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And; after 2 years of confinement, Nosenko is given a short quiz:



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General Discussion & Debate / Re: Ford's Editing Backed 'Single Bullet' Theory
« Last post by Mike Orr on August 17, 2019, 10:06:47 PM »
Jerry Ford was said to be the mole for J. Edgar Hoover , in that he kept Hoover appraised as to what was going on  with the Warren Commission and where they were heading as far as their beliefs and findings . Did Jerry Ford , on his own , decide that the shot in the back below the right shoulder blade and to the right of the spine , be moved up to the base of the neck which of course became the path of the " Single Bullet Theory " ? As part of not not believing certain findings of the Warren Commission , there are thoughts that Hale Boggs going against some parts of these findings might have cost him his life when his plane went down and was never found , kind of like Ron Brown during the Clinton Presidency and of course the crash of Ted Kennedy which almost cost him his life and then the crash of JFK Jr. & his wife and her sister who all died in his plane .
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Hahahahahaha! Preaching to the choir much? Hahahahaha!

Right?

This is the guy who has created multiple threads and polls and continues to post obsessively about these "trivial details".
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Note: the title of this thread is still: “The Monster Plot, by CIA's Very Own KGB Apologist John L. Hart!”. Meaning Thomas Graves has not changed it on us, yet.

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..............So I'll just wait and see if Duncan responds to the PM I just sent him about an hour ago regarding your actions on this thread. If not, it's "all yours," Michael ... and ... uhh ... "knock yourself out"? Although I do reserve the right to "jump in" and "cover" a post or two of yours on this thread at some point in the future. "Turnabout is fair play; What Goes Around Comes Around" eh, Mike? Cheers!

This thread is about the “Monster Plot”, which was released by the US Archives in 2017. You continue to post the same old Bagely stuff that you have for years, with nary a mention of Hart (except to call him a traitor) his report, or the “Master” or “Monster” Plot. I have no copy of Hart’s work from which I can copy and paste. So it has to be screenshots. I have had to also stitch them together through page breaks and I am pleased with the results. Good luck with your complaint to Duncan.

And as regards your complaint about “covering” your posts... it’s the silliest, most childlike thing I’ve ever heard. Perhaps you should warn people that you require some specific time for your posts to fester, er, I mean, age, before someone can post without you whining about it. And, lastly, do take note that you are the one who posts walls full of Bagely text. Do you really expect anyone to read it?
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Are you saying you don't necessarily agree with Karen Westbrook's "identification" of herself and Gloria Calvery in the Zapruder film?

Correct.  But her identification of herself carries more weight than some conclusion that you made by squinting at some blurry images.
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General Discussion & Debate / Re: CT's, in court how would you defend Oswald?
« Last post by John Iacoletti on August 17, 2019, 09:32:20 PM »
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What it your source for this quote?
>>> Huh? You post here as if this was a court of law, yet don't know that basic tenet?
Look it up, 'researcher'.

Why so evasive as to the source of your quote?
 
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Oswald was the one 'tainted in some way'
He might as well have worn a tshirt saying 'Just Did It'

I suppose you consider this "evidence" too...

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Everything is arguable to a guy openly demonstrating his contrarianism by using devil's horns on his portrait.

You sure like to assume things, don't you?  Because of course you do.

What passes for "evidence" in this case is questionable, impeachable, arguable, or tainted in some way because it just is.  The specifics have been discussed at length by people who unlike you actually understand the evidence beyond faulty "recollections" of something they heard somewhere.

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It's the CT Ship of Fools that has the 'boatload full of speculation and conjecture'.

Feel free to name a specific example of me basing a truth claim on speculation and conjecture.
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General Discussion & Debate / Re: CT's, in court how would you defend Oswald?
« Last post by John Iacoletti on August 17, 2019, 09:26:39 PM »
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Here, let me demonstrate the word 'believe' in a sentence:

"I believe you've weaponized the word both here and on TAE"

 ;)

What "weapon"?  You either have reasons for the things you believe or you don't.  If you have any reasons for your "100% sure that Oswald probably did it" belief, you've never actually articulated any of them on this forum.
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General Discussion & Debate / Re: CT's, in court how would you defend Oswald?
« Last post by John Iacoletti on August 17, 2019, 09:24:23 PM »
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Why? You're the one using the drawing. And JerryO is the guy who did the drawing if I remember correctly... and am I wrong in recalling you explaining DevAd connection with the horns?

Yes, you are wrong.  Your recollections usually are.
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General Discussion & Debate / Re: First shot reactions
« Last post by Jerry Organ on August 17, 2019, 09:21:20 PM »
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Jerry,

How do the "statements" of Patricia Ann Donaldson (née Lambert) and Amos Euis in The Lost Bullet fit into your scenario?  If memory serves, what they said tended to suggest that the first shot happened a second or to before Zapruder turned his camera back on at Z-133 (iirc).

Also, which shot do you believe damaged James Tague, down by the Triple Underpass?

-- MWT  ;)

I was showing the VP and VP Security Cars.

The "Lost Bullet" shows Euins in a location that he is not seen in in the Bell Film. And Donaldson says the limousine (stopped at Z334 Z134) is about where the first shot occurred. That doesn't even support Holland's theory.
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What it your source for this quote?
>>> Huh? You post here as if this was a court of law, yet don't know that basic tenet?
Look it up, 'researcher'.
 
Oswald was the one 'tainted in some way'
He might as well have worn tshirt a saying 'Just Did It'

Everything is arguable to a guy openly demonstrating his contrarianism by using devil's horns on his portrait.

It's the CT Ship of Fools that has the 'boatload full of speculation and conjecture'.
You know if the SS would have done their job protecting the President from assassination there would not have been an assassination, so they failed and that means they did not do their job. It also was not their job to take the murdered body of the President out of the State of Texas. Those are facts that justify the speculative theory you are 100% sure probably might have happened or you think perhaps maybe sometimes but maybe never happened
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