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Online Royell Storing

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Re: Lovelady in Darnell and it's Ramifications.
« Reply #294 on: October 04, 2025, 01:42:15 AM »
I've often suspected that the guy in the Alyea film who's standing in the background and who turns his head towards the window and back is Lovelady, standing on a pallet or something.



   Bump regarding previous claim(s).

Online Tom Graves

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Re: Lovelady in Darnell and it's Ramifications.
« Reply #295 on: October 04, 2025, 01:49:52 AM »
Bump regarding previous claim(s).

That dude must have been one of the oodles and gobs of "Joe Blows" the police let into the TSBD right after the assassination as a really, really early promotional gig for The Sixth Floor Museum, huh?
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Re: Lovelady in Darnell and it's Ramifications.
« Reply #296 on: October 04, 2025, 05:20:59 AM »


  So Officer Baker thinks there is an active shooter inside the TSBD and he encounters 2 men near the elevator/1st floor exit and he does not confront them? That is strange. Extremely strange.

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Re: Lovelady in Darnell and it's Ramifications.
« Reply #297 on: October 04, 2025, 09:11:25 AM »
So, Officer Baker thinks there is an active shooter inside the TSBD and he encounters two men near the elevator/1st floor exit and he does not confront them? That is strange. Extremely strange.

He thought the shots had come from the roof. If he and Truly entered the front door about 30 seconds after the final shot, he probably figured those two guys (who weren't together and one of whom was sitting) couldn't have been on the roof and gotten down to the first floor so quickly.

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Re: Lovelady in Darnell and it's Ramifications.
« Reply #298 on: October 04, 2025, 10:21:25 AM »


For the longest time I didn't believe it was Lovelady (I thought it might be the elusive Jack Dougherty) because this guy seemed really tall, was wearing what appeared to be a less white shirt over a very white t-shirt and the hairline and head shape didn't seem to match with Lovelady from the Martin film (I think the Martin image is somehow distorted):



However, when I compared the image to a Lovelady mugshot it became clear that this man is, indeed, Lovelady:



I believe the Alyea footage shows Fritz in the foreground standing in the area where the rifle was found. It is just after the discovery of the rifle. Off to one side is Lt. Day dusting the rifle for fingerprints. My guess is that it's taken somewhere between 13:40 and 13:50 PM, shortly before Truly comes up from the first floor to tel  Fritz that Oswald is missing.
It would be good to ID the detective that Fritz is talking to, it might help with a more certain timestamp.
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Re: Lovelady in Darnell and it's Ramifications.
« Reply #299 on: October 04, 2025, 07:15:53 PM »
Actually , it was not until about 70 secs post shots that Baker and Truly   encounter the 2 mystery white men “loitering” around the rear elevators.

So like Storing ? Why did not Truly  ID these men to Baker as TSBD employees?

Imo, if  Truly did not recognize 2 men at the rear elevators as TSBD employees then surely he would have questioned their presence there would he not? 

This points therefore to those 2 men being Lovelady and Shelley and it was at this 70 sec post shots encounter when Truly told Lovelady to guard  the elevators while Truly  and Baker prepared to start ascending the staircases.

But then there is Luke Mooney arriving next,  so Mooney should have encountered Lovelady guarding the elevators should he not ?

And Luke Mooney had an encounter with Victoria Adams at the rear elevator on the 2nd floor which  was stuck because the power was off and he couldn’t operate the elevator. So Mooney starts ascending the stairs and lo and behold he counters 2 plainclothes men coming down the stairs!

Meanwhile, where the heck are Shelley and Lovelady if they were supposed to be guarding the elevators when Mooney gets to the rear elevator on the 2nd floor?

I think the solution must be that Mooney went up to the 2nd floor using the FRONT staircase at the front lobby entrance, thus he did not make  contact with Shelley or Lovelady if they were still guarding the rear elevators on the 1st floor.

I think that Victoria Adams after standing outside in front of TSBD for about 2 minutes decided to go back into TSBD and return to the 4th floor office. Not sure which way she went though, however which ever way, she runs into Mooney on the 2nd floor at the rear elevators.


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Re: Lovelady in Darnell and it's Ramifications.
« Reply #300 on: October 04, 2025, 07:21:17 PM »
I think the Martin image is somehow distorted.


The Martin image isn't distorted, Lovelady's face is distorted because he's exhaling cigarette smoke in-a-smoke-circle-creating or a "I wanna see the little puffs leave my mouth" kinda way.
« Last Edit: October 04, 2025, 07:22:11 PM by Tom Graves »