JFK Assassination Forum

@Richard:
You are right, I should not have speculated that  Oswald’s reason to return to his boarding house asap was to get his revolver, let alone to head out to Rubys house located SE of Oswalds boarding house.

Its just  seems odd to me  that Oswald’s heading SE to get to 10th and Patton was not exactly the most direct route to take if Oswald was intending to go to a theater that’s located SW of the boarding house.

Since Frazier described the bag length as 2 feet plus or minus a couple of inches , then something else must have been in the bag other than a disassembled (34.5”) MC rifle.

Questions

1.So what could be in the bag and why was Oswald carrying it into  TSBD loading dock annex building yet NOT apparently into TSBD building itself, since Jack Dougherty saw nothing in Oswald’s hands when Oswald entered the door to TSBD?

2.Why were  Oswald and Ruby seen together on several occasions ?

3. How did Oswald manage to have as much as $200 cash on his person by Thursday night?

These are questions that led me to suggest Oswald involved in drug trafficking thru Ruby mafia connections and therefore it’s a possibility that the  reason Ruby shot Oswald in front of cameras no less, was because Oswald had become too much of a liability connecting Mafia to drugs and  to the JFK assassination as well.

The mafia was already under investigation by RFK and having one boss known to have made remark such as “cutting the head of the snake off” , it’s not so implausible to  consider that Ruby HAD to shot Oswald asap especially after Oswald was arrested and charged with shooting Tippit and under suspicion of having shot JFK.

I don’t see how it is plausible  that Zapruders statement
 “ he heard a shot and then he saw JFK slump and then heard another shot or 2”  could support Andrews proposed sequence of a 1st shot at Z195-200 that missed

?? I have never, ever suggested that any shot missed everyone. The evidence is rather strong and uncontradicted that JFK reacted to the first shot as we see when he emerges from behind the sign. I am suggesting that the trajectory as well as the evidence of the Connallys and others establish that the first shot did not strike JBC in the back/armpit. All I am suggesting is that the only wound of JBC that fits being made by CE399 (which must have been the bullet through JFK’s neck) is the thigh wound. And the trajectory through JFK at z190-195 directly to JBC’s left thigh seems to work.

Seems to me that   Zapruder  is backing up Betzner and Willis as well as Harold Normans perception of a 1st shot that was heard , followed by JFK slumping and only AFTER that slumping then was heard a 2nd and or 3rd shot.

Yes, he does.

The problem with a statement like “if Frazier was telling the truth then Oswald must have lied” is that we cannot be certain exactly what Oswald said to Will Fritz, because there was no recording made , no attorney present, nor even a court stenographer present to verify the statements.

Zapruder is sitting in a chair and Watson is talking and from that you know everything he has heard after entering into the building and standing then sitting in the studio?  Did you miss the part where Watson could not wait to tell him there were three shots. Did you also imagine hearing Zapruder mention a shot halfway between the throat shot and the head shot?

You need to watch the whole continuous feed for the hour or so beforehand.  Watson is on the air continuously.   Your allegation was that he caused Zapruder’s confusion. But we can see that Watson did not say anything to him in the hour prior to beginning the interview.  He did not mention 3 shots until after Zapruder said:

“And as I was shooting—as the President was coming down from Houston Street making his turn; it was about a half-way down there—I heard a shot, and he slumped to the side, like this. Then I heard another shot or two—I couldn't say [whether] it was one or two—and I saw his head practically open up [places fingers of right hand to right side of head in a narrow cone, over his right ear], all blood and everything, and I kept on shooting.”

JBC, Nellie, and Jackie all mention the first shot hit JBC. Are you still struggling with the basics?

I am struggling with that.  But it is because I am struggling to understand what universe you are in.

11th grade? You are being kind to yourself. You presented your understanding of physics as a bullet striking a hard object.

But it doesn’t matter how hard the impact to determine the transfer of momentum. The only thing that matters is the bullet momentum before and the bullet momentum after. Since that loss of momentum is imparted to the body and to whatever it is connected to, the maximum momentum the body can gain is the amount lost by the bullet.