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Mrs. MARY BROCK, 4310 Utah, Dallas, Texas, advised that on the afternoon of November 22, 1963, she was at the Ballew Texaco Service Station located in the 600 block of Jefferson Street, Dallas, Texas. She advised that at approximately 1:30 PM a white male described as approximately 30 years of age; 5 feet, 10 inches; light—colored complexion, wearing light clothing, came past her walking at a fast pace, wearing a light—colored jacket and with his hands in his pockets.

Approximately five minutes later two individuals from Johnny Reynolds Used Car Lot, 500 Jefferson Street, appeared at Ballew's Texaco Service Station, making inquiry as to whether she had noticed the young white man come by the station. She indicated she had, at which time they informed her that this individual had in all probability shot a Dallas police officer. She advised she informed them that the individual proceeded north behind the Texaco station and she last observed him in the parking lot directly behind Ballew's Texaco Service Station.

Mrs. BROCK was shown a photograph of LEE HARVEY OSWALD, New Orleans PD 9 112723, dated August 9, 1963, which she identified as being the same person she observed on November 22, 1963, at Ballew's Texaco Service Station.

Mrs. BROCK advised at the time she saw OSWALD on November 22, 1963, she was unaware of the fact that President JOHN FITZGERALD KENNEDY had been assassinated, and she was unaware that Dallas Police Officer J. D. TIPPIT had been shot.

on 1/21/64 at Dallas, Texas File # DL 100-10461

By Special Agents JOHN T. KESLER and VERNON MITCHEM - LAC Date dictated 1/22/64
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And I continue to ask, "Why are you here[, John Corbett]"?

Dear Royell,

He's here to "own" the Libtard CTs.

Why are you here?

Because Vladimir Putin sent you here to cause social discord?

--Tom
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JM-

Thanks for your collegial comments (it is pleasant to have a conversation about the JFKA, rather than catcalling).

You are correct; FBI lab guys did cut some cloth from hole in the rear of JBC's shirt to test for metallics. If I recall correctly, this happened again during the HSCA. So the original hole was actually smaller, and even more-indicative, of a non-tumbling bullet.

Dr. Shaw would also say he thought the bullet hole in JBC's back was a puncture type wound, but delivered at a downward angle, leaving an "ovoid" wound shape. That original shape was nearly obliterated by "debriding the wound" when they cut away dead tissue. 

This "debriding" left the larger wound scar, which some incorrectly assumed was the result of a tumbling bullet.

But hey, just IMHO.

At bottom, I have reasonable doubts about nearly every explanation of the wounds received 11.22 by JBC and JFK. Including my own favored scenario.
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: U.S. Politics
« Last post by Tom Graves on Yesterday at 05:34:41 AM »
  This "human shields" stuff is pure propaganda. We almost never see footage of what is going on inside Iran, and then all the sudden, we see film footage of alleged "human shields". None of the news services post the source of this film footage, they just run it. It's propaganda and the News Media spreads it across the USA. This includes FOX News. The foreign influence/$$ inside the USA runs extremely deep.

Dear Royell,

Maybe the evil, evil "Deep State" (or is it the evil, evil "Administrative State"?) faked it, just like it did with all of the JFK assassination films, photos, and X-rays!!!

-- Tom
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    John - Thanks for taking the time to give this Unknown Motorcycle Cop your attention. Your going out of your way to examine it reveals the importance of this issue.
              As I understand your post above, the Darnell Film still frame showing Walthers, Harkness, and HAYGOOD together, is happening when Haygood went to secure the dock, the "northeast corner" of the TSBD. And, you are claiming we are seeing HAYGOOD, Walthers, and Harkness together, AFTER Haygood made his 12:37 radio transmission from his motorcycle parked close to the Triple Underpass. 
              With respect to your claim above, you have forgotten the Darnell Film still frame showing HAYGOOD, Walthers, & Harkness together is the END of Darnell's filming of the string of passenger train cars. When we first see the Alleged HAYGOOD on this Darnell passenger train cars snippet, HAYGOOD is standing at the very END of the string of passenger train cars. We also see Walthers in front of him at this same time. From the END of this string of passenger train cars, we then see Haygood walking alongside these passenger train cars. Haygood is filmed walking past passenger train car by passenger train car. And Walthers is also walking in front of him. (Both Darnell and Martin film this). The walking along the string of train cars goes on until both Haygood and Walthers reach Harkness. All 3 of them are then filmed together. When we 1st see HAYGOOD on the Darnell Film, he is standing in front of the very last passenger train car. At this point, Haygood is far closer to the grassy knoll, the picket fence, and the parking lot, than he is to the "northeast corner" of the TSBD. If as you claim, we are seeing HAYGOOD going to secure the TSBD "Northeast Corner" dock area after making his 12:37 radio transmission, why is Haygood deep inside the railroad yard and closer to the Triple Underpass than the TSBD "Northeast Corner" loading dock? The TSBD "northeast corner" loading dock is close to Houston St. The Darnell Film shows Haygood being halfway across Dealey Plaza and deep inside the railroad yard. He is not close to TSBD "Northeast corner" loading dock. Again, your claim is that we are seeing Haygood in this location AFTER he made his 12:37 radio transmission from his motorcycle that was parked at the Elm St curb close to the Triple Underpass. Darnell filmed Walthers at that last passenger train car, after Walthers climbed over the picket fence, crossed the parking lot on the other side of the picket fence, and then went back inside the railroad yard. Do you believe this is how Haygood got back inside the railroad yard after making his 12:37 radio transmission from his motorcycle at the Elm St curb near the triple underpass? Do you believe Haygood climbed over the picket fence, or he climbed over the Triple Underpass AGAIN? And why would Haygood take this route if his intended destination was the TSBD "Northeast corner" loading dock? This route to the TSBD loading dock makes no sense.
               On top of that, with Walthers being filmed with Haygood AFTER Haygood made his 12:37 radio transmission, you also have a timeline issue. Walthers was photo'd on the (S) side of Elm St checking out the manhole cover. In the background of that photo is the TSBD Clock. It reads 12:39. You have to get Walthers in this (S) Elm St position by 12:39.  None of this fits.
               If Haygood intended to go to the TSBD "Northeast corner" loading dock, (near Houston St), AFTER making his 12:37 radio transmission, why was he filmed by Darnell deep inside the railroad yard, close to the grassy knoll, picket fence, parking lot?         

The distances being travelled were not very far, you make out like they were trying to climb Everest!

By taking the following path from Haywood's bike to the first time he's seen in Darnell, is at the most about 60-70 yards.



And the distance for Walthers to basically walk down and cross the road was about the same. If the time stamp was less than 12:37 then we might have trouble but every established event happened in chronological order and with enough time between to account for travelling!



Mr. WALTHERS. And at that time I heard the shots as well as everybody else, but as we got over this fence, and a lot of officers and people were just rummaging through the train yards back in this parking area.
Mr. LIEBELER. In the parking area down there? West of the Texas School Book Depository Building between the Texas School Book Depository and the railroad tracks?
Mr. WALTHERS. Yes; and the discussion came up among several of the officers, "Were there any shots fired?" And I said, "Well, they sounded like rifle shots to me." At the time no one knew---in our crowd they were sure the shots had been fired though because of the reports---we heard the noise, and I left then and went back up here and came back onto the street.
Mr. LIEBELER. Up on Elm Street?
Mr. WALTHERS. And went over on this grassy area right in here [indicating].
Mr. LIEBELER. Between Elm Street and Main Street?
Mr. WALTHERS. Between Elm and Main and starting to looking at the grass to see if some shots had been fired and some of them might have chugged into this turf here and it would give an indication if some had really been, if they were really shots and not just blanks or something, and a man, and I couldn't tell you his name if my life depended on it---he had a car parked right here in Main Street---in the Main Street lane headed east, just under this underpass.


And as seen everyone was walking with some pace, it wasn't a Mother's meeting, they all were trying to find something, anything! But alas there was nothing to be found because all the action happened on the 6th floor of the TSBD and this is supported by ALL the evidence from the ballistic evidence through to the medical evidence.



JohnM
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JM--

BTW, the tumbling theory SBT is entirely dead, and I am the man who killed it.

I found this photo of Gov. JBC's assassination-day shirt:



At: https://www.tsl.texas.gov/sites/default/files/public/tslac/landing/documents/jfk-damaged-clothing18.pdf

A small round hole in the rear of JBC's shirt. Like a direct shot, no? A tumbling bullet did not make a small round hole in JBC's shirt.


Thanks Ben, I looked into this and researched what happens to fabric when acted upon with a bullet because at face value something didn't add up, for a start the hole appears to be square and the dimensions of the hole exceed the size of a 6.5 mm Carcano bullet and on either side of the hole, the fabric was excessively ragged.

Then as they say in the classics, corroborated evidence is some of the best evidence, so I went back to Dr. Gregory's testimony where he says that the bullet entrance was linear and perhaps 3/4 of an inch long and looking closely at the higher quality image of Connally's shirt it became immediately apparent that the shredding started at a point which corresponds with the approximate size of the actual wound, now we are getting somewhere.
So next I investigated the properties of fabric after a bullet passed through and as I posted, in every example the hole was far less than the diameter of the bullet and in each case we see the familiar shredding as seen on Connally shirt. Ergo the bullet struck Connally's shirt while the bullet was yawing.

Mr. SPECTER - What did the wound of entry look like, Doctor?
Dr. GREGORY - It appeared to me that the wound of entry was sort of a linear wound, perhaps three-quarters of an inch in length with a rounded central portion. Whereas, the wound of exit was rather larger than this, perhaps an inch and a half across.












JohnM
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  This "human shields" stuff is pure propaganda. We almost never see footage of what is going on inside Iran, and then all the sudden, we see film footage of alleged "human shields". None of the news services post the source of this film footage, they just run it. It's propaganda and the News Media spreads it across the USA. This includes FOX News. The foreign influence/$$ inside the USA runs extremely deep.
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More of the typical crackpot fare in the (dis) Education Forum It is a bottomless pit of fecal matter.

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