Lovelady in Darnell and it's Ramifications.

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Online Tom Graves

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Re: Lovelady in Darnell and it's Ramifications.
« Reply #248 on: October 01, 2025, 06:12:35 AM »
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Come on, Tommy.
Who is the man on the steps?


It's whomever you want it to be, danny BOY.

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« Last Edit: October 01, 2025, 07:07:12 AM by Tom Graves »

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Re: Lovelady in Darnell and it's Ramifications.
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Online Dan O'meara

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Re: Lovelady in Darnell and it's Ramifications.
« Reply #249 on: October 01, 2025, 06:21:17 AM »

It's whoever you want it to be, danny BOY.

-- Tom

Come on, Tommy.
There are so many people reading this interaction.
They are seeing your avoidance of such a fundamental identification.
I've presented the argument for why it can only be Lovelady and you have presented nothing but avoidance.
I know you don't care how that looks but I wish you could see it's damaging your credibility and undermining the work you did identifying Gloria in the first place.

Who is the man on the steps that Gloria is interacting with the moment she arrives at the steps?
I know that you know there's only one realistic possibility.
I know that's why you're avoiding answering my question.
Do you think you're somehow hidden by being evasive?
It's quite the opposite.


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Re: Lovelady in Darnell and it's Ramifications.
« Reply #250 on: October 01, 2025, 06:21:46 AM »
Darnell/Couch does Not show Lovelady standing on the viewers (R) side of the TSBD Steps. This is a different image. I believe it is a photo. I don't know for sure. With Lovelady allegedly being inside the TSBD for roughly 30 minutes, figuring out when this image was taken is important in the Lovelady timeline. Law Enforcement is visible manning the TSBD front door.

Storing,

Are you referring to the clips filmed by John Martin and Robert Hughes which show Lovelady smoking on the steps about 30 minutes after the last shot, and the film (by Tom Alyea?) showing him sitting in the Homicide and Burglary office as he's watching them bring Oswald in?

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Re: Lovelady in Darnell and it's Ramifications.
« Reply #251 on: October 01, 2025, 06:24:03 AM »
Storing,

Are you referring to the clips filmed by John Martin and Robert Hughes which show Lovelady smoking on the steps about 30 minutes after the last shot, and the film (by Tom Alyea?) showing him sitting in the Homicide and Burglary office as he's watching them bring Oswald in?

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Royell - serious question - can you actually see the images I'm posting?

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Re: Lovelady in Darnell and it's Ramifications.
« Reply #252 on: October 01, 2025, 06:54:08 AM »
Royell - serious question - can you actually see the images I'm posting?

   Yes, I can see the images you are posting. Those images are Couch/Darnell.  They do not show Lovelady standing on the side of the TSBD steps that are below the sniper's window.

   

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Re: Lovelady in Darnell and it's Ramifications.
« Reply #253 on: October 01, 2025, 07:01:07 AM »
Storing,

Are you referring to the clips filmed by John Martin and Robert Hughes which show Lovelady smoking on the steps about 30 minutes after the last shot, and the film (by Tom Alyea?) showing him sitting in the Homicide and Burglary office as he's watching them bring Oswald in?

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   I just checked and these Color film images showing Lovelady are Not from the Martin Film. This footage is shot from further away from the TSBD. There are no regular citizens standing on the TSBD Landing. Just law enforcement up there. The Martin Film has regular people standing up there with Lovelady standing below them. This is not Martin Film footage.

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Re: Lovelady in Darnell and it's Ramifications.
« Reply #254 on: October 01, 2025, 07:02:40 AM »
I just checked and these Color film images showing Lovelady are not from the Martin Film. This footage is shot from further away from the TSBD. There are no regular citizens standing on the TSBD Landing. Just law enforcement up there. The Martin Film has regular people standing up there with Lovelady standing below them. This is not Martin Film footage.

Where can I see the image or images you're referring to?
« Last Edit: October 01, 2025, 07:08:09 AM by Tom Graves »

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Re: Lovelady in Darnell and it's Ramifications.
« Reply #255 on: October 01, 2025, 12:07:02 PM »
   Yes, I can see the images you are posting. Those images are Couch/Darnell.  They do not show Lovelady standing on the side of the TSBD steps that are below the sniper's window.

This is a still from the Darnell footage taken around 25 - 30 seconds after the head shot.
What is your guess at the man I have identified as Lovelady.
Tom has bailed out on this identification because he knows it can only be Lovelady but has put all his eggs into the Kamp basket.
In this image we see Baker just about to reach the area near the bottom of the front steps.



As for the colour image you are referring to, is it something like this:



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