JFK Assassination Forum

MTG--

Well, we are on different pages on this one.

Surely, there were zealots galore in the Cuban exile community, and also in G2, in the highly nationalist and ideological 1960s. Many had actually served in combat, BoP and so on.

The record shows JFK tried to have Castro assassinated many times, and Castro knew it, and Castro also publicly stated (in Sept 1963) that assassinations could go both ways.

Elements within Cuba, or G2, or G2 assets stateside could have perped the JFKA.

As for nations acting rationally...why did Japan bomb Pearl Harbor? Why did Germany go into Russia? Why has Russia persisted in a ghastly and catastrophic fool's mission in Ukraine?

Why did the US occupy Afghanistan for 20 years? Why did JFK have the Diems eliminated, thus further destabilizing SV?

I can't rule out the Mob, or elements attached to the national security state, perped the JFKA.

But...I lean to a small plot involving G2'ers of Alpha-66'ers. Just IMHO.

TG-

This is a photo of the small round hole in the rear of Gov. JBC's assassination-day shirt.



This small round shirt-hole was actually enlarged twice, legitimately, once by the FBI and once by the HSCA, to test cloth for metallic residue. The initial hole was even smaller, but unfortunately it appears there are no photos of the original, even smaller hole.

JBC's surgeon, Dr. Robert Shaw, who worked on 700-odd wartime bullet wounds while serving in the WWII Army, was of the opinion that JBC received a direct shot from above and behind, which left an ovoid wound, north-south on JBC's back, per his drawing of the wound.

Shaw expanded or debrided JBC's back wound to remove dead flesh and any foreign material, leading to confusion about the actual size of initial wound later.

In addition, the exit hole in JBC's assassination-day suit is also small and round, indicating the slug was not tumbling as it exited JBC.



I conclude the slug that struck Gov. JBC's back was not tumbling, in concordance with the sentiments of Dr. Shaw, a very experienced surgeon, with no evident axes to grind.

The "tumbling bullet" appears to be among the many myths subscribed to by LNT'ers, or CT'ers, regarding the JFKA, in order to buttress their narratives. 

https://www.tsl.texas.gov/lobbyexhibits/jfk-suit

The Secret Service killed him through inaction.

I must say, this thread has completely lost me. Isn't the dishing of the primer, as observed by Chapman and as seen in the HSCA composite, the more significant issue? It would be conclusive evidence that CE 543 was a dry-firing shell, yes? The dent could be why CE 543 became a dry-firing shell - i.e., it was no longer suitable for reloading. The dent could have happened during practice with the M-C or CE 543 could have simply been picked up someplace by Oswald. Yes, the dent perhaps could have happened when CE 543 was fired on 11-22 - but not if the primer shows evidence of more than one firing pin impact. What am I missing?

Lance, if you haven’t already read it, the article that Jack cited very early on in this thread that includes a bit about Dr. Chapman can be found at this link at archive.org:

https://archive.org/details/they-killed-the-president-by-alan-stang-american-opinion-february-1976


Personally, I wasn’t impressed with Dr. Chapman’s experiments with a Carcano rifle. One of the tests literally backfired in his face and injured him substantially.

If you continue to read the rest of the article you will be treated to one of the most bizarre conspiracy theories that I have read. You seem to like weird stuff. So I thought you might be interested.

Dear Royell,

We know CE-399 was already tumbling when it penetrated JBC's back and then traveled several inches along his fifth rib and shattered it before it exited his chest.

Given that, why in the world couldn't it have been tumbling/twirling when it penetrated his wrist, and done so butt-end-first?

-- Tom

We know CE-399 was already tumbling when it penetrated JBC's back

And "we" know this how, exactly?