JFK Assassination Forum

   The image you posted depicting the area that the Croft Photo included is wrong. Based on that image, the Croft Photo should include the Tall Stone Monument at the end of the sidewalk extending down from the East Shelter. That tall stone monument is Not on the 3 different copies of the Croft Photo I looked at.
    I prefer to address 1 issue at a time regarding the image you posted. I believe this image has other distance issues within it. Since we are talking about when a shot was possibly fired, distances between landmarks are critical.

    Roughly 2.3 seconds between the end of the Towner Film and the Croft Photo? I have a problem with that extended time spacing. The Croft Photo shows almost the end of the short wall that those people were sitting on. A sidewalk runs down the other side of that wall. That sidewalk ends at the Tall Stone Monument. This tall stone monument is close to the RL Thornton sign. The Tall Stone Monument and the RL Thornton Sign are landmarks/bookends to keep in mind. The Towner Film shows the JFK Limo passing by the stone monument. The stone monument is then completely out of the Towner film. The JFK Theorist has posted 3 different versions of the Towner Film on YOU TUBE. The 3rd version is the Sixth Floor Museum copy with between the sprocket holes. I recommend examining that copy of Towner Film. A shot was allegedly fired at about the point where the JFK Limo passes by the Thornton sign. This is also the point where the Willis girl pulls up/stops running. I believe 2.3 seconds between the Towner/Croft images is way too long. Originally, the elapsed time for ALL 3 shots was 6 seconds. Now we have 2 images showing the JFK Limo reaching the Thornton sign with an alleged time gap between the 2 images being 2.3 seconds? Really? If this extended 2.3 second time gap is accurate, we once again have JFK Assassination Images in conflict. What new?   

Dear Sonderführer Storing,

He said they weren't allowed to take notes.

After viewing the clip only one time, he had to run several blocks to the studio, probably thinking to himself, "Oh boy, I'm going to be famous!"

He was out of breath when he went on air.

He probably didn't have time to take a you-know-what and write down some precious "bullet points" for you, but if he did, he screwed that up, too.

He had to say something.

He said the clip showed the limo turning onto Elm Street.

Big mistake.

He didn't realize that a tinfoil-hat JFKA theorist like would come along sixty-six years later and base his tinfoil-hat conspiracy theory on the false assumption that Zapruder had filmed the whole assassination.

Get over it.


-- Tom

According to Dale Myers’ synchronization of the films, the end of the Towner film segment was 10.66 seconds before the head shot at Z313; and the beginning of the Zapruder film was 9.87 seconds before Z313. So less than 1 second (0.79 second) elapsed between the two films.

The Robert Croft photo was taken at about Z161. And according to Myers, Z160 is 8.36 seconds before Z313. Subtract 0.05 seconds for one frame to equate the time to get to Z161 and we have 8.31 seconds before Z313. Subtract 8.31 from 10.66 equals 2.35 seconds elapsed time between the end of the Towner film segment and Croft’s photo (if I did all of that correctly).