JFK Assassination Forum

i mention " THE EVENT " what event ? . i made zero comment about knotts lab either in favor or against it . neither pushing it as accurate nor questioning its accuracy . that is the beginning ,middle and end . you even had someone else (i think it was charles ) believing i did mention it . however that is now cleared up . i never mentioned it . PERIOD . the only one now having a difficulty in accepting reality is you .

there is a hypocrisy , and LN hypocrisy .as i accurately pointed out , one of many .

LN will cite a witness to support todays LN claim , while tomorrow they will attack the same witness if they said or saw something LN do not like .
LN continually ask CT to produce animations or work to support their claims . when an animation has been produced (all be it not a CT created animation ) you as an LN then immediately look to attack and dismiss it .
LN as i have said choose to ignore problems with myers animation , while you seek to go to town on attacking and dismissing knotts lab animation  .
as i said only one  of many hypocrisies by LN .

there is no hypocrisy on my side . i merely stated a fact , a fact that you dont care for .

"John Kelin: What do you think about Lee Harvey Oswald? Could he have done it by himself?

Dale Myers: Oh, certainly: anybody could have done it by themselves. First off, I don't think Lee Harvey Oswald pulled the trigger.

John Kelin: The trigger, or a trigger?

Dale Myers: Okay ... a trigger.

John Kelin: I mean – you know, if there were two gunmen, could he have been one of them?

Dale Myers: Exactly. Okay. Well the gun that was fired from the Texas School Book Depository was the gun that fired all the shots that hit any victims. And including the fatal shot. But I don't think he was the finger that was behind that trigger. Although there's no doubt that it was his rifle. And to say that he did not pull the trigger does not mean that he was not involved in some way; he obviously was involved. But as far as saying that he was guilty ... I find that extremely hard to believe. And I think I'll show enough evidence to indicate, or that I think I could circumstantially beyond a reasonable doubt, so to speak, prove to anybody else, that he was not the man behind the trigger."

theres another hypocrisy . a man who said that Oswalds finger WAS NOT on the trigger , that he can prove to a reasonable doubt that Oswald did not do it  .yet he now has profited substantially certainly by over 1 million by saying Oswald did do it . the grass really is greener (green being the operative word ) on the LN side of the fence lol .

Don’t be so kind to yourself. It is known as talking out of both sides of your mouth. Attempting to say something while not saying it out loud. Now you are stating you are comparing Meyers and LNers to no one and at the same time everyone.

Where is your comparison of Meyers SBT and Knotts Lab SBT, but I guess we already saw it in the original post. Knotts Lab animation side mouth post was the exact opposite of the Meyers critique? They were both animations of the exact same event. Exactly what was the difference in your mind?

Is it because there is no difference? Wouldn’t the same whining, sniveling, bawling rant and rave equally apply to Knotts Lab?

Once again back at Meyers and LNers. 

hoover played no part in jfks assassination , the FBI did however play a part in concealing information . and that simply would never be done without his knowledge .

as for mexico , certainly at the cuban embassy two people who spoke to the man claiming to be Oswald claimed Oswald was not the man they spoke to . consul Azcue when asked he stated (not verbatim now from memory ) that he could not identify the man he saw shot in the DPD basement as the man he spoke to because the man he spoke to was blonde . and a second witness (duran ) description of the man was of a blonde man . i dont think i have  seen a single mention of this here by any of the LN posting . i appreciate most posts have been about the pulse cameras which were working , however we need to discuss the actual people who were there and spoke with or saw Oswald .


Mr. CORNWELL . Senor Azcue, the pictures on the upper lefthand
portion of each document would appear to be of the same individu-
al; is that correct?
Senor AzCUE. Yes, sir.
Mr. CORNWELL. Do those pictures of that individual appear to
you to be the same individual who visited the consulate in Mexico
City on the occasions you have previously described to us?
Senor AZCUE. Truly, this photograph is one that I saw for the
first time when the honorable U.S. committee members came to
Cuba in April of this year, and I was surprised that I believe that it
was not the same person. Fifteen years had gone by so it is very
difficult for me to be in a position to guarantee it in a categorical
form.
But my belief is that this gentleman was not, is not, the person
or the individual who went to the consulate .
Mr. CORNWELL. Directing your attention to the period of time
immediately after the assassination, the day of the assassination or
the day after the assassination, did you during that period of time
have an occasion to see pictures of the alleged assassin in the
newspapers or to observe on television the man identified at that
time as Lee Harvey Oswald?
Senor AZCUE. Yes, sir, not so close to the date, not in the first
few days, not immediately thereafter. Some time I calculate ap-
proximately-and I say this because I am not a great movie fan,
but it was in mid-December approximately-I saw at that time the
film in which Ruby appears assassinating the Oswald who was
there, and I was not able to identify him and only 2 months had
gone by since I had seen the Oswald who appeared at the consul-
ate . And I had a clear mental picture because we had had an
unpleasant discussion and he had not been very pleasant to me and
I did not recognize when I first saw him. I did not recognize
Oswald.
The man who went to the consulate was a man over 30 years of
age and very thin, very thin faced. And the individual I saw in the
movie was a young man, considerably younger, and a fuller face.
Mr. CORNWELL. What color hair did the individual have to the
best of your memory who visited the consulate?
Senor AZCUE. He was blond, dark blond.
Mr. CORNWELL. Did the individual you saw in the movie, the
person who was killed by Jack Ruby, resemble more closely the
individual in these photographs to your memory than the individu-
al who visited the consulate?
Senor AZCUE. I believe so.

duran also described the man she saw as blonde and short , all be it she would also say that Oswald was the man .  but then LN will of course dispute her description . but we have to consider that both she and azcue described a short blonde man of 5 feet 6 or under . Oswald was neither blonde , nor short at 5 feet 10 or 11 .

"Like Azcue, Contreras said the "Oswald" he met looked more than thirty years old. Like Sylvia Duran, he recalled very positively that Oswald was short-he too thought at most 5' 6". He said he would normally be reluctant to be so specific, but his recall on this point is persuasive. Contreras himself is only 5' 9" tall, and he clearly recalled looking down at the man he calls "Oswald the Rabbit." "

there is a lot of information to assert that a person / s was in some way pretending to be Oswald at different times . we must consider all of this .

"Every word of this is utter nonsense. It all exists in your own mind and nowhere else."

actually it exists on multiple threads not only on this forum but everywhere that LN post . whether you accept that or not matters not one bit to me .

you dont need to tell me on what side of the fence any particular person posting here is on .

"You are being overly sensitive and reading too much into things"

as i have already said to one or two people here who are far to quick to attack . YOU WORRY ABOUT YOU and how and why and what you post . i am a big boy , i can take care of myself .

you dont need to tell me on what side of the fence any particular person posting here is on

I wasn't showing you what side of the fence anyone was on.
I was showing that you post nonsense that you can't back up.
But you crack on "big boy", let's see what you've got.

Hoover: "...photograph of the man who was at the Soviet embassy, using Oswald’s name."

The vague description Hoover uses, "the man" implies that Hoover didn't know who he was.

BTW, at the time, Hoover was 1500 miles away from Mexico City and 1200 miles away from Dallas, where the surveillance materials were being examined. How would he really know? After all, he was wrong about tapes being sent to Dallas.