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Re: How exactly did the shooter get down from the sixth floor?
« Reply #48 on: May 06, 2025, 01:36:55 AM »
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Bookhout attended the same interrogation session and said Oswald said he ate lunch alone and saw Norman and Jarman.  And as it turned out, Norman and Jarman were walking together right past the domino room just minutes before the assassination.


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Bookout missed at least an hour and Oswald was telling one provable lie after another.

Mr. BOOKHOUT - I believe he was taken directly into Captain Fritz' office and the interview started at that time with Captain Fritz, and two homicide officers.
Mr. STERN - Were you present?
Mr. BOOKHOUT - I was not in the office at that time. I called our office, advised them he had been brought in, and that the interview was starting and shortly thereafter Mr. Shanklin, our SAC called back and said the Bureau wanted the agents present in the interview and that Hosty, James P. Hosty, I believe was ,to sit in on the interview, and I was to also be present with Hosty. So, at that time, we asked Captain Fritz to sit in on the interview, and that was approximately 3:15 p.m.


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Norman and Jarman were walking together right past the domino room just minutes before the assassination.

WOW, talking about "selective rhetoric", no where does this Bookout report say that Oswald saw Junior and the short fellow "just minutes before the assassination" but it does say that they walked through the room and we know for a fact that they didn't walk through the Domino room! Another Oswald fabrication. Oswald had no alibi because Oswald was on the 6th floor with Oswald's rifle assassinating the President!



Oswald tells U.S. Secret Service Kelley that he ate lunch with two coloured boys. "Selective rhetoric" indeed! LOL This is why you can never trust a devout Conspiracy Theorist because they never tell the WHOLE story and just pick and choose whatever evidence fits their worldview.



That's why it's so easy to be a CT because their fall back of everyone lied except who the CT's say, said the truth, fits every Conspiracy scenario. Whereas LNers are just so damn well honest and take the evidence as it comes and analyse it with pinpoint critical thinking skills.

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Re: How exactly did the shooter get down from the sixth floor?
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Offline Martin Weidmann

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Re: How exactly did the shooter get down from the sixth floor?
« Reply #49 on: May 06, 2025, 01:49:56 AM »
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Bookout missed at least an hour and Oswald was telling one provable lie after another.

Mr. BOOKHOUT - I believe he was taken directly into Captain Fritz' office and the interview started at that time with Captain Fritz, and two homicide officers.
Mr. STERN - Were you present?
Mr. BOOKHOUT - I was not in the office at that time. I called our office, advised them he had been brought in, and that the interview was starting and shortly thereafter Mr. Shanklin, our SAC called back and said the Bureau wanted the agents present in the interview and that Hosty, James P. Hosty, I believe was ,to sit in on the interview, and I was to also be present with Hosty. So, at that time, we asked Captain Fritz to sit in on the interview, and that was approximately 3:15 p.m.


WOW, talking about "selective rhetoric", no where does this Bookout report say that Oswald saw Junior and the short fellow "just minutes before the assassination" but it does say that they walked through the room and we know for a fact that they didn't walk through the Domino room! Another Oswald fabrication. Oswald had no alibi because Oswald was on the 6th floor with Oswald's rifle assassinating the President!



Oswald tells U.S. Secret Service Kelley that he ate lunch with two coloured boys. "Selective rhetoric" indeed! LOL This is why you can never trust a devout Conspiracy Theorist because they never tell the WHOLE story and just pick and choose whatever evidence fits their worldview.



That's why it's so easy to be a CT because their fall back of everyone lied except who the CT's say, said the truth, fits every Conspiracy scenario. Whereas LNers are just so damn well honest and take the evidence as it comes and analyse it with pinpoint critical thinking skills.

JohnM

Why do you keep claiming that Oswald lied about anything, when all you have are non verbatim reports, written days later from memory and vague notes?

Even the reports conflict on key points with each other. He either said he "had eaten lunch in the lunch room" and "saw to Negro employees walking through the room" or he said he "ate his lunch with the colored boys".

Both can't be true, so which one is it?

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Re: How exactly did the shooter get down from the sixth floor?
« Reply #50 on: May 06, 2025, 02:36:34 AM »
Why do you keep claiming that Oswald lied about anything, when all you have are non verbatim reports, written days later from memory and vague notes?

Even the reports conflict on key points with each other. He either said he "had eaten lunch in the lunch room" and "saw to Negro employees walking through the room" or he said he "ate his lunch with the colored boys".

Both can't be true, so which one is it?

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Both can't be true, so which one is it?

You are always thinking in extremes, and of course there is two ways of looking at everything, it doesn't matter how thin my pancakes are, there is always two sides.

Now, even though Oswald clearly lied, he says ate alone but in the same room he was with Junior and Norman therefore Oswald ate lunch with the two negro men, it doesn't even mean that they were sitting together, for instance I was at a film premier and in the same theatre was the movie star who appeared in the movie, so is it wrong of me to say I saw the movie with the movie star? Of course not!

Another problem for Oswald's alibi is that he assumed that even though Junior and Norman were friends, on this particular day they didn't eat together in the Domino room! Ouch!

BTW how would the interrogators know at this stage to make up a story that Junior and Norman were even friends who hung out together, as seen by the two negro men arriving together at the fifth floor windows directly below Oswald with Oswald's rifle? See how intelligent deductive reasoning beats CT's who make dumbass assumptions!

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Re: How exactly did the shooter get down from the sixth floor?
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Re: How exactly did the shooter get down from the sixth floor?
« Reply #51 on: May 06, 2025, 03:10:19 AM »
  I believe there is an issue with the "Lunch Room" and the "Domino Room". I think when someone says "Lunch Room", that is Not the same room as the "Domino Room". Have you ever looked at the photos of the Domino Room? That "room" with that couch and a table jammed inside in it, is not much larger than a Phone Booth. And Nobody "walks through" the Domino Room. It's "1 way in and 1 way out". There was Not even a sink or Pop/Vending machines inside the "Domino Room". What alleged "Lunch Room" does Not have a sink in it? This is why Oswald had to buy his Pop/Coke from inside the 2nd Floor Lunch Room.
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Re: How exactly did the shooter get down from the sixth floor?
« Reply #52 on: May 06, 2025, 03:16:22 AM »
You are always thinking in extremes, and of course there is two ways of looking at everything, it doesn't matter how thin my pancakes are, there is always two sides.

Now, even though Oswald clearly lied, he says ate alone but in the same room he was with Junior and Norman therefore Oswald ate lunch with the two negro men, it doesn't even mean that they were sitting together, for instance I was at a film premier and in the same theatre was the movie star who appeared in the movie, so is it wrong of me to say I saw the movie with the movie star? Of course not!

Another problem for Oswald's alibi is that he assumed that even though Junior and Norman were friends, on this particular day they didn't eat together in the Domino room! Ouch!

BTW how would the interrogators know at this stage to make up a story that Junior and Norman were even friends who hung out together, as seen by the two negro men arriving together at the fifth floor windows directly below Oswald with Oswald's rifle? See how intelligent deductive reasoning beats CT's who make dumbass assumptions!

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You are always thinking in extremes, and of course there is two ways of looking at everything, it doesn't matter how thin my pancakes are, there is always two sides.

So, why are you always looking at just one side?

And no, there are no two ways of looking at everything, whatever that means. Oswald either said something or he didn't.

Now, even though Oswald clearly lied, he says ate alone but in the same room he was with Junior and Norman therefore Oswald ate lunch with the two negro men, it doesn't even mean that they were sitting together,

Not only are you all over the place, as per usual, but you are also missing the point completely. If two reports by Oswald's interrogators say something different it means that neither report is reliable.

Another problem for Oswald's alibi is that he assumed that even though Junior and Norman were friends, on this particular day they didn't eat together in the Domino room! Ouch!

Where does it say that Oswald assumed that?

BTW how would the interrogators know at this stage to make up a story that Junior and Norman were even friends who hung out together,

Why would the interrogators have to know anything about Junior and Norman? We know for a fact that they entered the TSBD at the backdoor and made their way to the elevators just minutes before the shots were fired.

as seen by the two negro men arriving together at the fifth floor windows directly below Oswald with Oswald's rifle?

How in the world could somebody on the 6th floor in the sniper's nest see two negro men arriving at the 5th floor window?

See how intelligent deductive reasoning beats CT's who make dumbass assumptions!

This is what you call "intelligent deductive reasoning"?  Wow, that just made my day. Could you be even more hilarious?
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Re: How exactly did the shooter get down from the sixth floor?
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Re: How exactly did the shooter get down from the sixth floor?
« Reply #53 on: May 06, 2025, 03:20:29 AM »
I believe there is an issue with the "Lunch Room" and the "Domino Room". I think when someone says "Lunch Room", that is Not the same room as the "Domino Room". Have you ever looked at the photos of the Domino Room? That "room" with that couch and a table jammed inside in it, is not much larger than a Phone Booth. And Nobody "walks through" the Domino Room. It's "1 way in and 1 way out". There was Not even a sink or Pop/Vending machines inside the "Domino Room". What alleged "Lunch Room" does Not have a sink in it? This is why Oswald had to buy his Pop/Coke from inside the 2nd Floor Lunch Room.

Storing,

Why did Oswald "go up" to the second floor (right when JFK and Jackie were passing by the TSBD!!!) to buy a COKE when the machine with his favorite soft drink, DR. PEPPER, was on the first floor?

Hmm?
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Re: How exactly did the shooter get down from the sixth floor?
« Reply #54 on: May 06, 2025, 03:47:37 AM »

  Where on the 1st FLOOR is there a machine with Dr Pepper?

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Re: How exactly did the shooter get down from the sixth floor?
« Reply #55 on: May 06, 2025, 03:55:23 AM »
You are always thinking in extremes, and of course there is two ways of looking at everything, it doesn't matter how thin my pancakes are, there is always two sides.

So, why are you always looking at just one side?

And no, there are no two ways of looking at everything, whatever that means. Oswald either said something or he didn't.

Now, even though Oswald clearly lied, he says ate alone but in the same room he was with Junior and Norman therefore Oswald ate lunch with the two negro men, it doesn't even mean that they were sitting together,

Not only are you all over the place, as per usual, but you are also missing the point completely. If two reports by Oswald's interrogators say something different it means that neither report is reliable.


As I clearly pointed out both reports are true, therefore totally reliable.

Why would they have to or even need to fabricate some narrative where at the time they wouldn't have a clue about the social dynamics within the Depository?

Oswald's false alibi said he ate alone and that there were two men with him and that's why Kelley and Bookout's reports NEVER contradicted each other! You keep looking for flaws that don't exist and then you make up some BS self serving narrative. BTW, Oswald's assumption that the two men had lunch together in the Domino Room was proven false, that what happens when you make assumptions you make an ass of yourself! LOL!

Don't take it personally but you simply lack deductive reasoning skills, but thanks for your participation.

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