JFK Assassination Forum

CT'ers, past-day and present, need to be upfront and acknowledge that there has long been Tehran and Moscow influencers playing in JFKA-land. It may be worse today than ever, due to the internet and social media.

To be sure, official Washington promoted the LN view.

People should keep in mind that the WC committed to the LN view, not only excluding domestic influence on LHO, but foreign.

No one wanted to know if LHO answered to the KGB or G2, and worse, possibly through KGB asset Bruce Solie. Or G2 assets embedded in the Cuban exile community.

The CT community has spent decades examining the CIA, and not really coming up with much. Some plausible deductions, but really still bordering on speculation.

Yes, Bill Harvey ran assassination programs, hated JFK and was an alcoholic. He may have been on a commercial flight to Texas in late 1963. And?

Was Iran playing in "JFKA-land" from 11/22/63 to, say, 3/1/69?

According to a 4/4/67 FBI memo from W. A. Branigan to W. C. Sullivan (RIF: 104-10310-10147), a Pravda "journalist" in the U.S., Boris Orekhov, had just told his FBI case officer(s) at the FBI's NYC field office (the one where Kremlin-loyal FEDORA was an "informant") that the KGB had concluded from "an extensive study of the assassination" that JFK was killed because he had tried to limit the activities of evil, evil monopolists in the evil, evil Military-Industrial Complex!!!

https://www.archives.gov/files/research/jfk/releases/104-10310-10147.pdf

PS Boris Mikhailovich Orekhov (FBI's SHAMROCK) was Persona-Non-Grated from the U.S. in 1970.

https://www.nytimes.com/1970/06/27/archives/us-confirms-its-decision-to-expel-a-pravda-reporter.html

PPS Orekhov is the KGB agent Bill "Clueless" Simpich confused with Angleton's 19 June 1975 Church Committee testimony "Byetkov(?)" -- Ivan Obyedkov, the Kremlin-loyal triple-agent security officer at the Sov Emb MC who "volunteered" the Department 13-radioavtive name "Kostikov" to a forgetful Oswald or Oswald impersonator over a sure-to-be-tapped-by-CIA phoneline on 10/1/63 -- in Chapter 5 of his anti-CIA opus magus, "State Secret."

"In a (sic; his) February [5] 1976 [Church Committee testimony], Angleton tells the story one more time for the next seven pages - now the name of the double agent earlier referred to [as] 'Byetkov' is reviewed by Peter Deryabin. In this memo, there is a deletion. Is this the allegation of Oswald['s] being arrested in Mexico City while carrying a picture of Leonov? It seems that Angleton got his information from Byetkov in 1967, but not certain."

My comment: This confusion was created by the Church Committee's lawyer when he mistakenly posited the above, when in fact it was KGB Colonel Nikolai "The Blond Oswald In Mexico City" Leonov's calling card that was found in Fidel Castro's wallet or notebook when he (Castro) was arrested in Mexico City in 1956, not Leonov's photo found in Oswald's pocket for crying out loud.

And then Bill "Clueless" Simpich runs with it!!!

LOL!

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=1447#relPageId=16&search=Angleton

So what? Rather was wrong. Why is that so hard to believe? In conspiracy theorist world, no mistake is ever innocent or explainable without it being part of some gigantic plot. It's sad.

Every event in the history of our planet is nefarious to Storing. It’s an illness.

How can she have not noticed the first shot?  She said she did notice it.  She counted three shots. The first horrible ear-shattering noise followed by two more shots.  Are you suggesting that there was a shot at z124 that she did not notice but counted three shots after? That's four shots. 

She?

I thought we were talking about Betzner.

My bad.

  Down some serious "Joe" and clear your head. Again, the Dan Rather description of the opening of the Zapruder Film has been Cut Out.

So what? Rather was wrong. Why is that so hard to believe? In conspiracy theorist world, no mistake is ever innocent or explainable without it being part of some gigantic plot. It's sad.