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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: Tippit Shooting 1:15-1:16
« Last post by Michael Capasse on Today at 07:05:36 PM »
Quote from: Bill Brown on Today at 06:58:56 PM

Capasse... Learn the case or shut the f*** up.  When you're running your mouth, you're not listening.


 :D
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: Jefferson Morley's Unbearable Lightness of Being
« Last post by Jon Banks on Today at 07:02:05 PM »
Quote from: Tim Nickerson on Today at 06:20:37 PM
The burden is on you to prove that he was.

See the newly declassified documents. The CIA has confirmed that Joannides was the handler for the DRE.

It has been all over the mainstream news media. Where have you been?
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: Tippit Shooting 1:15-1:16
« Last post by Michael Capasse on Today at 07:01:01 PM »
Quote from: Bill Brown on Today at 06:55:09 PM
Again, Callaway was (roughly) 50 feet closer to Jefferson than was Guinyard, who was at the alley.

Now you're just arguing with yourself. Good luck with that.
Meanwhile, either you have evidence Guinyard went north of the ally or you don't.

Quote from: Bill Brown on Today at 06:55:09 PM
And no one said anything about Guinyard finding any shells.

Who did say that?
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: Tippit Shooting 1:15-1:16
« Last post by Bill Brown on Today at 06:58:56 PM »
The two-story brown brick building seen in the background (where the two kids are playing out front) is at the alley and Patton.  Callaway was (roughly) fifty feet south of that building, i.e. Callaway is (roughly) fifty feet south of the alley.

Capasse... Learn the case or shut the f*** up.  When you're running your mouth, you're not listening.

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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: Tippit Shooting 1:15-1:16
« Last post by Bill Brown on Today at 06:55:09 PM »
Quote from: Michael Capasse on Today at 12:25:08 PM
:D Once again, you're resorting to insults and unfounded claims.
What is your source for this supposed 50-foot difference? - time of shots? Then they both moved.
Guinyard said he never went farther north than the alleyway. TC was then in front of him.
How does SG see shells dropped along Patton? No one else did.

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Mr. BALL. Did you see Mr. Callaway there?
Mr. GUINYARD. We was together; yes, sir.

Mr. BALL. You were together?
Mr. GUINYARD. Yes, sir; he was at the front and I was at the back.

Mr. BALL. You and Callaway were standing at the alleyway?
Mr. GUINYARD. Yes

I'm trying to figure out how Guinyard could see shells dropped along Patton. He went no further than the ally way.
I'm not sure you even know what it is you're arguing.

Again, Callaway was (roughly) 50 feet closer to Jefferson than was Guinyard, who was at the alley.
And no one said anything about Guinyard finding any shells.
Learn the case.
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: Jefferson Morley's Unbearable Lightness of Being
« Last post by Tim Nickerson on Today at 06:20:37 PM »
Quote from: Jon Banks on Today at 05:04:55 PM

I simply don't accept Bringuier's word as proof that Joannides wasn't involved.

The burden is on you to prove that he was.
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: LNers Can't Explain the Two Back-of-Head Bullet Fragments
« Last post by Tim Nickerson on Today at 05:59:15 PM »
Quote from: Michael T. Griffith on Today at 01:42:51 PM

You're quoting from my section on whether FMJ bullets leave numerous fragments inside a skull, not whether they ever deposit a fragment at/near the entry point on a skull. This is another severe problem with the lone-gunman scenario: FMJ bullets do not shatter into dozens of fragments when they penetrate skulls. The FMJ bullets in the WC's wound ballistics test did not do this. Nor did the FMJ bullets in Lattimer's test. Nor did the FMJ bullets in the Failure Analysis test.

FMJ bullets do shatter into dozens of fragments when they penetrate skulls. The FMJ bullets in the WC's wound ballistics test did so.

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=62296#relPageId=30

The FMJ bullets in Lattimer's test did as well.



Not sure about the FMJ bullets in the Failure Analysis test




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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: LNers Can't Explain the Two Back-of-Head Bullet Fragments
« Last post by Tim Nickerson on Today at 05:33:24 PM »
Quote from: Michael T. Griffith on Today at 01:42:51 PM
This is just silly. I already refuted this silliness. Please go back and read my previous replies on this issue. You are blundering horrendously.

You didn't refute anything. What you did was claim that the fragment imbedded in the forehead was the 7 x 2 mm fragment removed by Humes. Which is itself silliness, considering that the 7 x 2 mm fragment removed by Humes was in the brain behind the right eye.
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: Jefferson Morley's Unbearable Lightness of Being
« Last post by Jon Banks on Today at 05:11:30 PM »
Quote from: Fred Litwin on Today at 04:00:22 PM
The CIA gave the Joannaides' personnel file to the ARRB and the ARRB knew that Joannides was the case officer for the DRE and had worked with the HSCA. They released about 12 pages and said the rest was irrelevant. They were right.
There is really nothing here at all. No Oswald Operation. No nothing.

The CIA's rep for the ARRB admits that he was wrong about Joannides by the way. I can accept that he was misled by others.

From the Washington Post's article about the new docs:

Congress in 1994 created the Assassinations Records Review Board, which again tried to recover key documents from federal agencies, and again probed the CIA. The CIA responded with its memo about “Howard,” saying he didn’t exist.

“My memo was incorrect,” said J. Barry Harrelson, a former CIA official who wrote the memo. “But this wasn’t deliberate.” He said he wasn’t provided Joannides’s personnel file, but that it was provided to the review board. Morley said the review board received the file, but seeing no references to Oswald, didn’t realize its relevance. Harrelson said the release of the D.C. driver’s license notes was “the first time I’d seen it.”

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Harrelson’s memo also noted that progress reports on Joannides’s Miami operation were missing for the 17 months he was there, which Morley said was another indicator that the anti-Castro program was secret even within the CIA.

The search for Howard began in the 1990s when Morley interviewed members of the Cuban group DRE, short for Directorio Revolucionario Estudiantil, or Student Revolutionary Directorate. Among them was Jose Antonio Lanuza, now 86, who told The Post that “Howard” dealt only with the DRE’s leader, Luis Fernandez Rocha, and Rocha would pass on direction from “Howard.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2025/07/14/cia-oswald-jfk-assassination-joannides/


^The last sentence is for Steve  :)
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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate / Re: Jefferson Morley's Unbearable Lightness of Being
« Last post by Steve M. Galbraith on Today at 05:08:16 PM »
Quote from: Jon Banks on Today at 05:04:55 PM
Your faith in the integrity of CIA agents is something that I don't have.

I simply don't accept Bringuier's word as proof that Joannides wasn't involved.

The burden is on you and Fred to explain why the CIA went out of their way to lie and obstruct investigations into the matter.
Well, you reject the evidence and here we are. How do we disprove this? What would you accept? What did the other DRE people in New Orleans say? It's not just Bringuier. But if they say Joannides gave them no orders then you'd reject that too. You not only have the CIA behind it, you have private individuals involved.

The burden is on the people making a claim, Jon. Whether the claim is Oswald alone shot JFK or there was a conspiracy. It's up to the people making the argument to support it not others to disprove it.
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