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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: More Morley Nothingburgers On the Way
« Last post by Tom Graves on Today at 08:50:53 PM »
Quote from: Jon Banks on Today at 08:30:58 PM
Amazing.

Honest question, should the CIA be held accountable (or not) for lying to investigators and obstructing investigations into JFK's murder?

Morley exposing the fact that the CIA lied on several occasions about facts related to the Kennedy assassination should be a huge scandal. But according to you, Morley is a bad guy for asking questions and attempting to clear up the historical records which are confusing due to intentional obstruction.

And I don't know where you get the idea that it's only the far-Left that wants accountability from our government. Lots of people who voted for Trump supported his promise to open the Esptein/JFK/MLK/RFK files.

Did you know that a probable KGB mole in the CIA by the name of Bruce Leonard Solie (look him up) hid Office of Security files on Oswald from the Church Committee and the HSCA, and, according to JFKA conspiracy theorist Malcolm Blunt, was "all over Clay Shaw for Jim Garrison"?

https://www.bing.com/videos/riverview/relatedvideo?&q=%22malcolm+blunt%22+%22yuri+nosenko%22&qpvt=%22malcolm+blunt%22+%22yuri+nosenko%22&mid=7DBB503AA54F7BE317ED7DBB503AA54F7BE317ED&mmscn=mtsc&aps=130&FORM=VRDGAR
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: More Morley Nothingburgers On the Way
« Last post by Jon Banks on Today at 08:30:58 PM »
Quote from: Steve M. Galbraith on Today at 07:19:27 PM

It's using the assassination, as many on the Left do, for their crusade against the CIA, the Cold War policies, of that period.

Amazing.

Honest question, should the CIA be held accountable (or not) for lying to investigators and obstructing investigations into JFK's murder?

Morley exposing the fact that the CIA lied on several occasions about facts related to the Kennedy assassination should be a huge scandal. But according to you, Morley is a bad guy for asking questions and attempting to clear up the historical records which are confusing due to intentional obstruction.

And I don't know where you get the idea that it's only the far-Left that wants accountability from our government. Lots of people who voted for Trump supported his promise to open the Esptein/JFK/MLK/RFK files.
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: More Morley Nothingburgers On the Way
« Last post by Tom Graves on Today at 07:35:17 PM »
Quote from: Steve M. Galbraith on Today at 07:19:27 PM
I'll suggest that at this point he's simply on a crusade against the CIA. I don't think deep down he really believes that Angleton et al. killed JFK. He can't get from AMSPELL to Dallas and he knows it. And Harvey had nothing to do with this at all. It's all scattershot, grabbing at things. But he wants to expose as much of what they did during that period as he can. Notice that he seldom mentions how the Kennedys were driving all of this, the covert program against Cuba. It's the "rogue CIA" myth in action.

It's using the assassination, as many on the Left do, for their crusade against the CIA, the Cold War policies, of that period.

Strangely, one of his main writers, Chester "Chad" Nagle, Jr., is a far-right Trump supporter.
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: Did Roger Craig see Gilberto Policarpo Lopez get into a Rambler Station Wagon?
« Last post by Tom Graves on Today at 07:33:24 PM »
Quote from: Michael T. Griffith on Today at 07:22:26 PM
You might want to read Castro's HSCA interview:

https://www.kennedysandking.com/news-items/hsca-interview-with-fidel-castro

Castro was not about to risk a full-scale U.S. invasion by being involved in any plot against JFK.

Castro, like JFK, was playing a double game, following a two-track policy, sort of a carrot-and-stick approach, seeing which angle worked. The record is clear that by late October, Castro knew JFK was serious about improving relations and was responding positively to JFK's back-channel overtures.

Again, when Castro heard the news of JFK's death, he lamented it, saying, "This is bad news."

Did Castro think the evil, evil, evil CIA had gone rogue in Paris?
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: Warning about the Education Forum: JFK Assassination Debate
« Last post by Tom Graves on Today at 07:31:13 PM »
Quote from: Michael T. Griffith on Today at 07:26:57 PM
Wow, you are way off. Greg is one of the nicest, most straightforward guys you will ever meet. He is a wonderful human being. He is also a meticulous researcher and is not afraid to announce when his findings contradict some cherished aspect of the conspiracy scenario. If you look up Greg's posts in the Education Forum, you'll see Greg has debunked a number of claims made by many conspiracy theorists. In a few cases, just a few, I have disagreed with Greg and have believed he was being too cautious, but I've never had any reason to doubt Greg's sincerity.

JFKA-wise.
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: Warning about the Education Forum: JFK Assassination Debate
« Last post by Michael T. Griffith on Today at 07:26:57 PM »
Quote from: Tom Graves on Today at 03:33:46 AM
Doudna's a snake in the grass, imho.

Wow, you are way off. Greg is one of the nicest, most straightforward guys you will ever meet. He is a wonderful human being. He is also a meticulous researcher and is not afraid to announce when his findings contradict some cherished aspect of the conspiracy scenario. If you look up Greg's posts in the Education Forum, you'll see Greg has debunked a number of claims made by many conspiracy theorists. In a few cases, just a few, I have disagreed with Greg and have believed he was being too cautious, but I've never had any reason to doubt Greg's sincerity.
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: Did Roger Craig see Gilberto Policarpo Lopez get into a Rambler Station Wagon?
« Last post by Michael T. Griffith on Today at 07:22:26 PM »
Quote from: Tom Graves on Today at 04:36:44 PM
Griffith,

If Castro so trusted JFK and RFK, why did he warn them on 7 September, and why did he have his triple agent, Rolando Cubela, meet with Desmond FitzGerald in Paris on 22 November?

You might want to read Castro's HSCA interview:

https://www.kennedysandking.com/news-items/hsca-interview-with-fidel-castro

Castro was not about to risk a full-scale U.S. invasion by being involved in any plot against JFK.

Castro, like JFK, was playing a double game, following a two-track policy, sort of a carrot-and-stick approach, seeing which angle worked. The record is clear that by late October, Castro knew JFK was serious about improving relations and was responding positively to JFK's back-channel overtures.

Again, when Castro heard the news of JFK's death, he lamented it, saying, "This is bad news."
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: More Morley Nothingburgers On the Way
« Last post by Steve M. Galbraith on Today at 07:19:27 PM »
Quote from: Fred Litwin on Today at 12:25:14 PM
More Morley Nothingburgers On the Way



Get ready. Morley has asked for more files to be released. None of them will tell us anything.

https://www.onthetrailofdelusion.com/post/more-morley-nothingburgers-on-the-way
I'll suggest that at this point he's simply on a crusade against the CIA. I don't think deep down he really believes that Angleton et al. killed JFK. He can't get from AMSPELL to Dallas and he knows it. Oswald instigated that confrontation with DRE, specifically with Bringuier. It wasn't Joannides or his supposed "agents" doing this. It was in response to Oswald trying to create an event to pad his pro-Castro resume. No one in the DRE said that Joannides instructed them in any way on this. This was three months before the assassination and you can't get to that from New Orleans. He knows it but won't include those facts.

And Harvey had nothing to do with this at all. It's all scattershot, grabbing at things. But he wants to expose as much of what they did during that period as he can. Notice that he seldom mentions how the Kennedys were driving all of this, the covert program against Cuba. It's the "rogue CIA" myth in action.

It's using the assassination, as many on the Left do, for their crusade against the CIA, the Cold War policies, of that period.
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: Abraham "Crocodile-Tears" Zapruder on a walkie-talkie...
« Last post by Tom Graves on Today at 06:56:22 PM »
Quote from: Jake Maxwell on Today at 06:38:37 PM
I think your comment means I'm over the target...

Zapruder on a walkie talkie is certainly a very, very disturbing idea to every LN'r...

No payment from Putin... just a love for truth and justice...

AND the greater question is this one: "Did anyone pay Zapruder?"



Dear Jake,

Have you always been paranoiac?

-- Tom
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: Abraham "Crocodile-Tears" Zapruder on a walkie-talkie...
« Last post by Jake Maxwell on Today at 06:38:37 PM »
Quote from: Tom Graves on Today at 04:27:33 PM
Dear Jake "Eagle Eye" Maxwell,

Does Vladimir Putin pay you, or do you do it for free?

-- Tom

I think your comment means I'm over the target...

Zapruder on a walkie talkie is certainly a very, very disturbing idea to every LN'r...

No payment from Putin... just a love for truth and justice...

AND the greater question is this one: "Did anyone pay Zapruder?"


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