JFK Assassination Forum

You think that her head is turned more than 90 degrees to her shoulders? How much more than 90 degrees? Can you turn your head more than 90 degrees to your shoulders? I can’t.

Why would that be necessary in order to look away from the limo and back in the general direction of the TSBD?

Just based on the Zapruder film alone, do you think the possibility that she is looking at the President’s car is excluded?

I wouldn't be saying what I am (that she's looking in the general direction of the TSBD) if I thought otherwise.

D'oh!

Robert Croft would take his z161 photo about a second later.  He said he had enough time after that photo for him to wind his film before the first shot sounded.  I guess he and Betzner completely missed that first horrible ear-shattering noise at "Z-124."

Some witnesses said it sounded muffled (which makes sense given the fact that it was a steeply-downward-angled shot which required Oswald's having the muzzle of his short-rifle inside the building).

I guess it depended on whether or not one discounted the sound as yet another motorcycle backfire and/or where one was standing or riding in a motorcade car at the time.

She may have given up looking at the President by then. The car was too far ahead and watching the backs of their heads may not have been that exciting for her.

Why did she snap her head to her left and finally start looking at the limo around Z-214?

https://www.jfk-online.com/rosemary-willis-stop-dunckel-2.gif

Answer: Because it was her dream to catch a glimpse of JFK and Jackie, and the sound of Oswald's first, missing-everything, shot at "Z-124" had distracted her for 3.8 seconds from doing that.

She may have been watching other cars in the motorcade for a second or so before z199, which is when she stops moving.

LOL!

At z201 she is probably processing the loud sound she had heard about half a second earlier and is about to turn her head in her perceived direction of the sound and see pigeons flying from the roof of the TSBD.

Yeah, sure.

Nice try, but I'm not saying she was looking specifically at the south-east corner sixth floor of the TSBD from Z-145 to Z-214.

I'm saying she was looking in the general direction of the TSBD, not at the limo -- which, according to Mark Tyler's motorcade animation, was a car-length farther down Elm Street than she was at Z-145.

https://www.marktyler.org/mc63.html?fbclid=IwY2xjawK4zONleHRuA2FlbQIxMABicmlkETFFODdsRHVIa2RSUGZJNllFAR6Zx-0JB5zBmwy-qakJKtfLfY5vcW9V2IqOrNXjP-oezkHhb-av38NlRUa-uA_aem_2d95NRPz2dpt6k_03l7iYg

Therefore, you've got your "plane of hood opening" turned too far in Zapruder's direction at Z-145 -- it doesn't correlate with what we see in his film.

You think that her head is turned more than 90 degrees to her shoulders?

 
How much more than 90 degrees? Can you turn your head more than 90 degrees to your shoulders? I can’t. Just based on the zfilm alone, do you think the possibility that she is looking at the President’s car is excluded?

Robert Croft would take his z161 photo about a second later.  He said he had enough time after that photo for him to wind his film before the first shot sounded.  I guess he and Betzner completely missed that first horrible ear-shattering noise at z124.

Rhetorical question:

Do you think she was looking at the limo in Z-201?

She may have given up looking at the President by then. The car was too far ahead and watching the backs of their heads may not have been that exciting for her. She may have been watching other cars in the motorcade for a second or so before z199, which is when she stops moving.  At z201 she is probably processing the loud sound she had heard about half a second earlier and is about to turn her head in her perceived direction of the sound and see pigeons flying from the roof of the TSBD..

   The above is based on the Zapruder Film. As is Always the case, "Consider the source".

The Z312 timing of Hickey's last shot is of course based on Zapruder footage.
But the position of Hill just short of the center of the front wheel at Z312 is based on Bronson footage mainly.

She's looking at the limousine until she hears the 1st shot at Z-157.

LOL!

Good one!

TG-

Verily, and I implied what you implied. And that implies what?

BTW, Valery is derived from the Latin root, Valerius, meaning "to be strong."

"Kostikov" is of Eastern European origin and means "descendant of Konstantin," which translates to "constant" or "steadfast".

Such a formidable fellow.

Is this your GROK imitation?