JFK Assassination Forum

So you believe witnesses can accurately say where the limo was when they heard the first shot but can't count to three. Amazing.

The three shot scenario conforms perfectly with the Z-film, the consensus of the witnesses in Dealy Plaza, the 3 spent shells in the sniper's nest, and JBC's recollection that he heard a shot before the one which hit him in the back. If you want to believe JBC just imagined he heard an early shot before the one which struck him, that's your privilege. Just don't expect the rest of us to believe that nonsense.

So you believe witnesses can accurately say where the limo was when they heard the first shot but can't count to three. Amazing.

Your stating the eyewitnesses heard just two shots and they are supposed to state they heard three?  Good point, that would indicate your proposing “medias influence.”

The three shot scenario conforms perfectly with the Z-film, the consensus of the witnesses in Dealy Plaza, the 3 spent shells in the sniper's nest, and JBC's recollection that he heard a shot before the one which hit him in the back. If you want to believe JBC just imagined he heard an early shot before the one which struck him, that's your privilege. Just don't expect the rest of us to believe that nonsense.

Actually, it doesn't. This is not just a three shot scenario. You have been proposing a three shot scenario with an early missed shot at Z160. You have not provided a single witness to this fantasy shot. So much for evidence supporting what only you see in the Zapruder Film. JBC is not twisting and turning and straining to see behind him at that point in time. JBC continues to engage the crowd the same as JFK.

Holland and Meyers understood there was no evidence of a shot. Unless you are thinking a small child running on the side walk and reacting to an imaginary shot that no adult heard is all the evidence you need.

The consensus of the “earwitnesses” was stating there were three shots but that is not what the eyewitnesses stated. The consensus of the eyewitnesses was there was only two shots. The belief that JBC heard an earlier shot is your fantasy. He never stated that. He saw JFK slumped after the first shot. 

There is other three shot narratives, maybe try one of those out and see if it makes more sense. A theory without a single witness to support it is not much of a theory. Ask Andrew maybe he has a spare one he has not used in a while.

Presumably "propinquity"? That was Garrison's big buzzword for anything to which he could make a connection, no matter how far-fetched (both suspected participants in the conspiracy owned Stetson hats and named their daughters Lois = propinquity). I've never heard it used in any other connection, but it's an excellent word that I can picture W. C. Fields using ("Ah, yes, sheer propinquity, my dear, sheer propinquity").

   BUMP.  Either provide the Evidence to support YOUR CLAIM ABOVE, or Retract It.  The above is not merely an opinion. You are claiming this car was "Released".

There is zero evidence the car in question was impounded by the DPD. Do you have such evidence? I didn't think so.

So no radio, but it might be a signaling device like the click clack toy that the 82nd Airborne and 101st combat soldiers used in the middle of the night during the WW2 Normandy invasion?

I’d rather go with the flashlight idea. This Lone Nut Cop could turn it on and off and use Morse code if necessary. It’s staring to make more sense to me now that I’m opening my mind and abandoning the narrow thought process I was using to imagine that CIA spook scenario.

Thanks Royell. 😀

I hope you keep your open mind. I have a bridge to sell you.

LP--

You ask interesting questions.

Veteran researcher Larry Hancock wrote a book recently on LHO, with David Boylan.

They contend LHO was only a wayward, antsy earnest Marxist, and they agree with you that LHO's behavior was not that of a guilty party.

Opinions are like assholes. Everybody has one.

I posited to Hancock (a very civil and smart fellow) that LHO had taken a potshot at Walker, and Hancock somewhat demurred. Given the evidence, I contend LHO at least took a shot in Walker's direction, and also likely had a ride that night.

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In lieu of evidence, you are free to speculate about such things.

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Meaning LHO had confederates.

If only there was evidence of such confederates.

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My take is LHO's immediate post-JFK behavior is that of someone complicit or thought he had been framed, or even both (he was left holding the bag). Johnny Calvin Brewer's testimony is interesting. LHO furtive behavior in the alcove of Brewer's shoe store, and then sneaking into the Texas Theater...not that of someone uninvolved in the JFKA. This, after LHO armed himself.

Somewhere in the above there might be a hint of logical thought but I can't find it.

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But human nature is not always predictable, and LHO was likely (in my layman's opinion) suffering from some forms of mental illness. He may have been cool and calm in police custody...but LHO also panicked and shot JD Tippit dead.

Caveat emptor, and draw your own conclusions.

Well, at least you finished on a high note.