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Why are you still posting this nonsense? It has been disproven so many ways, by so many different people.

   Give 'em time. He'll either alter the post or remove it. The past being prelude.
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If he is looking straight ahead then his right ear flap moved over and is over his right eye.

1) Perhaps I need to ask Jake Maxwell to point out to me what you're seeing.

2) It is interesting to note, however, that Secret Service Agent Glen Bennett in the rear seat of the follow-up car, having heard a "firecracker," is leaning far to his right to see if JFK is okay.
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Unfortunately, I don't see Chaney's alleged head turn.

I see a headless motorcycle policeman riding his motorcycle, and I see Officer Chaney looking straight ahead after he emerges from behind a large pole.


If he is looking straight ahead then his right ear flap moved over and is over his right eye.
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DPD motorcycle cop Jim Chaney was riding escort to the right side of the limo. He was the closest cop to JFK. Jim said that he thought the first shot was a motorcycle backfire. Jim Chaney said in a TV interview on 11/22/63 that he looked over at JFK right after he heard the shot and that JFK was looking towards his left shoulder. Here is a clip showing Chaney starting at Z136 through Z153. It appears to me that Chaney is turning his head to his left to look at JFK:



Unfortunately, I don't see Chaney's alleged head turn.

I see a headless motorcycle policeman riding his motorcycle, and I see Officer Chaney looking straight ahead after he emerges from behind a light pole.


EDIT ALERT FOR COMRADE STORING:

It is interesting, however, to see Secret Service Agent Glen Bennett in the rear seat of the follow-up car leaning far to his right to see if JFK is okay.
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: The First Shot
« Last post by Tom Graves on Yesterday at 07:36:37 PM »
That does not explain what JBC said he did after hearing the first shot.  He remembered turning to his right in an effort to see JFK.

What you are lacking is evidence that contradicts the abundant, well-corroborated evidence that the first shot occurred after z186. You don't seem to want to address those bodies of evidence (the 1.......2...3 shot pattern, first shot after VP car finishes turn (z190), first shot after Croft (z161) and Betzner (z186), first shot after JFK turns right and waves/smiles for last time - Woodward, Chism, (z175), JFK reacts visibly to first shot)

Read my lips:

Except for those few (like Connally) who said they recognized the first sound as a rifle shot, it doesn't matter what John B. Connally or any other startled-and-traumatized (and wounded in his case!) "witnesses" said about the timing of the three shots that were fired in the echo chamber known as Dealey Plaza and/or what they said about their reactions to said shots.

Go with the photographic, ballistics, and medical evidence, instead.
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Where exactly do you get there were three shots? DPD Chaney is very specific about shot one and then shot two hitting JFK in the head.

(11-22-63 interview with Bill Lord on WFAA television, apparently in the early evening) “I was riding on the right rear fender... We had proceeded west on Elm Street at approximately 15-20 miles an hour. We heard the first shot. I thought it was a motorcycle backfiring and uh I looked back over to my left and also President Kennedy looked back over his left shoulder. Then, the, uh, second shot came, well, then I looked back just in time to see the President struck in the face by the second bullet.


Chaney said that there were three shots (along with a plethora of other witnesses).
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: The First Shot
« Last post by Jack Nessan on Yesterday at 07:18:37 PM »
That does not explain what JBC said he did after hearing the first shot.  He remembered turning to his right in an effort to see JFK.

What you are lacking is evidence that contradicts the abundant, well-corroborated evidence that the first shot occurred after z186. You don't seem to want to address those bodies of evidence (the 1.......2...3 shot pattern, first shot after VP car finishes turn (z190), first shot after Croft (z161) and Betzner (z186), first shot after JFK turns right and waves/smiles for last time - Woodward, Chism, (z175), JFK reacts visibly to first shot)

Why are you still posting this nonsense? It has been disproven so many ways, by so many different people.
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DPD motorcycle cop Jim Chaney was riding escort to the right side of the limo. He was the closest cop to JFK. Jim said that he thought the first shot was a motorcycle backfire. Jim Chaney said in a TV interview on 11/22/63 that he looked over at JFK right after he heard the shot and that JFK was looking towards his left shoulder. Here is a clip showing Chaney starting at Z136 through Z153. It appears to me that Chaney is turning his head to his left to look at JFK:





Meanwhile, JFK is shown in this clip during frames Z133 through Z154. JFK finishes fixing his hair and turns his head quickly towards his left shoulder. I would guess that he is checking on Jackie after hearing the first shot (which many folks thought to be a motorcycle backfire).



Where exactly do you get there were three shots? DPD Chaney is very specific about shot one and then shot two hitting JFK in the head.

(11-22-63 interview with Bill Lord on WFAA television, apparently in the early evening) “I was riding on the right rear fender... We had proceeded west on Elm Street at approximately 15-20 miles an hour. We heard the first shot. I thought it was a motorcycle backfiring and uh I looked back over to my left and also President Kennedy looked back over his left shoulder. Then, the, uh, second shot came, well, then I looked back just in time to see the President struck in the face by the second bullet.
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DPD motorcycle cop Jim Chaney was riding escort to the right side of the limo. He was the closest cop to JFK. Jim said that he thought the first shot was a motorcycle backfire. Jim Chaney said in a TV interview on 11/22/63 that he looked over at JFK right after he heard the shot and that JFK was looking towards his left shoulder. Here is a clip showing Chaney starting at Z136 through Z153. It appears to me that Chaney is turning his head to his left to look at JFK:





Meanwhile, JFK is shown in this clip during frames Z133 through Z154. JFK finishes fixing his hair and turns his head quickly towards his left shoulder. I would guess that he is checking on Jackie after hearing the first shot (which many folks thought to be a motorcycle backfire).



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If Oswald made the dent then that would have to have been with his first shot (at about) Z105.
Oswald's second (ie final) shot at Z218 was the magic bullet & could not have made the dent.

I suppose that a pointed full metal jacket AR15 slug might have made a hole in the chrome & in the underlying steel frame.
A hollow point slug would be very hot at short range (say 22 ft). And a spinning hot slug would i think possibly emit a bit of lead before it even reached the chrome, due to centrifugal force, acting on the hot skin, depending on the thickness of any copper coating (just thinking out loud).

  It's my understanding that the "1st Shot" is alleged to be the "Lost Bullet" that also resulted in the curb strike/Tague cheek scuffing. The ding in the chrome stripping would therefore be the aftermath of shot #3/Head Explosion.
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