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It's endless. He said there was another shooter (a fourth? fifth? sixth shooter?) on top of the linen truck that was parked at the corner of Elm and Houston (below). So someone climbed up on or got out of the truck and in broad daylight with people around fired a shot. Then he got off the truck and left.



  Who says a possible shooter, "got OFF the truck"? Have you ever seen Michael J. Fox's "Teen Wolf" (1985)? Stiles stood atop a fast moving van for miles.
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   BUMP - Several excellent points made by Dan O'meara above. And Not a single peep in response. None!

Au contraire, Mr. Completely Insane Huge Gates Getaway Car Bogus Imposter Haygood Guy, I "peeped" repeatedly. Once the thread reached the 57th time of Blustering Buffoon calling everyone else stupid, pinko, jerkoff, etc., etc., I think most sane people bowed out. I said on another thread that conspiracy theorizing makes strange bedfellows, but you and Blustering Buffoon really do deserve each other. Blustering Buffoon's contributions to this thread never advanced beyond "I know nothing about photographic enhancement, but I don't see how Bart could have done this and I don't think he did" - making my "peeps" rather relevant, it seems to me. These were all after you claimed "And Not a single peep in response! None!" - oh, the shame, Mr. Completely Insane Huge Gates Getaway Car Bogus Imposter Haygood Guy.

I quote Bart:

"The bald patch is a total giveaway.

I used 4 different sharpening techniques in photoshop."

Whatever, carry on.

(It is kind of a total giveaway.)

In case everyone has forgotten, somewhere up above I report on my exchange with Bart Kamp in which he explains what he did. I don't know him well at all, but he's always seemed gentlemanly and approachable. I just used the contact form at the Prayer Man site and heard back by email a couple of days later. If you folks think Bart "faking" the images is an actual possibiliy - which I'm betting you don't - WHY DON'T YOU FOLLOW UP WITH BART? (We know why you don't: You know full-well this is nonsense, but you're having too much fun to let it go. That, and the fact that you're afraid to take your accusatons directly to Bart.) Prove me wrong and CONTACT BART!

Contact form: http://www.prayer-man.com/misc/contact/.

I bumped the last one at least twice more.
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The networks have probably figured out that the JFKA is a dead issue among most Americans and the few people who think it is still worth researching are on a snipe hunt. Everything there is to know about the JFKA that is knowable is out there. If people can't figure out what happened with the body of knowledge we have now, they will never figure it out. There is no metaphoric smoking gun hidden away that will give the CTs the answer they have pursued for 62 futile years.

There will always be a few unknown items that will forever remain unknowable, the biggest being Oswald's motive. Other than these few unknowns, nothing new is going to suddenly pop up. No one reading this forum is going to learn something about the JFKA that isn't already known by many of others. The body of knowledge is what it is. It isn't going to grow. If you think there is more to it, you will continue to be frustrated until the day you die, as other JFKA junkies were who went before us.

Have a nice day.

Reminds me of the "Last Will and Testament" of Philip Klass, editor of Aviation magazine and one of the most fanatical (and sometimes dishonest) debunkers of the UFO phenomenon:

The Last Will and Testament of Philip J. Klass

To UFOlogists who publicly criticize me, or who even think unkind thoughts about me in private, I do hereby leave and bequeath THE UFO CURSE: No matter how long you live, you will never know any more about UFOs than you know today. You will never know any more about what UFOs really are, or where they come from. You will never know any more about what the U.S. Government really knows about UFOs that you know today. As you lie on your own death-bed you will be as mystified about UFOs as you are today. And you will remember this curse.
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    I do Not believe Prayer Man is Oswald. That said, all of us can only gain knowledge with the release of early generation copies of the Original JFK Assassination Films. 

In 2018 I exchanged e-mails with Oliver Stone's technical producer Rob Wilson...He instructed me that the Wiegman and Darnell films that NBC currently licenses were originally made off the film originals...That the original Wiegman and Darnell films were scanned with the best scanning technology available at the time and the current digital files of the films that are available for licensing were made off of them...

When I passed this information forward during the Task Force it was totally ignored and no action was taken on it...This was information that could have led to the originals being located but all the main people involved in the Task Force had no interest in it what so ever...The reason for that is because, although they praise themselves as practicing the highest research practices and free speech philosophy, the research community is actually a dirty little clique of bullies that enforce protection of the clique through freeze-outs and intentional ignoring...Once they get their dirty banning it is collectively followed-through to the kill by destroying you and ignoring everything that comes from you...Even if it solves the conspiracy...Wilson could have contacted NBC and gotten the names of the people involved in the original scanning...They could have been contacted and the location of the original films could have been traced...This wasn't done because the favored members over on The Education Forum have exclusivity as their main agenda...They really don't practice what they preach...They get much more with less effort out of cheating and the moderators know it...These are the same people who are telling Luna not to obtain the 6th Floor Museum's 1st generation copy...
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As I recall, MTG has hinted at a shot from Dal-Tex as well. It's amazing with all those shooters, JFK was only hit twice. Or by MTG's count, 3 tines. Talk about The Gang That Couldn't Shoot Straight. I wonder if there has ever been a conspiracy theory proposed that he wouldn't wrap both arms around. As long as it conflicts with the conclusions of the WC, MTG will embrace it. He doesn't even care if these various alternative scenarios are even compatible with one another. If someone proposes something that is at odds with the WCR, MTC will buy into it. He seems to have no filter when it comes to JFKA nonsense.
It's endless. He said there was another shooter (a fourth? fifth? sixth shooter?) on top of the linen truck that was parked at the corner of Elm and Houston (below). So someone climbed up on or got out of the truck and in broad daylight with people around fired a shot. Then he got off the truck and left.

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Michael Griffith says there was a shooter on top of the linen truck. And that "possibly" the Babushka Lady shot JFK with a gun camera (or camera gun, whatever). And he believes Garrison's claims about triangulated fire, the plan developed by Ferrie, Shaw and Oswald that was then supposedly carried out by the CIA. And the Mob. And others. And he believes JFK was shot from the front in the head. And shot from the front in the neck.

But the HSCA acoustics analysis, which he also says he believes, concluded there were two shooters: one shooting from the TSBD and a second from behind the fence. Two shooters. Four shots.

Nothing in their analysis - which again he says he believes - concluded there was a shooter on the linen truck. Or that Babushka Lady fired a shot. Or that there were shooters from three locations, i.e., triangulation, or a shooter from the front who shot JFK the neck/throat and a shooter or a shot from the front who inflicted the head wound.

His arguments are a mish mash of claims and counter-claims and arguments that contradict other arguments. His conspiracy is a jumble of ideas and thoughts and allegations that make no sense, are at odds with each other. It's like he's playing "JFK Assassination: the Game" where the person who propose the most claims, whether they make sense or not, somehow wins.

As I recall, MTG has hinted at a shot from Dal-Tex as well. It's amazing with all those shooters, JFK was only hit twice. Or by MTG's count, 3 tines. Talk about The Gang That Couldn't Shoot Straight. I wonder if there has ever been a conspiracy theory proposed that he wouldn't wrap both arms around. As long as it conflicts with the conclusions of the WC, MTG will embrace it. He doesn't even care if these various alternative scenarios are even compatible with one another. If someone proposes something that is at odds with the WCR, MTC will buy into it. He seems to have no filter when it comes to JFKA nonsense.
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    I do Not believe Prayer Man is Oswald. That said, all of us can only gain knowledge with the release of early generation copies of the Original JFK Assassination Films.  Why for 62+ years running are the Networks NOT releasing their Original Copies and Not granting permission for early generation copies to be released publicly? I am still waiting for the Sixth Floor Museum to release the 2nd half of the Darnell Film. That 2nd half of the Darnell Film will give us a very good look at: (1) The Train Yard, (2) The Passenger Train Cars, (3) The Bogus DPD Motorcycle Cop, and (4) The Elm St Extension. The current images of these areas of interest are scant and poor.

The networks have probably figured out that the JFKA is a dead issue among most Americans and the few people who think it is still worth researching are on a snipe hunt. Everything there is to know about the JFKA that is knowable is out there. If people can't figure out what happened with the body of knowledge we have now, they will never figure it out. There is no metaphoric smoking gun hidden away that will give the CTs the answer they have pursued for 62 futile years.

There will always be a few unknown items that will forever remain unknowable, the biggest being Oswald's motive. Other than these few unknowns, nothing new is going to suddenly pop up. No one reading this forum is going to learn something about the JFKA that isn't already known by many of others. The body of knowledge is what it is. It isn't going to grow. If you think there is more to it, you will continue to be frustrated until the day you die, as other JFKA junkies were who went before us.

Have a nice day.
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DiEugenio wrote:

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This is the guy who Bart surfaced who first sent his work to Garrison. RIchard Bernabei.

Bernabei, a skilled sketch artist, was the first to really discern the PM figure and be able to illustrate his observations with distinction. He called the figure “Man in the Shadow”. Kamp is to be congratulated for giving Bernabei—who died in 1979-- the recognition he belatedly deserved.

For decades Bernabei’s writings and sketches lay like lost gems in a treasure chest at the bottom of the sea. In reality they were at Queen’s University archive. But they were bereft because the subject did not really resurface until the new millennium and the online revolution.

Jim is once again trying to polish one of the worst miscreants in research history as uncovering gold and is giving credit to one of the worst damagers of JFK research in its history...It is important to note that the reason DiEugenio is able to do this without any opposition is because The Forum caters to him and bans anyone who can call him out on his garbage claims...

What is really happening here is Bernabei noticed Sarah Stanton in the corner of the portal and made note of her...For some reason Darnell's equipment gave Prayer Man a hair part that resembled the hair part of a man and people mistook Stanton for a man...That is all Bernabei did...Jim is dressing up Bernabei and what he did with fantastic embellishment as if a major discovery was made not only by Bernabei but by the "encyclopedic" researcher Kamp as well, when the truth is all that happened was Bernabei noticed Stanton and mistook her for a man...Jim is dishonest...What he is trying to do here is establish an evidence short-cut where all he has to do is say "Garrison" and "Bernabei" and therefore he doesn't have to explain there not being any credible evidence...He has a whole website of ****-kissers to help him with that...

So while DiEugenio is heralding Kamp as the vanguard of the "online revolution" he leaves off the part where the real evidence in the last 12 years totally refutes the notion that Prayer Man was Oswald...Jim leaves off the part where he informs the readers that the "online revolution" he praises possesses an ugly feature of selective banning and censorship where all the persons who are capable of exposing what rotten lies Jimi is telling here are censored and banned, creating the false illusion that there is no opposition or counter-evidence to any of this intentionally-lacking input...The thread where Jim D is posting this outrageous dishonesty is empty and without any challengers because biased, sycophantic moderators have quietly taken care of the opposition politburo style...Jim has Iler, Schnapf, Gordon, and Simkin all running screen for him and playing dumb like they don't notice...The Prayer Man group only posts where they know they will be protected from admitting their false claims by favoring moderators...This juggernaut of censorship is so complete that there is no one to post the High Key Filter image in that thread and make Jim answer it...The forum in question is dirty as they come... 
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You are determined to cling to the acoustics "evidence" no matter what. Not surprising given that you have no real evidence to support your cause.
Michael Griffith says there was a shooter on top of the linen truck. And that "possibly" the Babushka Lady shot JFK with a gun camera (or camera gun, whatever). And he believes Garrison's claims about triangulated fire, the plan developed by Ferrie, Shaw and Oswald that was then supposedly carried out by the CIA. And the Mob. And others. And he believes JFK was shot from the front in the head. And shot from the front in the neck.

But the HSCA acoustics analysis, which he also says he believes, concluded there were two shooters: one shooting from the TSBD and a second from behind the fence. Two shooters. Four shots.

Nothing in their analysis - which again he says he believes - concluded there was a shooter on the linen truck. Or that Babushka Lady fired a shot. Or that there were shooters from three locations, i.e., triangulation, or a shooter from the front who shot JFK the neck/throat and a shooter or a shot from the front who inflicted the head wound.

His arguments are a mish mash of claims and counter-claims and arguments that contradict other arguments. His conspiracy is a jumble of ideas and thoughts and allegations that make no sense, are at odds with each other. It's like he's playing "JFK Assassination: the Game" where the person who propose the most claims, whether they make sense or not, somehow wins.
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The Davidson Enhancement of the clearest Wiegman frame came out in 2016 and should have ended the issue for anyone daring to sell himself as a Kennedy Assassination researcher worth listening to...The face was obviously female and therefore not Oswald...Once I managed to get Sarah Stanton's family photo showing her obesity the chubby-ness of the face in Davidson was obviously that of Stanton - not to mention the height that matched the 5 foot 4 Stanton was according to her grand daughter Wanda...Stanton can be seen looking down in to her purse (which appears as a black shape) in the Davidson Enhancement...That purse was recognized by her grand daughter Wanda who sent me a family photo of the purse she thought it was...This wasn't good enough for the Prayer Man people however who brought technical examination "expert" Andrej Stancak in to create made to order excuses for all this damning evidence...The Prayer Man people simply honored these rubbish claims by Stancak and ignored my undeniable proof...I was then shown the door and followed-through with destruction as a researcher...They don't stop at just banning...They come after you with personal destruction and intentional ignoring of your evidence...The Prayer Man world they created through ignoring and censorship is the same one DiEugenio deludes himself with in his quotes above...Knowing they were in trouble the Prayer Man group quickly formed the original films request strawman and stuck to it and nothing else...If they called for the originals they could avoid admitting to themselves that they had been out-argued on the already-available evidence...

    I do Not believe Prayer Man is Oswald. That said, all of us can only gain knowledge with the release of early generation copies of the Original JFK Assassination Films.  Why for 62+ years running are the Networks NOT releasing their Original Copies and Not granting permission for early generation copies to be released publicly? I am still waiting for the Sixth Floor Museum to release the 2nd half of the Darnell Film. That 2nd half of the Darnell Film will give us a very good look at: (1) The Train Yard, (2) The Passenger Train Cars, (3) The Bogus DPD Motorcycle Cop, and (4) The Elm St Extension. The current images of these areas of interest are scant and poor. 
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