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ok while i have zero desire to step on a mans grave , this is a Gary mack recreation so the readers viewing should be advised firstly (if they do not already know ) that the late mr mack was not shall we say above a little deception in these cases .

for example Gary mack has his oswald double merely get set and walk away from the rooming house . but that IS NOT what Earlene roberts stated that Oswald did . also it seems clear that he has Oswald leaving at 1pm , when he had barely arrived home . Oswald according to his landlady could have stayed 3 to 4 minutes in his room . while he was in his room she saw a police car pull up outside . and he changed his slacks and shirt . so time passed while he was in his room . AFTER he left Roberts goes to the window and saw Oswald STILL standing out there at the bus stop .

naturally LN want to get Oswald home as early as they can to get him away as early as they can , and they very often omit to mention that he was still there standing at the bus stop outside the rooming house . Roberts left the window with Oswald STILL standing out there .we cant say how long he was standing there after Roberts left the window but we can say that he did stand out there .of course LN do like to call witnesses they dont care for liars . in that sense Roberts so far as i have seen has been no exception .

every incident that happened must be accounted for time wise . for example the elderly lady approaching Whalleys cab and asking for the cab , Oswald motioning to get out to give the old lady the cab , and Whalley talking to her explaining that she can take the next cab . by the way Oswald motioning to get out of the cab is a strange thing for a HURRIED DESPERATE ASSASSIN to do . we can say that Oswald arrived at 1pm or very very close to it , we can say that because we have a witnesses working on her tv to get the news . however LN have Oswald starting his journey leaving the depository after 3 minutes via the front door . and i am sorry that is bunkum because it is based on a reporter being told later that he may have spoken to Oswald . and not one single witness at the time outside the building door said they saw Oswald .Frasier all be it years later said he saw Oswald crossing houston street wearing a jacket having left via the rear of the building some 5 to 10 minutes after the shots  . whether we believe him or not he is the only witness to say they saw Oswald  leave dealey .

even if we agree that Oswald arrived home at 12.59 we have to have him leaving his room at 1.02 or 1.03 . then we have to factor in that he was seen standing outside at the bus stop . and that he was still there after Roberts left the window .as the above video shows it takes over 16 minutes to walk the official route . Mack had the oswald double leave immediately at 1pm and even he had to admit the math was no good .i have oswald still at the bus stop at probably 1.03 if not later , so if Oswald couldnt do it using his deceptive time scale Oswald certainly did not have enough time if he left even later . so he was left with having to walk a different route that the Commission never concluded in the hopes of getting Oswald there even quicker .but even at that if we allow for the time Oswald was in his room and stood at the bus stop Mack still has problems .
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I agree with you. I think Wagner is wrong about this shot.

fred
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Lone Assassin author Robert A. Wagner has garnered some merit with the CT herd, partly because he rejects the Single-Bullet Theory. One unfortunate reason (at about 23:40 in the video) why Wagner thinks so poorly of the Theory is because he thinks an autopsy photo shows the "back wound" is situated "about" the T3 level. "I can't make a bullet wound go from the back and come out the throat".

 

My graphic (above left) touches on the neck transit, showing a C7 entry and T1 exit by the left-side of the necktie knot. The autopsy photo shows the bullet entered at C7, but because the photo was taken at an oblique angle, the bullet wound merely appears to be in the "back". The inset with the yellow ruler in my graphic shows the C7 wound at an oblique angle; see how "low" it seems on the "back". This is an ongoing problem with JFK researchers (more prevalent among the Kooks), who promote a "mystery" or "discrepancy" that is really their own inability to properly interpret the evidence.

Wagner joins Mark Furman in the small group of LNers who (for no good reason, as it turns out) believe the Single Bullet Theory is poppycock.
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On the Trail of Delusion, Episode 2

My guest on my current podcast is Robert A. Wagner, author of the new book, JFK Assassinated. Wgner worked for the prosecution team at the 2017 Oswald mock trial.
He offers an up-to-date view of the medical evidence.

fred

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News - Off Topic - Weird & Wacky / Re: U.S. Politics
« Last post by Richard Smith on April 13, 2024, 03:08:08 PM »
Here is the terrible, evil, racist, "white supremacist," the leftist state media is always warning us about.  When will his tyranny stop?  LOL

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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: The 3 Minute Lie
« Last post by Jack Nessan on April 13, 2024, 02:55:44 PM »
:D
You just can't get your head round the bit where Shelley and Lovelady walk by Baker in the lobby.

Andrew has it right. How about prove that or quote anything that states your opinion is remotely correct.

How far apart is the elevator and stairs?

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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: Vicki Adams: The Lost Interview
« Last post by Jack Nessan on April 13, 2024, 02:47:30 PM »
Last chance to work it out for yourself.
This is from Barnett's WC testimony:

Mr. Liebeler: There is a door in the back of the Texas School Book Depository. Does it face on Houston or around the corner?
Mr. Barnett: It is around the corner from Houston Street.

By all means explain why he does not state it is in the back of the building but instead states it is around the corner from Houston street.

Finish whatever thought you are having or what you think is your explanation for the door he is talking about but make sure it concludes with this statement.

Mr. LIEBELER - What did you do after you went around behind the building?
Mr. BARNETT - I went looked behind the building and I saw officers searching the railroad cars. I looked around in front towards the front of the building and I saw officers going west.

Not an officer anywhere near the building.

Stay focused.  Again, explain why the Houston Street Dock is not on Houston Street. Was Barnett on Houston Street?
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News - Off Topic - Weird & Wacky / Yoko
« Last post by Duncan MacRae on April 13, 2024, 11:43:19 AM »
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Conspiracy Theories / Top 20 Dead People Rumored to be Alive
« Last post by Duncan MacRae on April 13, 2024, 11:39:12 AM »
Top 20 Dead People Rumored to be Alive

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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: The 3 Minute Lie
« Last post by Dan O'meara on April 13, 2024, 10:43:07 AM »
They do not. This whole thing is just Dan's pipe dream. No part of it is reality.

 :D
You just can't get your head round the bit where Shelley and Lovelady walk by Baker in the lobby.
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