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MR-

I cannot explain every witness reaction everywhere in DP 11.22.

IMHO, there is a concentration of credible witnesses near the GK who saw and smelled gunsmoke, in the immediate aftermath of the JFKA.

I contend that gunsmoke did not come from LHO's M-C carbine, as he was upwind.

I am aware of your explanation of the JFKA, but we are on different pages on this one.

However, this is a forum where different views are presented, and I welcome such a platform for all (excluding hate speech promoters).
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The animation came from a computer program "JFK Reloaded" from which I created the 4 separate POV's and composited them into a single GIF. The reason I showed each view at a stationary angle as the Limo passed, was to show the corresponding angular velocity and therefore demonstrate the difficulty in tracking the shot.

JohnM

That's why Oswald missed everything with his first shot at "Z-124," half-a-second before Zapruder resumed filming at Z-131. (Herb Huskr at "JFK Truth Be Told," claims he spotted a mark on the asphalt in the Secret Service reenactment film that would have been the closest-to-JFK a missing-everything bullet could have possibly come at "Z-124")
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JM--

I can't prove anything beyond a reasonable doubt.

I lean towards believing that Dallas PD officer Joe Smith, war vet, smelled gunsmoke near the GK, about where Sam Holland other railroad workers said they saw a puff of smoke, in the immediate aftermath of the JFKA.

Of course, they were not the only ones who saw smoke and smelled gunsmoke (gunsmoke gives off a particular scent).

It is a fact a snub-nose .38, especially if freshly oiled, would give off a lot of noise and smoke, especially with certain cheap ammos or hand-packed ammo. The snub-nose .38 was the default concealed weapon of the day.

It is notable that DPD Smith and Dallas Sheriff Seymour Weitzman both encountered a man flashing an (apparently) fake Secret Service credential near the GK, in the aftermath of the JFKA.

That's my take.

I cannot prove my case, but that is the way I lean.

Caveat emptor, and draw your own conclusions.
What about gunsmoke smelt by people on the triple underpass.
What about gunsmoke smelt at the other underpasses & overpasses.
And at the hospital.
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JM--

I can't prove anything beyond a reasonable doubt.

I lean towards believing that Dallas PD officer Joe Smith, war vet, smelled gunsmoke near the GK, about where Sam Holland other railroad workers said they saw a puff of smoke, in the immediate aftermath of the JFKA.

Of course, they were not the only ones who saw smoke and smelled gunsmoke (gunsmoke gives off a particular scent).

It is a fact a snub-nose .38, especially if freshly oiled, would give off a lot of noise and smoke, especially with certain cheap ammos or hand-packed ammo. The snub-nose .38 was the default concealed weapon of the day.

It is notable that DPD Smith and Dallas Sheriff Seymour Weitzman both encountered a man flashing an (apparently) fake Secret Service credential near the GK, in the aftermath of the JFKA.

That's my take.

I cannot prove my case, but that is the way I lean.

Caveat emptor, and draw your own conclusions.
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: Bell Film Gifs
« Last post by Robin Unger on Yesterday at 08:02:43 AM »
Robin would a clearer blowup show Bell standing/filming in front of the peristyle in the uppest part of that pix.

I will look through the images to see if i can find Bell infront of the peristyle.
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: Bell Film Gifs
« Last post by Robin Unger on Yesterday at 07:50:51 AM »
Thanks Robin, it's good to see you posting again and all these GIFs, videos and images are really helpful in visualizing the events surrounding this tragic day.

JohnM

Thanks John.
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: Bell Film Gifs
« Last post by John Mytton on Yesterday at 07:37:10 AM »
Bell Film Gif.



Thanks Robin, it's good to see you posting again and all these GIFs, videos and images are really helpful in visualizing the events surrounding this tragic day.

JohnM
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That's an interesting animation. Where did you get it? My only criticism is it shows the scope stationary. Oswald would have been tracking his target as soon as it turned onto Elm if not before. I doubt his scope was stationary at any time.

The animation came from a computer program "JFK Reloaded" from which I created the 4 separate POV's and composited them into a single GIF. The reason I showed each view at a stationary angle as the Limo passed, was to show the corresponding angular velocity and therefore demonstrate the difficulty in tracking the shot.

JohnM
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.........and smelled smoke in the GK area, concurrently.

We can put to rest the all ammo does not smoke fiction:


I don't think anybody ever suggested that ammo doesn't smoke because by definition to fire a bullet requires a chemical reaction, gunpowder needs to be ignited to propel the bullet out of the gun but as seen in my previous post the amount of smoky discharge isn't much.

But here we are talking about at most a single shot that was fired in quite a strong breeze as illustrated by the image you posted of Hill's and Moorman's dresses. Do you honestly think that in these conditions that gunpowder from a single shot would still be lingering in the vicinity of the area behind the grassy knoll or would it be quickly dispersed into relatively insignificant amounts up Elm street?

JohnM
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Do I find problems with Obama playing golf 41 times a year? I would if he insisted he needed a huge ballroom that would dwarf the White House itself for safety reasons, while still going golfing 41 rounds a year. It is inherently harder to guard a President on a golf course than at the Washington Hilton.

If Trump insists he needs a ballroom, while the Washington Hilton seems adequate, the would-be shooter never got close to him, but insists on going golfing 50 times a year. Golfing is not a security threat but not having the Golden Ballroom is. Makes no sense.

  The golf stuff above is age old Fake News clap trap. You demean yourself by willfully becoming nothing more than a myna bird.
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