Lovelady in Darnell and it's Ramifications.

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Online Tom Graves

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Re: Lovelady in Darnell and it's Ramifications.
« Reply #308 on: October 04, 2025, 09:18:06 PM »
Officer Baker's conduct inside the TSBD was inconsistent to put it mildly. But there's also his preamble. Baker claims that pigeons led him to believe that there was an active shooter atop/inside the TSBD, yet he does Not ride his motorcycle right up to the front steps. He does Not choose the fastest path to enter a building containing an active shooter. Baker instead rides his motorcycle around the corner, parks his bike at the curb, and then runs up Elm St and then across the Elm St Ext. This "course of action" in the face of an active shooter just does not fit this situation. And then there's Officer Baker, prior to his WC Q/A, going through 3 dress rehearsals with the WC Attorney regarding the tick-tock of his entering the TSBD. That challenges the smell test.

Dear Comrade Inspector Clouseau,

It's a PITY that Officer Baker was NOT as LOGICAL as you ALWAYS ARE when YOU'RE under intense PRESSURE in a dynamic SITUATION!!!

-- Tom

PS Hey! Maybe he was part of THE HUGE GATES CONSPIRACY, or maybe the EVIL, EVIL CIA forced him to COLLUDE in its evil, evil COVERUP!!!

Boy oh Boy oh Boy -- That dirty, rotten DPD Officer Marion Baker!!!

(And I bet he was a XXXXXX-LOVIN' LIBTARD DEMOCRAT, too!!!)
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Re: Lovelady in Darnell and it's Ramifications.
« Reply #309 on: October 04, 2025, 09:29:02 PM »
Maybe Baker didn’t want to accidentally run over all those people with his motorcycle?

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Re: Lovelady in Darnell and it's Ramifications.
« Reply #310 on: October 04, 2025, 10:52:26 PM »
Maybe Baker didn’t want to accidentally run over all those people with his motorcycle?

   There were people stretched all down Elm St where he parked the motorcycle. The Lovelady and Shelley characters were not only able to walk cross the Elm St Ext there at the corner, they were able to walk right down the middle of that street. Wide open. Just my opinion, but Baker fully turning the corner makes his then reversing course and running toward the TSBD appear to be a 2nd thought. Maybe somebody yelled and/or pointed toward the TSBD? Something made Baker change his course. This is why I bring up Baker's 3 Dress Rehearsals. Those 3 dress rehearsals were Not restricted to a "silent" movie. Baker's performance is outta sync with his lines.

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Re: Lovelady in Darnell and it's Ramifications.
« Reply #311 on: October 04, 2025, 11:02:26 PM »
There were people stretched all down Elm St where he parked the motorcycle. The Lovelady and Shelley characters were not only able to walk cross the Elm St Ext there at the corner, they were able to walk right down the middle of that street. Wide open. Just my opinion, but Baker fully turning the corner makes his then reversing course and running toward the TSBD appear to be a 2nd thought. Maybe somebody yelled and/or pointed toward the TSBD? Something made Baker change his course. This is why I bring up Baker's 3 Dress Rehearsals. Those 3 dress rehearsals were Not restricted to a "silent" movie. Baker's performance is outta sync with his lines.

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« Reply #312 on: October 06, 2025, 01:20:25 AM »

  So Officer Baker thinks there is an active shooter inside the TSBD and he encounters 2 men near the elevator/1st floor exit and he does not confront them? That is strange. Extremely strange.

There were people in the lobby when he entered the building but he didn't question them.
There were people on the fourth floor but he didn't question them.
Two unarmed men on the first floor are not going to raise any suspicions.
Maybe it was at this time that Truly told Shelley to guard the elevators, showing Baker that the two white men worked there. Maybe.
What can't be disputed is that Baker reports seeing two white men in this area seconds after the shooting, and Vicki Adams reports Shelley and Lovelady also being in that same area seconds after the shooting.
Go figure.

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Re: Lovelady in Darnell and it's Ramifications.
« Reply #313 on: October 07, 2025, 02:50:14 PM »
There were people in the lobby when he entered the building but he didn't question them.
There were people on the fourth floor but he didn't question them.
Two unarmed men on the first floor are not going to raise any suspicions.
Maybe it was at this time that Truly told Shelley to guard the elevators, showing Baker that the two white men worked there. Maybe.
What can't be disputed is that Baker reports seeing two white men in this area seconds after the shooting, and Vicki Adams reports Shelley and Lovelady also being in that same area seconds after the shooting.
Go figure.

   If you look at Officer Baker's WC Testimony, he was Not Sure that shots had been fired from the TSBD. He also thought the Dal Tek building was the source of the shots. That said, Baker does admit to having his gun drawn when going up the stairwell behind Truly and still having that gun drawn when confronting Oswald inside the 2nd floor lunchroom. Yet, he does not "pat" Oswald down or anyone else inside the TSBD for that matter. For a 7-8 year DPD vet, Baker's actions during his time approaching the TSBD on his motorcycle and once inside the TSBD on 11/22/63 as he describes them are totally inconsistent. 
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Online Dan O'meara

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Re: Lovelady in Darnell and it's Ramifications.
« Reply #314 on: October 08, 2025, 01:27:56 AM »
   If you look at Officer Baker's WC Testimony, he was Not Sure that shots had been fired from the TSBD. He also thought the Dal Tek building was the source of the shots. That said, Baker does admit to having his gun drawn when going up the stairwell behind Truly and still having that gun drawn when confronting Oswald inside the 2nd floor lunchroom. Yet, he does not "pat" Oswald down or anyone else inside the TSBD for that matter. For a 7-8 year DPD vet, Baker's actions during his time approaching the TSBD on his motorcycle and once inside the TSBD on 11/22/63 as he describes them are totally inconsistent.

There's no reason for Baler to pat Oswald down because Truly vouched for him.
As I say, the important point is that around 50 - 70 seconds after the assassination both Baker and Adams report two white men in the vicinity of the elevators.
These two white men are Shelley and Lovelady.