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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Am I Tripping?
« Last post by Dan O'meara on Yesterday at 10:26:26 PM »
Recently some nobody who had made no contribution to the forum decided to leave because other members were showing him up for the know-nothing he was.
Payette also decided to leave and sympathised with this loser
I then pointed out what a hypocrite Payette was for aggressively chasing Toni Glover off this forum.

This whole thread, including my own comments, appears to have disappeared.
What the Heavens to Murgatroyd is going on?
Why has this thread disappeared?
Can any thread be disposed of?
Why have my own comments disappeared?

Duncan, please explain what has happened.
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Thank you for expressing your reservations so succinctly.
You agree the Weiugman film shows the Presidential limo about to enter the underpass, do you not?

   I believe the timelines of the Wiegman, Darnell, and Couch Films were shortened to cover Wiegman filming the JFK Limo down by the Triple Underpass. We are talking only 20-30 seconds, but this had to be done to cover the JFK Limo STOP/Rolling STOP. This quickened timeline was also done to quickly place Oswald moving from the stairwell to the vestibule door, which is where Officer Baker first allegedly glimpsed Oswald. Giving Officer Baker an extended timeline would means Oswald would have had the time to already be inside/seated inside the 2nd Floor Lunchroom. Which would have verified the "soda pop" bottle story.
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I am not suggesting that she is looking at JFK. You are saying she has to be looking where her hood is facing, which may be the QM or the VP car.  I am just saying I don't know where she is looking because I can't see her face. 

When she turns her hood and head at z202, she can't be looking at JFK.  But I still can't tell where she is looking so I have to defer to the evidence.  She said that when she stopped running she turned and looked at the roof of the TSBD and saw pigeons flying away from it. That fits with the position of her head at z202-206.

Your problem is you lack common sense. I don't know how I can help you out there.
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Completely unnecessary. The WC provided all the evidence necessary to convince any person with common sense Oswald was the assassin.

In your humble opinion, of course, right?

PS. I don't give a shit about the wallets.

Yes, we already knew. You only care about "evidence" that points to a predetermined conclusion.

But thank you for confirming that there was indeed more than one wallet.

Going around asking, "What about this? What about that?", doesn't cut it.

Of course it does. It shows clearly just how superficial and shallow your flawed opinions are. You can't even answer a simple question!  :D

You are not fooling anybody, except perhaps yourself. But that's just my humble opinion.

Troll
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Hill heard the first shot.
He also heard the second shot.
He doesn't remember hearing the third shot as he had a lot on his plate at that moment, including stopping Jackie from jumping off the back of the limo.

More Looney Tunes.
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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: The First Shot
« Last post by John Corbett on Yesterday at 10:11:09 PM »
Remind us all again, what is the evidence CE399 was found at Parkland?
Remind us all again of the chain of custody for the bullet fragments found in the limo.

And, just to state the obvious, even to a cretin such as yourself, various bullet fragments DO NOT constitute a single bullet.

And your truly moronic understanding of Hoover's influence over the FBI is unbelievable.
Hoover WAS the FBI. End of story. What he said was gospel.
Your attempt to make him look like some kind of inept figurehead shows your utter ignorance regarding, not just this case, but American history in general.

I don't know if you are feigning ignorance or are really that clueless.

The official chain of custody described in the Warren Commission Exhibits and other records is as follows:

Discovery – The bullet was found by Parkland orderly Darrel Tomlinson on a stretcher (later identified as stretcher “B”) in the hospital corridor.

Handover to Security Chief – Tomlinson summoned Parkland security chief O.P. Wright, who took possession of the bullet.

Transfer to Secret Service – Wright delivered the bullet to Special Agent Richard Johnsen of the Secret Service.

Handover to Secret Service Chief – Johnsen gave the bullet to Chief James J. Rowley of the Secret Service.

Transfer to FBI – Rowley delivered it to FBI agent Elmer Todd, who passed it to FBI crime lab agent Robert Frazier.

Chain of Custody – Frazier and others who handled it initialed the bullet, creating a legal chain of custody.

The next time you need to learn basic facts of the JFKA explained to you, try using AI.
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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: The First Shot
« Last post by Tom Graves on Yesterday at 10:01:51 PM »
Just to steer away from lil' Tommy's penchant for Putin...when Hoover spoke that was the end of it. There was no greater authority. Hoover WAS the FBI. Don't let comrade Jerkov Graves tell you otherwise. When Hoover insisted that the investigation was going to show that Oswald was the lone assassin, that was the end of it.
Loser Nutters like Corbett, "Smith" and Payette would have you believe Hoover was ineffectual when in reality he was like a demi-god.
Hoover dictated the result of the investigation before it had really begun.
This is not a joke or an exaggeration.

Dear danny BOY o'meara,

To learn just how messed up the FBI was even way before Bugeyed Patel took over, read Mark Riebling's 1994 book, Wedge: The Secret War between the FBI and CIA.

You used to be able to read it for free by googling "wedge" "riebling" and "archive" simultaneously.

Maybe you still can.

-- Tom

PS Yep.

https://archive.org/stream/WedgeFromPearlHarborTo911HowTheSecretWarBetweenTheFBIAndCIAHasEndangeredNationalSecurity/Wedge+-+From+Pearl+Harbor+to+9:11+-+How+the+Secret+War+between+the+FBI+and+CIA+Has+Endangered+National+Security_djvu.txt
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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: The First Shot
« Last post by Dan O'meara on Yesterday at 09:56:23 PM »
Just to steer away from lil' Tommy's penchant for Putin...when Hoover spoke that was the end of it. There was no greater authority. Hoover WAS the FBI. Don't let comrade Jerkov Graves tell you otherwise. When Hoover insisted that the investigation was going to show that Oswald was the lone assassin, that was the end of it.
Loser Nutters like Corbett, "Smith" and Payette would have you believe Hoover was ineffectual when in reality he was like a demi-god.
Hoover dictated the result of the investigation before it had really begun.
This is not a joke or an exaggeration.
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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: The First Shot
« Last post by Tom Graves on Yesterday at 09:52:32 PM »
Man, you love the ruskies.
You have such a hard on for all things soviet.
What happened to you bro?

Dear danny BOY o'meara,

I'm sorry for being so critical of your beloved world-class humanitarian organization known as the KGB (today's SVR and FSB).

-- Tom

PS I was expanding my post when you feverishly posted your little jewel, so here it is, again:

J. Edgar Hoover was duped by many Soviet intelligence agents over the years, including by GRU Lt. Col. Dmitry Polyakov for one year (1962), by KGB Major Aleksey Kulak for fifteen years (1962 - 1977), by Yuri Nosenko from February 1964, on, by CIA officers Bruce Leonard Solie (look him up) and Leonard V. McCoy (look him up) for who-knows-how-long, by, IMHO, "FBI agents" SOLO (Morris and Jack Childs), probably by that former Nazi, former POW, former Communist German National crop-duster from Snyder, Oklahoma, Guenter Heinz Schulz (TUMBLEWEED / AEBURBLE; look him up) who was instrumental in convincing the CIA and the FBI that Oswald had met with the KGB's alleged Western Hemisphere chief of assassinations and sabotage, Valery Kostikov, in Mexico City in September 1963, and . . . gasp . . . maybe even by James McCord of Watergate notoriety.
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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: The First Shot
« Last post by Dan O'meara on Yesterday at 09:47:20 PM »
J. Edgar Hoover was duped by many Soviet intelligence agents over the years, including by GRU Lt. Col. Dmitry Polyakov for one year (1962), by KGB Major Aleksey Kulak for fifteen years (1962 - 1977), by Yuri Nosenko from February 1964, on, by CIA officers Bruce Leonard Solie (look him up) and Leonard V. McCoy (look him up) for who-knows-how-long, by, IMHO, "FBI agents" SOLO (Morris and Jack Childs), and probably by that former Nazi, former POW, former Communist German National crop-duster from Snyder, Oklahoma, Guenter Heinz Schulz (TUMBLEWEED; look him up) who was instrumental in convincing the CIA and the FBI that Oswald had met with the KGB's alleged Western Hemisphere chief of assassinations and sabotage, Valery Kostikov, in Mexico City in September 1963.

Man, you love the ruskies.
You have such a hard on for all things soviet.
What happened to you bro?
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