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Yes, but that is also true with the SBT, as I have pointed out many times even when wearing my full LN regalia. Those who insist on the SBT pretend to a level of certainty that simply isn't possible. I was impressed myself by the pine board, but that really bears no resemblance to bone impact. The alignment of the back wound and throat wound and the holes in the clothing are a puzzle, hence the "bunched clothing" argument. ("They aren't a puzzle - they are IMPOSSIBLE!" shrieks Cliff Varnell.) Anyway, I'll await whatever the latest Orr-sponsored study says.

Below: Full LN regalia. There are several sellers on eBay. No, that's not me, for crying out loud.



You do what CTs have been doing for decades. You claim the SBT is impossible without ever explaining why you think it is impossible.
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It is absurd to think any shooting can be perfectly replicated because there are so many variables involved. For starters, you would need to shoot the same two men who were originally shot, have them in precisely the same position they were in at the time the single bullet struck, and have the shot placed precisely where the original shot struck. Good luck with that. Any deviation is going to produce different results. Elements of the SBT can be tested and have been. We know the 6.5mm round fired by Oswald's Carcano is capable of penetrating 3 feet of pine board as demonstrated for the PBS Nova program by the father/son ballistics team of Luke and Michael Haag. The also showed that a Carcano bullet passing through ballistic gel simulating human flesh will predictably tumble upon exit. This explains why the nose of the bullet was not severely damaged because it was the base of the bullet which was flattened.

You aren't focusing on plausibility when you expect a shooting to be perfectly replicated.

Yes, but that is also true with the SBT, as I have pointed out many times even when wearing my full LN regalia. Those who insist on the SBT pretend to a level of certainty that simply isn't possible. I was impressed myself by the pine board, but that really bears no resemblance to bone impact. The alignment of the back wound and throat wound and the holes in the clothing are a puzzle, hence the "bunched clothing" argument. ("They aren't a puzzle - they are IMPOSSIBLE!" shrieks Cliff Varnell.) Anyway, I'll await whatever the latest Orr-sponsored study says.

Below: Full LN regalia. There are several sellers on eBay. No, that's not me, for crying out loud.

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Not to sidetrack this too much (but I guess I am anyway), what's interesting for me in the article is how reticent Lane appeared to be in revealing what Garrison supposedly told him. That's not how Lane operated.

My guess is that Garrison's "revelations" put Lane in a dilemma. Garrison believed that Oswald was one of the conspirators; viz., had attended the meeting where the assassination was planned, brought the rifle that was used in the shooting. That is, Oswald was guilty. But it was Lane's view, from my reading, that Oswald was an American Dreyfus. He was innocent from beginning to end (the middle too). He wasn't involved in any way in the assassination. Garrison's "discoveries" then presented him with a major problem. If he reveals them then his work defending Oswald is called into question. If he refutes Garrison on Oswald, says he's wrong, then Garrison cuts him off from any inside information. Best option: show a little conspiracy leg but not too much.

Thus Lane's shyness - not something he was known for - in revealing in any details on what Garrison told him particularly anything involving Oswald.

Just to add here: Tom Bethell was one of Garrison's investigators. He later left in disagreement over what Garrison was doing. In a conversation with Lane, Bethell recounts the following exchange:

"At one point I told Lane that there was a certain irony in his supporting Garrison, because he had supposedly been retained by Oswald's mother to defend (posthumously) her son. Garrison's case against Shaw, I reminded Lane, is contingent upon Oswald's guilt since Shaw is accused of conspiring with Oswald. Lane's reply was: "I have never maintained that Oswald is innocent. Nowhere in ‘Rush to Judgement," do I say that Oswald is innocent."

I'll leave it to others to conclude whether Lane was being disingenuous or not (me: he was).

Your thoughtful comments are always appreciated, Steve. I guess contributing to Lane's uncharacteristic show of restraint could also be his wanting to stay on Garrison's good side and not interfere with an ongoing investigation.
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   Do You know for a Fact that this car was Not Impounded?  Please inform this Forum as to what has led you to claim this car was Not Impounded.

As is your SOP, you try to shift the burden of proof to others to disprove your unfounded claims. You make so many ridiculous assumptions and expect everyone else to disprove them. You have assumed the car in question was a getaway car with no evidence that it was. You have assumed the DPD had a keen interest in this car with no evidence that they did. Now you expect me to prove they did not impound the car. Do I need to prove other cars in and around Dealey Plaza were not impounded. You have done nothing to establish this car was a getaway car nor have you established the DPD showed an interest in this car. I have no burden to disprove something you have never proven. I can simply dismiss your claims as another in a long line of baseless conspiracy theories.
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Video: The "Roy Cooper" Film

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If the DPD knew that, why didn't they impound it?

   Do You know for a Fact that this car was Not Impounded?  Please inform this Forum as to what has led you to claim this car was Not Impounded.   
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: The First Shot
« Last post by John Corbett on Yesterday at 04:24:16 PM »
Actually. studies have shown that humans are very accurate in recalling salient details.  Salience is measured by the proportion who recalled a certain detail of an event. Where more than 50% note a certain detail more than 90% consistently get it correct (Loftus, Eyewitness Testimony):


Apparently, it does it very well. Over 80% accurately recalled three shots.  No one told them in advance there would be shots.
Why do you think memory is very imprecise?
One looks to others and sees what they recall. If they are all consistent then it is very likely accurate.
How fo you know if your interpretation of what Bennett said is accurate?

Because I have competent reading comprehension.
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: The First Shot
« Last post by Andrew Mason on Yesterday at 03:57:21 PM »
Yes, humans can do that. You're just not very good at it.
Actually. studies have shown that humans are very accurate in recalling salient details.  Salience is measured by the proportion who recalled a certain detail of an event. Where more than 50% note a certain detail more than 90% consistently get it correct (Loftus, Eyewitness Testimony):



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This is the part you don't understand. The human brain does not make precise recordings like that.
Apparently, it does it very well. Over 80% accurately recalled three shots.  No one told them in advance there would be shots.

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At that point he was operating with a very imprecise memory. Nothing against Jacks. That's just being human. What he provided was an educated guess, and not a very accurate one.
Why do you think memory is very imprecise?

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If only you had proof Jacks accurately remembered precisely where the car was when he heard the first sound.
One looks to others and sees what they recall. If they are all consistent then it is very likely accurate.

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Bennett was not looking at JFK when he heard the first shot. The first shot is what caused him to look at JFK. He then saw the SECOND shot hit JFK below his right shoulder. That is the only way to interpret what Bennett said without twisting his words.
He didn't have to wait four seconds. He turned to look at JFK as after hearing the first shot. Then he saw the second shot strike. That's two separate shots no matter how you slice it.
How fo you know if your interpretation of what Bennett said is accurate?   
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Yes, but at least they're pretty harmless compared to Trump voters.

Did you contract your TDS from Tom Graves?
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Not to sidetrack this too much (but I guess I am anyway), what's interesting for me in the article is how reticent Lane appeared to be in revealing what Garrison supposedly told him. That's not how Lane operated.

My guess is that Garrison's "revelations" put Lane in a dilemma. Garrison believed that Oswald was one of the conspirators; viz., had attended the meeting where the assassination was planned, brought the rifle that was used in the shooting. That is, Oswald was guilty. But it was Lane's view, from my reading, that Oswald was an American Dreyfus. He was innocent from beginning to end (the middle too). He wasn't involved in any way in the assassination. Garrison's "discoveries" then presented him with a major problem. If he reveals them then his work defending Oswald is called into question. If he refutes Garrison on Oswald, says he's wrong, then Garrison cuts him off from any inside information. Best option: show a little conspiracy leg but not too much.

Thus Lane's shyness - not something he was known for - in revealing in any details on what Garrison told him particularly anything involving Oswald.

Just to add here: Tom Bethell was one of Garrison's investigators. He later left in disagreement over what Garrison was doing. In a conversation with Lane, Bethell recounts the following exchange:

"At one point I told Lane that there was a certain irony in his supporting Garrison, because he had supposedly been retained by Oswald's mother to defend (posthumously) her son. Garrison's case against Shaw, I reminded Lane, is contingent upon Oswald's guilt since Shaw is accused of conspiring with Oswald. Lane's reply was: "I have never maintained that Oswald is innocent. Nowhere in ‘Rush to Judgement," do I say that Oswald is innocent."

I'll leave it to others to conclude whether Lane was being disingenuous or not (me: he was).
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