If so, Mr Shelley's change of story for the WC would be explained: I remained on the steps until after Gloria came running up and told us all what had happened. LHO-Calvery encounter: erased!
Perhaps Mr Carr asks Ms Reid that otherwise bizarre question because he is struck by the similarity between Ms Reid's story and the female employee story he has heard via one of the Oswald women: I saw Lee with a coke; I told him the Pres. had been shot
From the recent book
The Lone Star Speaks:
As Frazier watched the motorcade pass, he heard three shots and saw spectators begin running west towards the triple underpass. Shelley and Lovelady immediately ran in that direction, too, simply because that’s where all the activity seemed to be. From their position on the steps, the men were unable to see whether anyone in the motorcade was hit by the shots.
“I think the only reason Billy and Mr. Shelley ran to the underpass area is because that’s where so many other bystanders were running,” commented Frazier. Importantly, the witnesses on the Depository steps did not look up to the upper floors.
On the way to the underpass, Lovelady and Shelley encountered Gloria Calvary running from the area later known as “the grassy knoll” or the “grassy area.”
“The President’s been shot!” she cried, so Shelley and Lovelady changed directions and followed the crowds towards the railroad tracks, which were north of the grassy area. Frazier and Sarah Stanton moved down to the sidewalk in front of the Depository and talked with other bystanders about the sounds they had heard, still uncertain as to whether there had been shots or not.This account is intriguing because it blends elements from Mr. Shelley's 11/22 affidavit (After running down off the steps, I ran into Gloria Calvery) with elements from what Messrs. Shelley & Lovelady told the WC (We both left the steps together, but only after Gloria Calvery had come running up to the steps and told us what had happened).
It is not clear whether the authors have drawn this version of events from Mr. Frazier (their interviewee), or are putting their own gloss on the thing.
IF this is coming from Mr. Frazier's own recollection, then I submit that he may possibly be giving us a half-truth to cover for a truth which can be conveyed by substituting one name:
As Frazier watched the motorcade pass, he heard three shots and saw spectators begin running west towards the triple underpass. Shelley and Lovelady Oswald immediately ran in that direction, too, simply because that’s where all the activity seemed to be. From their position on the steps, the men were unable to see whether anyone in the motorcade was hit by the shots.
“I think the only reason Billy Lee and Mr. Shelley ran to the underpass area is because that’s where so many other bystanders were running,” commented Frazier. Importantly, the witnesses on the Depository steps did not look up to the upper floors.
On the way to the underpass, Lovelady Oswald and Shelley encountered Gloria Calvary running from the area later known as “the grassy knoll” or the “grassy area.”
“The President’s been shot!” she cried, so Shelley and Lovelady Oswald changed directions and followed the crowds towards the railroad tracks, which were north of the grassy area. Frazier and Sarah Stanton moved down to the sidewalk in front of the Depository and talked with other bystanders about the sounds they had heard, still uncertain as to whether there had been shots or not.A good deal hangs upon the simple question: is this Mr. Billy Lovelady, still on the steps, in Darnell?
It does look like him. If it is him, then the location of the Calvery encounter given in Mr. Shelley's affidavit trumps the location given by Messrs. Shelley & Lovelady in their WC testimony.
In which case----------------------
Was it in fact Mr. Oswald, and not Mr. Lovelady, who ran off the steps with Mr. Shelley?Nota bene! Neither Mr. Shelley's nor Mr. Lovelady 11/22 affidavit contains any mention of their having paired off together just after the shooting. Mr. Shelley's affidavit speaks only of himself (does he already know better than to mention Mr. Oswald?); Mr. Lovelady doesn't even mention leaving the steps at all. And here is Mr. Lovelady, quite a few minutes later, still on the steps:
When shown frames from this Martin film by Mr. Robert Groden, Mr. Lovelady makes the startling admission: I didn't re-enter the building until 20-25 minutes after the shooting!
There is, in short, good reason to suspect that Mr. Lovelady was NOT the man who left the front steps with Mr. Shelley just after the shots rang out.