious. You're outta step. This is further reflected in your looking for an excuse for getting beat in 2016. Long story short, you're in the minority and have been for better than a decade that I know of. Stop being a dink and give Maxwell his due. He's a straw stirring the drink.

Dear Royell,

As I've told you before, "former" KGB counterintelligence officer Vladimir Putin cherishes the nation-rending disinformation you and others of your ilk spew on forums like this.

Keep up the good work, Sonderführer Storing!

-- Tom
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: That Is Not Officer Haygood = Conspiracy! Prove Me Wrong Challenge
« Last post by Royell Storing on Today at 12:51:40 AM »
Quote from: Mitch Todd on March 13, 2024, 06:11:50 AM
Who said that Haygood used the radio on his own motorcycle? By 12:35, both Harkness and King had their three-wheelers on top of the rail yard. One of them is seen riding around in the rail yard in the Hughes film. He could have just borrowed their radios

   I recommend that you read the WC Testimony of Haygood. Haygood makes it clear that at 12:35 PM he used the Radio on his Motorcycle parked close to the Triple Underpass. You are looking for anything and everything to try and disprove this Major Discovery. That Ain't Haygood.
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: Three evenly spaced shots, or "bang . . . . . . . . bang - bang"?
« Last post by Tom Graves on Today at 12:45:12 AM »
Quote from: John Corbett on Today at 12:05:28 AM
The important point is that the eyewitnesses who IDed Oswald as Tippit's murderer were corroborated by the fact Oswald had the Tippit murder weapon in his possession when arrested a short time later along with the same two makes of bullets that were recovered from Tippit's body. I'd call that damn good corroboration.

Without that corroboration, you could make a strong argument for reasonable doubt for Oswald in the Tippit murder. A majority of the wrongfully convicted inmates who were later freed by the innocence project by DNA evidence were convicted due to mistaken eyewitness testimony.

"According to the Innocence Project, as of January 2020, 375 convictions had been overturned through DNA exoneration since 1989. Mistaken identification by eyewitnesses played a role in 61% of those wrongful convictions."

Due to the complicated factors in Dealey Plaza, I think convicting Oswald for the murder of Tippit on eyewitness testimony alone would have been easier than "convicting" him (or any other bad guy) for having fired, from the Sniper's Nest, a missing-everything shot at JFK at hypothetical Z-124 (i.e., half-a-second before Zapruder resumed filming at Z-133), which Roselle and Searce have shown was very probably the case.

https://d7922adf-f499-4a26-96d4-8ab2d521fa35.usrfiles.com/ugd/d7922a_e280e26982b44f2c97c6e6e27026e385.pdf
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: Gunman in the pergola window...
« Last post by Royell Storing on Today at 12:41:32 AM »
Quote from: Tom Graves on Today at 12:12:19 AM
The fact that this lame thread has had 28,000-plus "views" since it was started a month-and-a-half ago is circumstantial evidence that "former" KGB counterintelligence officer Vladimir Putin really did install Trump as our "president" on 20 January 2017, because it shows how many gullible people there are (most of whom, one can assume, are American citizens) at this forum for him to manipulate and who are attracted to this sort of thing (can you say QAnon?).

   When quoting the "views" for this thread, you miss the obvious. You're outta step. This is further reflected in your looking for an excuse for getting beat in 2016. Long story short, you're in the minority and have been for better than a decade that I know of. Stop being a dink and give Maxwell his due. He's a straw stirring the drink.
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: Gov. John Connally Grips His White Stetson Hat at Z-272
« Last post by Tom Graves on Today at 12:34:23 AM »
Quote from: Andrew Mason on Today at 12:09:16 AM
Patricia Ann Donaldson said that the limo had just straightened out on Elm Street and that the last two of the three shots were fired very close together. (paraphrased)

Given the nature of the beast (Dealey Plaza created different echoes in different places; people were affected differently by the trauma and chaos they experienced), very few witnesses to the assassination got everything right.

Donaldson at least got the position of the limo basically correct, and from where she was standing, she probably did hear two very close-together echoes.
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: Education Forum: Clean Towel Service Zionists Waxed JFK!
« Last post by Paul J Cummings on Today at 12:22:16 AM »
Congratulations on discussing! No one researched the company.

Quote from: Bill Brown on Yesterday at 10:26:53 PM

Nonsense.

I saw discussion of this towel truck 20 years ago.
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Did LHO fire a shot that missed everything? If so, when did he fire it?
« Last post by Tom Graves on Today at 12:15:31 AM »
When one accepts the reality of the Single Bullet Theorem, i.e., that JFK and JBC were struck by CE-399 at approximately Z-222, then one can speculate on whether or not it was Oswald who had fired the earlier, missing-everything, shot, and if so, when he fired it.

Since three spent shells that had been fired from Oswald's Carcano were found in the Sniper's Nest about an hour after the assassination, since the Carcano, with Oswald's prints on it, was found on the sixth floor, and since Oswald was seen on the sixth floor near the Sniper's Nest by Charles Givens at about 12:05 and by Roy Truly and Officer Baker in the second floor lunchroom about 90 seconds after the final shot, we can reasonably assume that that it was Oswald who had fired all three shots.

Now the only remaining question is when he fired the missing-everything shot.

Brian Roselle and Kevin Scearce point out in their 2020 study that an involuntary "startle" reaction to a loud, unexpected sound like a gunshot does not involve a major L-R head rotation, but "flexion" movements (bending the head and neck forward and downward), instead.

They also point out that seven prime witnesses (including five passengers in the limo: JFK, Jackie, JBC, Nellie, and Kellerman) quickly turned their heads within half-a-second of each other between Z-142 and Z-149, indicating that Oswald's missing-everything shot was at hypothetical Z-124, half-a-second before Zapruder resumed filming at Z-133 and 2.02 seconds before Croft took his photo at Z-161.

Rhetorical question: Can even three of those passengers be shown to have turned their heads quickly within half-a-second of each other in any other part of the Zapruder film up to Z-222?

I haven't looked yet, but I rather doubt it.

https://d7922adf-f499-4a26-96d4-8ab2d521fa35.usrfiles.com/ugd/d7922a_e280e26982b44f2c97c6e6e27026e385.pdf
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