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https://drive.google.com/file/d/1JrjkAJh0eUTDFgl8LbU7y6OAhKnnPi54/view?usp=sharing

This doc shows Solie was sticking his nose into the Garrison investigation, although Solie was in counter-intel.

I don't know know if there are other docs, or many undocumented actions by Solie.

If Solie is hunting spies and moles, he seems a little far astray. Maybe he had valid reasons, but I can't see that story line.

Perhaps Solie feared G2 assets would be exposed, which could lead to his exposure as well.

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FL--

That is a valid point, that Pena would not repeat his understanding of the Shaw-Ferrie relationship under oath.

Do you have any clue why Pena would not repeat, under oath, the rather specific statements he made regarding Shaw and Ferrie? 

What did Pena have to gain by fabricating the Ferrie-Shaw friendship?
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Eugene Thane Cesar was the rent-a-security guard officer who escorted RFK through the pantry at the Ambassador on June 5 1968, when RFK was shot, and fatally wounded by Sirhan Sirhan.

Some have speculated that Cesar actually shot RFK, as LA County Coroner Noguchi has concluded RFK had been shot from behind---and most witnesses placed Sirhan in front of RFK.

However, Sirhan himself told one interviewer that RFK had turned away from Sirhan at the last instant.

The Confession: During an interview with Michael McGowan, a onetime investigator for Sirhan's legal team, Sirhan was asked why he didn't shoot Kennedy right between the eyes. Sirhan replied, "Because that son of a bitch turned his head at the last second".

Well, sure, the authenticity of the Sirhan's statement to McGowan can be challenged, like nearly everything about the JFKA or RFKA. However, on several other occasions, to a lawyer and others, Sirhan "slipped" and said he remembered what happened in the Ambassador pantry.

And then there is this nearly iconic photo:




What you see the left of RFK's right hand is Cesar's clip-on tie.

It was evidently pulled from Cesar's attire by a falling RFK.

An RFK who was facing Cesar, as he had turned away from Sirhan and his upheld gun?

Likely.

This does not mean Sirhan acted alone. He may have had manipulators or accomplices, such as his own brother, and the girl in the polka-dot dress.

Sirhan's brother bought the handgun for Sirhan, and was likely there at the Ambassador (many people described seeing a Sirhan look-a-like), and the polka-dot dress girl (evidently, a real looker) got him liquored up.

Sirhan was not hypnotized, but rather in a cult, or group of Middle East extremists.

Sirhan hated Jews, Israel and RFK. He said so with abandon, many times.

 
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: The Storm Drain
« Last post by Zeon Mason on January 30, 2026, 01:49:00 AM »
Would have been easier to plant a remote control bomb.

But I guess these particular conspirators were so determined that the Marxist Oswald had to be set up that they ruled that option out.
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Pena just said that in an outside contact report but would not repeat it under oath.

He provides no evidence....

Why on earth would we believe this.

He said lots of other stuff too that I don't believe.

fred
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TG--

What has "want" got to do with it?

Pena was a witness, who evidently did in fact own a bar in New Orleans. He is not some off-the-wall crackpot.

A bar owner would be a great resource as to who knows who in New Orleans, in that time and place.  Bar owners tend to keep tabs on customers---it is their business and trade, after all.

Why is Pena's word dismissed, but the word of others accepted?

Do you have reasons to regard Pena as an unreliable witness?
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LP--

OK.

There was a time when many people would say they saw a UFO, but did not have a camera handy. That actually made sense, and gave some credulity to some UFO sightings.

Now, there are cameras everywhere all the time...and still no verifiable optical images of UFOs.

Some people tout blurry infrared or other types of imagery as being UFOs, but who knows if such images can be fabricated by bored technicians.

The UFO-ologists are still talking about a Navy pilot who thought he saw tic-tac-like UFOs hovering over the sea outside San Diego. But no images were taken. This is weak.

It would be nice if some ordinary optical images, shot from multiple angles, of an obvious UFO would emerge. Non-fake stuff, in any words.

As for traveling faster than the speed of light---let me know when it happens. I hope it does.

The aliens can travel across the universe...and crash on Planet Earth? Really?

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LP

Yes, but there is evidence Ferrie and Shaw knew each other, from the commentary of Orest Pena, a bar owner before the HSCA.

Perhaps Pena is mistaken, or maybe he is telling the truth. 

Pena says Shaw and Ferrie would visit the bar together.

There is no word if Pena's bar was a gay bar, or gay tolerant.

As for hook-ups always hewing to hoity-toity class lines...we all know sexual desire crosses class lines the way the wind blows through the bushes.

Do you want to believe Pena?
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TG-

Sorry if this info is not useful to you.

Have you found it useful?

Maybe I'm missing something.
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TG-

Sorry if this info is not useful to you.

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