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All anyone needs to know about Horne is that he recycled David Lifton's ridiculous body snatching theory that proposes clandestine surgery was conducted on the corpse to disguise the true nature of the wounds. That theory is so preposterous it should be dismissed out of hand. Only the most gullible of CTs would consider it the least bit plausible.

Peter Janney and Doug Horne : William L Mitchell testified at the Mary Meyer murder trial in DC in 1965, and then disappeared.
He resided at the time at 1500 Arlington Blvd,  Apt. 1022, Arlington, Va.
Author Leo Damore met with Mitchell later and confessed to Damore that he, Mitchell, was a CIA assassin who shot Mary Meyer, Before his
suicide, Damore passed Mitchell's confession to Damore's attorney.


Me, to Jim Fetzer :

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https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/19367-%E2%80%9Cmary%E2%80%99s-mosaic%E2%80%9D-a-litmus-test-of-jfk-research-integrity/

You've got a PhD, but you couldn't anticipate this surfacing?

Directory of Computer Education and Research: Volume 3

books.google.com T. C. Hsiao - 1973 - 1800 pages

MITCHELL, WILLIAM L. - Assistant Professor of Business Administration

Department of Management Sciences School of Business and Economics CALIFORNIA

STATE UNIVERSITY, HAYWARD

........
https://books.google.com/books?id=w1ZVAAAAYAAJ&q=MITCHELL,+WILLIAM+L.+1500+Arlington+Blvd.,+Apt.+1022,+Arlington,+Va.&dq=MITCHELL,+WILLIAM+L.+1500+Arlington+Blvd.,+Apt.+1022,+Arlington,+Va.&source=bl&ots=AxBvmeErTr&sig=cySzLftQyi0AqpM1uSeJJmwRhDI&hl=en&sa=X&ei=ryAiUNvWPI-G8QTunIHYAg&sqi=2&ved=0CDcQ6AEwAA

 American Mathematical Society, Mathematical Association of America, Society for Industrial and Applied Mathematics - 1965 - Snippet view

...... MITCHELL, WILLIAM L. I Pentagon, OR Group, Systems Dept., USADSC, Washington, D. C. 1500 Arlington Blvd., Apt. 1022, Arlington, Va. MITCHELL,

Edited August 11, 2012 by Tom Scully


Doug Horne's reaction.Takes a minute to load...

https://web.archive.org/web/20210615060333/http://jfkforum.com/images/JanneyHorneReacts.jpg
 


Meanwhile, author Janney, with his mother on her death bed, took the Berkely, CA address I had provided of Dr. Mitchell and
flew to California, knocked on Mitchell's door, recording their exchange. Mitchell refused to open his door after Janney explained why
he was there and in so many words, told Janney to GFH. Two years later Janney managed to depose Mitchell in Oakland, CA!
Sometimes a math professor can only be proven to be..... a math professor.

in the first of two revisions of his book, Dr. Peter Janney, psychologist and the son of the personnel director of the CIA, admitted that I
was not concealing my name when I emailed a crony of Janney, a UGA law professor, advising him to reconsider his favorable review of Janney's book.

https://www.google.com/books/edition/Mary_s_Mosaic/OGOCDwAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=mary%27s+mosaic+tom+scully+law+professor&pg=PT348&printsec=frontcover
Mary's Mosaic: The CIA Conspiracy to Murder John F. Kennedy, ...
books.google.com › books
Peter Janney · 2016
Found inside
... Tom Scully, but he would identify himself on Amazon only as “Rational Voice.” Discussing his critical post of Mary's Mosaic in an email to a University of Georgia law professor, Scully identified himself as “a moderator at the Internet ...
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She said the first shot didn't hit anybody in the limo. Deal with it.
She didn't say that.  She said: "Things are a little hazy from this point, but I don't believe anyone was hit with the first bullet." 
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Oh. poor Billy is upset, because he gets called out to present evidence he can't provide. What a loser!

And btw, you haven't gotten anything done. This is not the first time that I have caught you in a lie and it won't be the last.

It's a process.  It's taking time.  Once everything is finished, it'll get posted.  Could be another month; could be another year.  Hold your breath, please.
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Since I have never waded through Horne's five-volume ARRB epic, I did wonder if he mentions the Sprague memo or Burkley? If anyone knows, chime in.

With all the wacky things that get attention, I am flummoxed - flummoxed, I tell you - that the Sprague memo and the whole Burkley things just seems to have vanished into the JFKA mist.

All anyone needs to know about Horne is that he recycled David Lifton's ridiculous body snatching theory that proposes clandestine surgery was conducted on the corpse to disguise the true nature of the wounds. That theory is so preposterous it should be dismissed out of hand. Only the most gullible of CTs would consider it the least bit plausible.
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A big "if".  Not only did Woodward know where she was standing, she described it in detail in her FBI statement: "They walked to Elm Street and stopped in front of the Texas School Book Depository building, but were located a short distance down the street near the second light post. There were standing in this spot when the Presidential Motorcade came by." 

She then went on to tell the FBI that they cheered loudly as the President and Mrs. Kennedy  went by. "Just as President and Mrs. Kennedy went by, they turned and waved at them. Just a second or two later (ie. after JFK and Jackie turned and waved at them) she heard a louse noise."

JFK began that turn and wave at z172. A second after that is z190.  Two seconds is z208.

She said the first shot didn't hit anybody in the limo. Deal with it.
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  Are you claiming that Gov Connally did Not turn around a look at JFK face-to-face? How could Connally do that without moving his (R) arm? This is what we are seeing with respect to the (R) arm. Connally is turning around, while seated, in a very confined space

Is that what you took from what I wrote? JBC didn't turn around and face JFK until more than two seconds after he was shot. The flipping of his right arm was almost immediate. It happened less than 1/4 second after he was hit.
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   Well, this "grassy slope" is getting crowed. This is the Same "grassy slope" that Umbrella Man/Witt claimed he was walking down while fighting to open his umbrella.
   If Woodward did Not Know where she was standing, how can we believe she Knows what she is claiming to have seen? Just put yourself in the jury box. Of course, I'll be the Foreman.
A big "if".  Not only did Woodward know where she was standing, she described it in detail in her FBI statement: "They walked to Elm Street and stopped in front of the Texas School Book Depository building, but were located a short distance down the street near the second light post. There were standing in this spot when the Presidential Motorcade came by." 

She then went on to tell the FBI that they cheered loudly as the President and Mrs. Kennedy  went by. "Just as President and Mrs. Kennedy went by, they turned and waved at them. Just a second or two later (ie. after JFK and Jackie turned and waved at them) she heard a loud noise."

JFK began that turn and wave at z172. A second after that is z190.  Two seconds is z208.
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She was writing a story about the assassination. How does it matter whether they ate their lunch on the grassy slope or on the sidewalk? We know where they were standing. How could she not know where she was standing?

   Well, this "grassy slope" is getting crowed. This is the Same "grassy slope" that Umbrella Man/Witt claimed he was walking down while fighting to open his umbrella.
   If Woodward did Not Know where she was standing, how can we believe she Knows what she is claiming to have seen? Just put yourself in the jury box. Of course, I'll be the Foreman.
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Pitzer's wife reported that Navy officials threatened her with the loss of her husband's Navy pension if she didn't accept the suicide verdict and "keep her mouth shut."
Pure BS. She told Dangerous Dan in a phone conversation that the Navy investigators of Pitzer's death had told her not to talk about it, period. She said she knew that those who had been at the autopsy (which did not include Pitzer) had been sworn to secrecy. She said she was 80 years old, that the Navy had treated her very well, and she was concerned about inadvertently saying something that might jeopardize her pension.

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You question whether Pitzer was ever warned to keep quiet about his knowledge of the JFK autopsy, yet even Heiner admits this happened.
Heiner says nothing like this. It appears that you're channeling Penn Jones' nonsense, which Heiner reports as uncorroborated nonsense. You apparently skimmed Heiner's e-book and didn't realize what you were reading,

I quote Heiner: "Penn Jones relayed the inaccurate information from the News-Sun and apparently added more of his own, declaring that 'Lt.' Pitzer called his experience of debriefings after JFK's autopsy 'horrifying' and that he told to be silent for national security reasons. Whether Jones had a source for any of this additional information or merely invented it is unclear. It is not implausible that he and Peterson may have shared notes, as Peterson's 'list' was almost certainly in reference to Jones' work. It seems doubtful that Jones did any research of his own in this matter; had he even looked up Pitzer's obituaries, he would have been obliged to give his correct rank as 'Lt. Cmdr.'

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Yes, the heel print could have been from a first responder, but we don't know whose print it was because the FBI did not bother to check it. The FBI could have easily checked the shoes of the first responders to determine if one of them made the heel print, but they didn't.
Wrong again, sweetie. From Heiner's book: "A partial heel print from a man’s shoe was noted on one of the four notes (Item 9) submitted by the NIS [Naval Investigative Service]. It was photographed and retained in records for future reference, but the [FBI] lab noted that 'due to the limited detail in this print, it is unlikely that it can be definitely associated with a particular heel.'"
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What you are seeing is JBC flipping his arm upward in an involuntary reflexive response to being shot in the wrist. That up and down arm flip began at Z226 and lasted 9 frames. It is the strongest indication we have of the validity of the SBT as it shows JFK and JBC reacting reflexively at the same instant.

  Are you claiming that Gov Connally did Not turn around a look at JFK face-to-face? How could Connally do that without moving his (R) arm? This is what we are seeing with respect to the (R) arm. Connally is turning around, while seated, in a very confined space
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