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Oswald gets to the 2nd floor after 48 sec.  He stops.  What to do next?
Should he continue down to the first floor?
Should he go to the first floor via the front stairs?
Should he lay low in the lunch room?
His jacket is in the Domino Room.
Uh Oh -- He hears Adams & Styles klomping down the stairs in a real hurry on a mission.
Best to visit the coke machine & hope that whoever it is goes clean past.
They pass. He comes back out. What to do next?
He can't decide.  He will be less conspicuous if he takes the front stairs, but he would then have to walk back into & throo the storage area to get his jacket in the Domino Room.
He decides to continue down the back stairs.
He makes a start but then Truly hollers up the elevator shaft, so he goes back up.
Then he hears Baker & Truly galloping up the stairs, & he retreats to the coke machine a second time.
He walks slow & cool.
He would have been better off diving into the lunchroom in a hurry, & laying low, he knows there is no-one in there, but he knows that if seen rushing (by Truly & Co) it will be a sure sign that he is guilty of something.
He nearly makes it, another couple of slow steps & he will be out of sight.
But damn, Baker spots a bit of him throo the glass of the door & says to come back.
Truly says that Oswald works here, & Baker & Truly gallop off.
They get to the 5th floor & take the east elevator to the 7th floor.
Oswald gets a coke to look less guilty & more cool if confronted again.  And assassinations go better with coke.
The back stairs are now dangerous.  He heads for the front stairs, either forgetting about his jacket or deciding that his jacket is a dead duck.
But just in case more dumb cops are entering along the corridor he goes via the office.
Damn, he meets Jeraldean Reid as she returns to her desk.  Mrs Hine is also in the office but she doesn't notice Oswald, or forgets.
Reid in 3 re-enactments took exactly 120 sec to get to her desk, which is about right (ie to meet Oswald).
She says something as they pass & he mumbles something back.  Its not a good look.  He has no business in the office, unless wanting change for the coke machine. Its not even a short cut to the stairs. Damn.  Anyhow no big deal.
He goes down the front stairs & mixes with the growing throng in the lobby near the front door without raising any suspicion.
Someone asks him about a phone.
Ok, things aint so bad, praps he can take a chance & get his jacket from the Domino Room anyhow.
Hmmm – he can get his jacket by going out the front door & down the steps & around & entering via the Houston dock (like he does each morning), & walking 16 paces to the jacket.
Getting caught walking in shouldn’t result in getting bitten by a cop.
So, off he goes, but he gets a little ways up Houston & he sees Officer Barnett on sentry duty at the dock, & Barnett looks vicious.
So, a quick U-turn & back down Houston.  Buell Frazier sees him walking south along Houston.
No, the jacket is a dead duck.  He decides to get out of there asap, he crosses Houston & then crosses Elm.
Tippit is waiting.
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People have learned over the past 6 decade that our government will lie to us. What they fail to grasp is the government doesn't ALWAYS lie to us. Sometimes, they tell us the truth which keeps us guessing. The government will lie to us when it is in the interest of those in power to do so. When a little SOB like Oswald shot JFK all by himself, no one in the government had any reason to stage a cover up. It was known from day one who committed the act. Katzenbach knew that when he wrote his infamous memo which has been widely misinterpreted. He thought it was important that the public knew what he and everyone else in the Justice Department and the DPD already knew, that Oswald was the assassin. After Oswald was killed, there would be no trial so there was a need for a thorough investigation of the crime. His memo was internal and it was not intended to be the WC's marching orders. They were tasked with doing a thorough investigation and were not expected to cover up evidence of a conspiracy if they found it. Much of the actual investigation was done by the young staff lawyers. To a man they were anxious to find evidence of a conspiracy because it could jumpstart their careers. It was after they were unable to discover any credible evidence of a conspiracy that the conclusion was reached that Oswald had acted alone.


Yes, well said, and the staff of young lawyers was almost totally drawn from outside the government.
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JFK Assassination 40th Anniversary Short Radio Interviews With Forty Different People

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Why do so many People overthink the JFKA?

I believe that the most common reason is: Because so many people have a natural predisposition against trusting what the authorities tell them. If they would only recognize that they have this bias and that it is affecting their judgements regarding the JFKA, they might begin to see the evidence more realistically. That’s my two cents…

People have learned over the past 6 decade that our government will lie to us. What they fail to grasp is the government doesn't ALWAYS lie to us. Sometimes, they tell us the truth which keeps us guessing. The government will lie to us when it is in the interest of those in power to do so. When a little SOB like Oswald shot JFK all by himself, no one in the government had any reason to stage a cover up. It was known from day one who committed the act. Katzenbach knew that when he wrote his infamous memo which has been widely misinterpreted. He thought it was important that the public knew what he and everyone else in the Justice Department and the DPD already knew, that Oswald was the assassin. After Oswald was killed, there would be no trial so there was a need for a thorough investigation of the crime. His memo was internal and it was not intended to be the WC's marching orders. They were tasked with doing a thorough investigation and were not expected to cover up evidence of a conspiracy if they found it. Much of the actual investigation was done by the young staff lawyers. To a man they were anxious to find evidence of a conspiracy because it could jumpstart their careers. It was after they were unable to discover any credible evidence of a conspiracy that the conclusion was reached that Oswald had acted alone.
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Any straight forward examination of the available evidence in the JFKA yields only one plausible explanation and that is the one the WC reached almost 62 years ago. While we have discovered somethings that have cleared up questions the WC was unable to resolve, their basic conclusion remains sound with no revisions necessary. Oswald did it and there is no evidence he had even a single accomplice..

It was Oswald's rifle found on the sixth floor. It had his palmprint on the underside of the barrel which could only have been put there with the rifle disassembled which it would have to have been in order to fit inside the bag found next to the sniper's nest. Oswald's palmprint was also on the bottom of the bag. Fibers matching the blanket he used to store the rifle were found in the bag and fibers matching the shirt he was wearing that day were found on the butt plate of the rifle. The rifle was positively matched to the shells found by the window where several people saw a shooter. The rifle was also positively matched to the only two recovered bullets. Oswald's fingerprints were found on top of the boxes that had been stacked by the window in question oriented just as they would be if Oswald was kneeling at those boxes looking down Elm St. Every qualified medical examiner who has reviewed the autopsy materials has agreed with the findings of the original autopsy team that JFK was shot twice from above and behind him. There is no medical evidence or any other forensic evidence of another shooter firing from any other location in Dealey Plaza. These are facts.

On top of all the forensic evidence of Oswald's guilt, he flees the scene of the crime, fetches his revolver from his rooming house and a short time later guns down a cop who stopped to question him. About a dozen people either witnessed the shooting or identified Oswald fleeing the scene of that crime. A short time later, Oswald was arrested with the murder weapon in the cop killing in his possession after attempting to shoot one of the arresting with the same gun.

These facts tell us unambiguously that Oswald killed two men on 11/22/1963, yet for some people, that simply isn't good enough. For some strange reason, they feel compelled to look for conspiracies. They will invent any excuse imaginable to dismiss each and every piece of evidence that Oswald was a double murderer. Then they will turn around and dream up bizarre conspiracy theories from the flimsiest evidence or no evidence at all. Just factoids. They are chasing ghosts and have been for over 62 years. Their futility in finding no credible evidence of any other person's involvement in the assassination doesn't discourage them. They continue on their never-ending snipe hunts convinced the piece of evidence that will finally prove there was a conspiracy is right around the corner. Perhaps we should use a modern term for what drives these people. Oswald Derangement Syndrome.

Of course, CTs are not alone in dreaming up alternate realities. Perhaps the most famous was Jim Moore's book Conspiracy of One which put a different twist on the LN theory. Let's not forget our own Andrew Mason who has dreamed up a theory that requires about a dozen bizarre, improbable, and impossible things to have happened.

Dale Meyers has said it best. The JFKA happened one way and we now have an even clearer picture than what the WC was able to present. Oswald fired an early first shot that missed. There is some question as to exactly when that shot was fired because the Z-film doesn't give us definitive evidence as to when that shot was fired. It does show us JBC reacting to the first shot by rotating his shoulders to his right at Z164, just as he said he did. This tells us the first shot was fired some time before that. The second shot fired at or about Z220 struck JFK high on his back to the right of his spine, exited his throat, tumbled into JBC's back near his armpit, exited below his right nipple, struck and shattered his right wrist before making a shallow wound in his thigh. A third shot was fired at Z310-311 which struck JFK in the back of the head at Z313 causing a massive, unsurvivable brain injury causing his deata a short time later. This us the one way the JFKA happened. Anybody who believes otherwise is only fooling themselves.


Why do so many People overthink the JFKA?

I believe that the most common reason is: Because so many people have a natural predisposition against trusting what the authorities tell them. If they would only recognize that they have this bias and that it is affecting their judgements regarding the JFKA, they might begin to see the evidence more realistically. That’s my two cents…
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: JFK Videos
« Last post by David Von Pein on Yesterday at 10:36:58 AM »
I've seen JBC describe the event numerous times on a wide variety of venues. .... The CBS program was the one and only time I saw him get emotional and he clearly broke down toward the end of the story.

Here's the complete 1964 CBS-TV interview with John Connally (27 minutes long):

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If Oswald had been in the 2nd floor lunchroom at the time of the shooting as most deniers of his guilt seem to believe, why would he think he had been framed. He wouldn't even have known JFK had been shot until Mrs. Reid told him shots had been fired but she wasn't even sure he had been hit. He had been confronted by a cop with his gun drawn but wasn't detained after Truly vouched for him. If Oswald had been innocently eating his lunch when the shots were fired, what reason would he have to believe he was being framed for the shooting? Do CTs ever bother to think things through before they dream up these wild ideas?

It's a question that can not be answered since we don't know the details of what Oswald had been doing in the days, weeks or even months prior to the assassination. Who did he meet? Did he do somebody a favor? Oswald is and always will be a mystery, regardless of the opinion of some LNs who seem to believe that they know every detail about the man and the case.

I have never heard anybody claim that Oswald could or would instantly understand that he had been framed (if that's what happened) while in the lunchroom. At least not until Baker pointed a gun at him. After that, he may well have been able to put two and two (whatever those two's are) together, without actually knowing all the details.

A similar question that can not be answered is, if he was the shooter, why did Oswald even go into the 2nd floor lunchroom, after allegedly coming down the stairs, when he could have go through the hallway and directly to the front door of the building?
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I believe it was a Nova program on PBS that examined this footage and their photographic expert concluded there was no evidence of a person in those windows. The same footage did show Oswald's movements in the sniper's nest window. I saw nothing in that minute long clip that would cause me to disagree with the photo experts conclusion.


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I rarely miss an episode of Gutfeld. I record it every night in case I fall asleep before it's over so I can watch it the next morning with my coffee. I even attended his show when he came to the small town of Loudonville, OH, about 50 minutes north of where I live. Last week, was the first time I've heard him use that line. I even attended his show when he came to the small town of Loudonville, OH, about 50 minutes north of where I live. Is it possible he has used that line before and I just didn't see it. Of course it is, but I didn't get it from him and I doubt he got it from me.

No wonder you're such a [you-know-what].

No wonder you're such a [you-know-what].
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