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Online Richard Smith

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Re: Oswald: No power lunch
« Reply #264 on: September 10, 2021, 04:01:17 PM »
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The only evidence of Oswald having an alibi is that he said so. ....and it was supported unknowingly by two of his fellow workers, Junior Jarman and Horold Norman.  They testified that they passed through the first floor shipping room and passed by the Domino room at about 12:26.   Lee said that he saw them as he sat there in the Domino room eating his lunch.

How does that support his claim?  Oswald worked in the building for weeks.  As a result, he knew Jarman and Norman worked there and and he made something up knowing they moved about the building at lunch time.  Probably every employee in the building passed through there.  He didn't exactly have to be Nostradamus to do that. Who saw Oswald to corroborate his story?  You really think Oswald sat in a public area of the building and none of his coworkers could confirm his presence there?

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Offline Jon Banks

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« Reply #265 on: September 10, 2021, 04:15:21 PM »
How does that support his claim?  Oswald worked in the building for weeks.  As a result, he knew Jarman and Norman worked there and and he made something up knowing they moved about the building at lunch time.  Probably every employee in the building passed through there.  He didn't exactly have to be Nostradamus to do that. Who saw Oswald to corroborate his story?  You really think Oswald sat in a public area of the building and none of his coworkers could confirm his presence there?

There were several black employees who worked in TSBD. What are the odds that he would guess that Jarman passed by the lunch room and was accompanied by just one other person?

It would be easier to believe he was just guessing if he said Jarman was alone or said he was with a group of employees.
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Re: Oswald: No power lunch
« Reply #266 on: September 10, 2021, 04:46:43 PM »
There were several black employees who worked in TSBD. What are the odds that he would guess that Jarman passed by the lunch room and was accompanied by just one other person?

It would be easier to believe he was just guessing if he said Jarman was alone or said he was with a group of employees.

He could have picked just about anyone who worked there and said they passed by.  And they probably did given the time and location and fact that many employees were heading out for the motorcade.  Oswald had also worked there for weeks and observed the patterns of behavior.  He would have know who had lunch where and with whom on a typical day.  It would be no great feat to make something up.  More importantly, though, who saw Oswald there?  Old Ozzie was perhaps the most politically astute person in the entire TSBD workforce but he is not going to even bother to step outside to watch the presidential motorcade.  The same guy who checked JFK's book out of the library to read.  And the fantasy conspirators are going to trust the entire plot to frame Oswald to luck by allowing him to roam about the building during the assassination and not be noticed by anyone who could give him an alibi or even do the most likely thing that day to head out of the building in the company of dozens of coworkers, cameras etc.   It is laughable. 

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Re: Oswald: No power lunch
« Reply #267 on: September 10, 2021, 05:00:20 PM »
How does that support his claim?  Oswald worked in the building for weeks.  As a result, he knew Jarman and Norman worked there and and he made something up knowing they moved about the building at lunch time.  Probably every employee in the building passed through there.  He didn't exactly have to be Nostradamus to do that. Who saw Oswald to corroborate his story?  You really think Oswald sat in a public area of the building and none of his coworkers could confirm his presence there?

Do you really want to appear as a complete idiot?.....  If you've got a brain....USE IT!

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Re: Oswald: No power lunch
« Reply #268 on: September 10, 2021, 05:07:38 PM »
There were several black employees who worked in TSBD. What are the odds that he would guess that Jarman passed by the lunch room and was accompanied by just one other person?

It would be easier to believe he was just guessing if he said Jarman was alone or said he was with a group of employees.

Oswald sat in his snipers nest all lunch and at the windows directly below two men suddenly appear, guess who?

JohnM

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Re: Oswald: No power lunch
« Reply #269 on: September 10, 2021, 05:13:46 PM »
He could have picked just about anyone who worked there and said they passed by.  And they probably did given the time and location and fact that many employees were heading out for the motorcade.  Oswald had also worked there for weeks and observed the patterns of behavior.  He would have know who had lunch where and with whom on a typical day.  It would be no great feat to make something up.  More importantly, though, who saw Oswald there?  Old Ozzie was perhaps the most politically astute person in the entire TSBD workforce but he is not going to even bother to step outside to watch the presidential motorcade.  The same guy who checked JFK's book out of the library to read.  And the fantasy conspirators are going to trust the entire plot to frame Oswald to luck by allowing him to roam about the building during the assassination and not be noticed by anyone who could give him an alibi or even do the most likely thing that day to head out of the building in the company of dozens of coworkers, cameras etc.   It is laughable.

He could have picked just about anyone who worked there and said they passed by. 

Yeah sure, except he described exactly those two individuals who were actually there.

And they probably did given the time and location and fact that many employees were heading out for the motorcade.

The sighting happened at around 12:25 when most employees were already outside in front of the building. When Jarman and Norman entered through the backdoor there was nobody else there, at least they didn't see anybody there.

Oswald had also worked there for weeks and observed the patterns of behavior.  He would have know who had lunch where and with whom on a typical day.  It would be no great feat to make something up. 

Except this wasn't a typical day, so his observations would have been worthless

More importantly, though, who saw Oswald there?

And pray tell, who saw Oswald on the 6th floor at 12:25? The answer is; nobody.... so your conclusion must be that he wasn't there, right?


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Re: Oswald: No power lunch
« Reply #270 on: September 10, 2021, 05:20:47 PM »
Oswald sat in his snipers nest all lunch and at the windows directly below two men suddenly appear, guess who?

JohnM

Do you have a single witness who said they saw Lee Oswald hanging far out of the window in a manner that he could have seen Jarman and Norman who were standing with their backs to the SE corner of the TSBD.  ???

Oswald sat in his snipers nest all lunch ....Did he and  Bonnie Ray Williams share the SE corner?

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Re: Oswald: No power lunch
« Reply #271 on: September 10, 2021, 05:23:48 PM »
He could have picked just about anyone who worked there and said they passed by. 

Yeah sure, except he described exactly those two individuals who were actually there.

And they probably did given the time and location and fact that many employees were heading out for the motorcade.

The sighting happened at around 12:25 when most employees were already outside in front of the building. When Jarman and Norman entered through the backdoor there was nobody else there, at least they didn't see anybody there.

Oswald had also worked there for weeks and observed the patterns of behavior.  He would have know who had lunch where and with whom on a typical day.  It would be no great feat to make something up. 

Except this wasn't a typical day, so his observations would have been worthless

More importantly, though, who saw Oswald there?

And pray tell, who saw Oswald on the 6th floor at 12:25? The answer is; nobody.... so your conclusion must be that he wasn't there, right?

So the contrarian who believe no evidence, no matter how solid, when it relates to Oswald's guilt entertains this theory?  LOL.  Again, who saw Oswald there?  Would the conspirators frame an individual for this crime while he was freely roaming about the building and could be in the presence of anyone or, if he acted reasonably, be on the street with dozens of witnesses to give him an alibi?  And as John points out, Oswald can observe events from the 6th floor window including folks entering the building.  It's laughable to suggest that because Oswald said he was somewhere else in the building that this constitutes an alibi.  Particularly coming from a contrarian who applies an impossible standard of proof to any evidence that suggests guilt.