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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: How Do LNers Deal With Givens?
« Last post by John Corbett on September 18, 2026, 09:19:55 PM »
Question about Those 7 persons in the experiment firing an MC rifle and then getting a negative result on the paraffin test: Did they reenact the  WC theory proposed  post shooting trek of Oswald all the way to theater and allow a bathroom washing the face before the paraffin test was taken?

Does it matter? If the people who took the test didn't wash their faces after firing the shot and still tested negative, why would it matter if Oswald washed his face? If those people tested negative, it is established that a person could fire the Carcano rifle and still test negative which means Oswald's negative paraffin test doesn't prove he hadn't fired the rifle.
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John, I'm guessing Z145 maybe?



You could be right given the view of JBC's left hand would be blocked if it is raised at the frame. His head is turned to his right as it is in the photo.

I wasn't fishing for confirmation of by belief that the first shot was fired at Z147 but if that slide was taken at Z145 and if Harold Norman was correct that the first shot was fired just as JFK was brushing his hair, it does fit. There's two "ifs" in that analysis so I'm not claiming it as proof of my belief, but it does provide some support. Given Norman's close proximity to Oswald, there would be almost no lag time between the shot being fired and Norman hearing that shot.
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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: How Do LNers Deal With Givens?
« Last post by Zeon Mason on September 18, 2026, 09:01:51 PM »
Question about Those 7 persons in the experiment firing an MC rifle and then getting a negative result on the paraffin test: Did they reenact the  WC theory proposed  post shooting trek of Oswald all the way to theater and allow a bathroom washing the face before the paraffin test was taken?

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Well, i'll try and see if i can find the original source for it, Youtube doesn't provide lossless video for a good restoration
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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: Determining a Timestamp for Darnell
« Last post by Matt Brooks on September 18, 2026, 08:06:35 PM »
Obviously i do have Youtube, and actually, i've been following his channel, he posts amazing stuff, the problem is, he kinda doesn't list his sources + Youtube uses compressed video format so it's not 100% lossless.
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I feel like syncing them is useful because it atleast gives us sound, it's miles better than putting, well, i don't know, random stock sound effects.
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Syncing the Dictabelt recording to the films is an exercise in futility because the Dictabelt did not record gunshots.

You are correct that they didn't record the shots, but that doesn't mean that syncing the dictabelts to the films is impossible, or useless.
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I'm not very good at syncing photos and films so maybe somebody can help me out. I posted this picture in the thread arguing that Dr. Baden refuted the SBT:

https://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth1352810/m1/1/high_res/

I'm fairly certain that is the TSBD in the background which means it was taken seconds before the shooting started. One thing that caught my eye is the position of JFK's right hand. Harold Norman testified that he thought JFK was either brushing his hair or saluting the crowd just before he heard the first shot and that seems to fit with what we see from JFK in this photo. What really got me curious is the position of JBC's left hand which seems to be waving to the people on the north side of Elm St. I've tried to match this to a Zapruder frame but I can't make out any Z-frame in which it appears Connally has raised his left hand. This leads me to believe the photo might have been taken just before Zapruder resumed filming which would prevent it from being matched to a frame. I'm wondering if someone has enhanced frames from the Z-film from Z133 onward that would show JBC with his left hand raised. I think this is an important photo because of how close in time it seems to be to the start of the shooting.

John, I'm guessing Z145 maybe?


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Hi Royell,


It's Phil Willis's first slide after the turn onto Elm Street. .

  Thanks Steve. My fault. It is posted here.
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