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It’s simple geometry. You do some math and show us using the math when and where you think the follow-up agents were in the line of fire from the sniper’s nest.  🧐

     Nobody Knows with certainty when the Back Shot entered JFK. Yet you ask for "simple geometry"?  Knott Lab Laser SCIENCE declared the SBT "Is Impossible". It's all over whether LN's want to admit it or not. Multiple Shooters has now been proven by SCIENCE.
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   Come on Charles. You do Not know that the Back Shot was fired at the moment we are seeing the cross hairs on that STILL FRAME. The image you posted is actually 1 Film Frame removed from a Motion Picture. And again, Elm St was on a Downgrade. That puts the SS Agents on that (R) running board at a Higher Elevation/Above the JFK Limo/JFK.


It’s simple geometry. You do some math and show us using the math when and where you think the follow-up agents were in the line of fire from the sniper’s nest.  🧐
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The queen mary was behind the JFK limo. From the angle of the photo from the sniper’s nest we can clearly see the oak tree has just been cleared from the sniper’s view. In order for your ridiculous idea to be true, the running board agents would have to be taller than the branches of the oak tree. That clearly is not the case. You have shown once again that you are clueless.

   Come on Charles. You do Not know that the Back Shot was fired at the moment we are seeing the cross hairs on that STILL FRAME. The image you posted is actually 1 Film Frame removed from a Motion Picture. And again, Elm St was on a Downgrade. That puts the SS Agents on that (R) running board at a Higher Elevation/Above the JFK Limo/JFK.
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   Thanks for providing the visual aid to prove my point. You put the Queen Mary with 2 Large SS Agents standing atop the (R) Running Board and those 2 Agents would be close to dead center on the cross hairs. Beautiful work.


The queen mary was behind the JFK limo. From the angle of the photo from the sniper’s nest we can clearly see the oak tree has just been cleared from the sniper’s view. In order for your ridiculous idea to be true, the running board agents would have to be taller than the branches of the oak tree. That clearly is not the case. You have shown once again that you are clueless.
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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: Ruby in Dealey Plaza?
« Last post by Fergus O'Brien on Today at 05:13:17 PM »
New to the forum so unsure if this has been discussed before

At the extreme left of the Altgens 6 and cropped out of most copies is the side view of a man in a grey hat who looks very similar to the photo of Ruby in the basement before shooting Oswald Both this man and the construction worker in the hard hat are not looking at the motorcade

I have some photos but cannot work out how to insert them in the post if someone can advise

there are photos of a man wearing sun glasses who bore resemblance to Ruby and who some have said was Ruby , the man (i dont know if he has been named ) was near the depository . i dont know if its the same man you refer to .but the man i speak of was not Ruby .i am in agreement with other posts here regarding his whereabouts . i will say that his whereabouts for me atleast cast doubt on his supposed devotion to his beloved president . i mean JFK his beloved president is passing by him very near to him , and yet he makes zero effort to go and see him . surely what business he had could have waited 10 or 20 minutes while he went and saw jfk ? .
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   Thanks for providing the visual aid to prove my point. You put the Queen Mary with 2 Large SS Agents standing atop the (R) Running Board and those 2 Agents would be close to dead center on the cross hairs. Beautiful work.
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From the Escalante book on the Cuban investigation into the Mexico City issue:



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From Cuban counterintelligence officer Fabian Escalante's book "The Cuba Files", pg. 130-132.

"Guillermo Ruiz was the translator in the conversation between Azcue and Oswald. He told Fabian Escalante that although he was not an expert in physiognomy, it was his opinion that the Oswald he saw on Mexican television was the one he saw in the consulate that day. Antonio Garcia Lara [who worked in the trade office at the Consulate] saw Oswald as he was leaving, and he had the same impression as Ruiz. Both of them disagreed with Azcue."

So we have two additional witnesses saying that they believed the man who visited the Cuban consulate *was* Oswald. Four in all: Mirabal, Duran, Ruiz and Garcia Lara. A problem with these later accounts, of course, is that Azcue never mentioned the two men, particularly Ruiz who supposedly helped translate for him. And Duran never mentioned them either. Very odd.

Again, the Cubans concluded it *was* Oswald who visited their consulate but they argue he was sent there by someone or some group - CIA or anti-Castro groups - to connect the assassination through him to Havana. Conspiracy believers gonna' conspiracy argue no matter what is presented.

More on the Cuban investigation can be read here: https://www.cuban-exile.com/doc_026-050/doc0027.html

So we have the Soviets saying it was Oswald, the Cubans saying it was Oswald and all sorts of other evidence but conspiracists ignore all of this and say it wasn't. Because of course.



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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: Ruby in Dealey Plaza?
« Last post by Richard Smith on Today at 01:34:37 PM »
It's difficult to recognize anyone in those grainy b&w films and photos.  It's not Ruby, though, because he was in the presence of several witnesses several blocks away.

WC:

Jack Ruby learned of the shooting of President Kennedy while in the second-floor advertising offices of the Dallas Morning News, five blocks from the Texas School Book Depository, where he had come Friday morning to place regular weekend advertisements for his two nightclubs.849 On arriving at the newspaper building at about 11 or 11:30 a.m., he talked briefly with two newspaper employees concerning some diet pills he had recommended to them.850 Ruby then went to the office of Morning News columnist, Tony Zoppi, where he states he obtained a brochure on his new master of ceremonies that he wanted to use in preparing copy for his advertisements. 851 Proceeding to the advertising department, he spoke with advertising employee Don Campbell from about noon until 12:25 p.m. when Campbell left the office.852 In addition to the business at hand, much of the conversation concerned Ruby's unhappiness over the financial condition of his clubs and his professed ability to handle the physical fights which arose in connection with the clubs.583 According to Campbell, Ruby did not mention the Presidential motorcade nor did he display any unusual behavior.854

About 10 minutes after the President had been shot but before word had spread to the second floor, John Newnam, an advertising department employee, observed Ruby sitting at the same spot where Campbell had left him.
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News - Off Topic - Weird & Wacky / Re: U.S. Politics
« Last post by Richard Smith on Today at 01:26:54 PM »
Old Joe is lagging in the polls with African Americans.  Particularly males.  So he goes to Morehouse to tell them that democracy doesn't work for them.  Huh?  These are graduates of a prestigious university who will go on to great careers.  But according to Sleepy Joe they are living in a racist society with no hope. 
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