How exactly did the shooter get down from the sixth floor?

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Online Royell Storing

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Re: How exactly did the shooter get down from the sixth floor?
« Reply #42 on: May 04, 2025, 11:52:54 PM »

  (3) You can hear people on the stairwell. That stairwell was old and creaky. A possible shooter coming down that stairwell could exit the stairwell at the moment he heard someone else on it below him. That stairwell is the quickest way DOWN to the basement and then either walking out the Huge Gates into the Elm St Ext or simply walking straight on through to the loading dock and then out into the railroad yard. Considering that ALL the buildings that previously stretched down the Elm St Ext have been torn down, most people are Not aware that ALL of those buildings and the TSBD were Connected. You could easily walk from one building to the other.

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Re: How exactly did the shooter get down from the sixth floor?
« Reply #43 on: May 05, 2025, 10:00:26 PM »
"Martin" from "Europe" still can't follow simple logic.  If the evidence places Oswald on the 6th floor at 12:30 when the shots were fired AS IT DOES

Except it doesn't.  Flawed premises lead to invalid conclusions.

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Re: How exactly did the shooter get down from the sixth floor?
« Reply #44 on: May 05, 2025, 10:18:25 PM »
It's pretty funny that 60+ years later that the CT's still haven't come up with a viable alternative to the rock solid evidence of the official version.

"Rock solid".  LOL.

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Oswald was a loon who ffs defected to Russia at the height of the cold war and when he wasn't accepted by Russia, Oswald slit his wrists, who the heck, besides someone who's verifiably insane, does that?

Cool insult, bro.  What kind of verifiably insane person masquerades as a 229-year-old "eccentric" member of the British parliament?

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Oswald also attempted to assassinate General Walker, further proving he was a murderous nutcase!

LOL.

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Oswald's rifle with his prints was discovered on the same floor as eyewitnesses saw a man with a rifle.

What happened to the slender man seen on the 6th floor with a rifle, how did HE escape? -crickets-

Oswald's relatively fresh prints were discovered in the sniper's nest and most importantly Oswald's prints which were oriented down Elm street were left on the perfectly sized rifle rest box which was moved half way across the 6th floor.

"Oswald's rifle".  LOL.
"fresh prints".  LOL.
"oriented down Elm street".  LOL.
"perfectly sized rifle rest".  LOL.
"moved half way across the 6th floor".  LOL.

Only Oswald is required to be on the second floor within 75-90 seconds of the shots without being seen or heard by any of the 12-14 witnesses along the way.  That doesn't apply to any other slender man, bald-spotted man, man with a brown sport coat, etc.

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Oswald being on the move walking in a direction away from the stairs 90 seconds after the assassination while there is commotion and bedlam happening just outside, and just to get a coke is simply illogical! But Oswald coming down from the 6th floor and quickly hiding in the lunchroom after hearing Truly shout up the elevator shaft is perfectly logical.

"logic".  LOL.

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After hours of interrogation, Oswald slipped up.

Mr. HOLMES. ... Then he said when all this commotion started, "I just went on downstairs." And he didn't say whether he took the elevator or not. He said, "I went down, and as I started to go out and see what it was all about,

Holmes.  LOL.

"But he went downstairs, and as he went out the front, it seems as though he did have a coke with him, or he stopped at the coke machine, or somebody else was trying to get a coke, but there was a coke involved. He mentioned something about a coke."

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Oswald's alibi where he says he had lunch with Junior never happened.

Bookhout attended the same interrogation session and said Oswald said he ate lunch alone and saw Norman and Jarman.  And as it turned out, Norman and Jarman were walking together right past the domino room just minutes before the assassination.

But in the usual "Mytton" fashion, you offer up selective rhetoric.
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Re: How exactly did the shooter get down from the sixth floor?
« Reply #45 on: May 05, 2025, 10:30:44 PM »
A shooter is not going to linger on the 6th floor after assassinating the president and "hide in plain sight" knowing the entire law enforcement establishment is descending on the building in moments.  That is laughable.  His only chance is to escape quickly before the building is locked down and the ONLY way to do so is down the stairs.  Multiple witnesses place a shooter on the 6th floor either by seeing the rifle pointing out the window or the folks in the floor below hearing it fired directly above their heads.  There is zero doubt that someone was on the 6th floor with a rifle at 12:30 and went down the stairs unnoticed in the moments after the assassination.  The facts demonstrate not only that it was possible to get down the stairs unnoticed but that is actually what must have happened.

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Re: How exactly did the shooter get down from the sixth floor?
« Reply #46 on: May 05, 2025, 11:05:15 PM »
  The TSBD was NEVER Secure. Those HUGE GATES were Not Secure. You can see they are Open/Ajar on the "MARTIN FILM" as Amos Euins sped down the Elm Ext on the back of DPD Officer Harkness 3 Wheel Motorcycle. Those Huge Gates are still OPEN/Ajar when the "3 TRAMPS PHOTO" was snapped as the Tramps were escorted by DPD down the Elm Ext. The Martin footage showing Euins is roughly 5 minutes following the Kill Shot. The 3 TRAMPS PHOTO was snapped somewhere between 1:45-2:00 hrs After the Kill Shot. The TSBD was Continually Not Secure from the Kill Shot up to roughly 2 hrs later.
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Re: How exactly did the shooter get down from the sixth floor?
« Reply #47 on: May 05, 2025, 11:22:03 PM »
A shooter is not going to linger on the 6th floor after assassinating the president and "hide in plain sight" knowing the entire law enforcement establishment is descending on the building in moments.  That is laughable.  His only chance is to escape quickly before the building is locked down and the ONLY way to do so is down the stairs.  Multiple witnesses place a shooter on the 6th floor either by seeing the rifle pointing out the window or the folks in the floor below hearing it fired directly above their heads.  There is zero doubt that someone was on the 6th floor with a rifle at 12:30 and went down the stairs unnoticed in the moments after the assassination.  The facts demonstrate not only that it was possible to get down the stairs unnoticed but that is actually what must have happened.

Predictably, we get yet another mind-reading "common sense" argument from "Richard" rather than evidence.

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Re: How exactly did the shooter get down from the sixth floor?
« Reply #48 on: May 06, 2025, 01:36:55 AM »

Bookhout attended the same interrogation session and said Oswald said he ate lunch alone and saw Norman and Jarman.  And as it turned out, Norman and Jarman were walking together right past the domino room just minutes before the assassination.


Oops;

Bookout missed at least an hour and Oswald was telling one provable lie after another.

Mr. BOOKHOUT - I believe he was taken directly into Captain Fritz' office and the interview started at that time with Captain Fritz, and two homicide officers.
Mr. STERN - Were you present?
Mr. BOOKHOUT - I was not in the office at that time. I called our office, advised them he had been brought in, and that the interview was starting and shortly thereafter Mr. Shanklin, our SAC called back and said the Bureau wanted the agents present in the interview and that Hosty, James P. Hosty, I believe was ,to sit in on the interview, and I was to also be present with Hosty. So, at that time, we asked Captain Fritz to sit in on the interview, and that was approximately 3:15 p.m.


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Norman and Jarman were walking together right past the domino room just minutes before the assassination.

WOW, talking about "selective rhetoric", no where does this Bookout report say that Oswald saw Junior and the short fellow "just minutes before the assassination" but it does say that they walked through the room and we know for a fact that they didn't walk through the Domino room! Another Oswald fabrication. Oswald had no alibi because Oswald was on the 6th floor with Oswald's rifle assassinating the President!



Oswald tells U.S. Secret Service Kelley that he ate lunch with two coloured boys. "Selective rhetoric" indeed! LOL This is why you can never trust a devout Conspiracy Theorist because they never tell the WHOLE story and just pick and choose whatever evidence fits their worldview.



That's why it's so easy to be a CT because their fall back of everyone lied except who the CT's say, said the truth, fits every Conspiracy scenario. Whereas LNers are just so damn well honest and take the evidence as it comes and analyse it with pinpoint critical thinking skills.

JohnM

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