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Re: Lovelady in Darnell and it's Ramifications.
« Reply #182 on: September 27, 2025, 07:34:03 PM »

  You gotta remember these images are from 1963. Men/Boys did Not walk closely alongside each other or even sit closely together on the bench seat of an auto. So, 1 guy walking ahead of the other on the Dunkel images does Not mean they do not know each other or are not walking down the Elm St Ext together. Yeah, the images are not Proof this is Shelley/Lovelady, but their attire does fit along with their size disparity. There are plenty of men wearing suits, but Lovelady's shirt "color clash" is tough to find anywhere else inside Dealey Plaza. The Joan Rivers "Fashion Police" would have been all over that thing.

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Re: Lovelady in Darnell and it's Ramifications.
« Reply #183 on: September 27, 2025, 08:35:51 PM »
It's not like I care about this silly issue, but I fail to understand how the enhanced photos at Prayer Man don't settle it, as they did for Bart Kamp and do for me, I apparently can't post the images, but they clearly show Lovelady's distinctive shirt. Do people think these were faked or something?

Look halfway down the page, where Bart says "I applied various ways of sharpening with overall decent results to be absolutely positive that these two are Shelley and Lovelady. Lovelady’s shirt is a dead give away and so is the shape of Shelley, compare that with the collage below."

http://www.prayer-man.com/billy-nolan-lovelady-and-bill-shellly-did-leave-the-steps-almost-immediately-after-the-shots-were-fired/
« Last Edit: September 27, 2025, 08:36:42 PM by Lance Payette »

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Re: Lovelady in Darnell and it's Ramifications.
« Reply #184 on: September 27, 2025, 09:36:21 PM »

  You're late to the party involving the multiple issues surrounding the ID of these 2 guys moving down the Elm St Ext. The credibility of the WC testimonies of (1) Lovelady, (2) Shelley, & (3) Adams, hang in the balance of ID'ing these 2 guys. Also the ID of (4) Calvery, and (5) The current timeline assigned to this Couch Film snippet showing these 2 guys moving down the Elm Ext. "Prayer Man" has always been a One Trick Pony. 

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Re: Lovelady in Darnell and it's Ramifications.
« Reply #185 on: September 27, 2025, 10:03:06 PM »
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Dear Comrade Storing,

How is the correct identification, by Sandy Larsen and me, of big/tall dark-blue-blouse-wearing / dark-blue-headscarf-wearing / plaid-skirt-wearing Gloria Calvery and her three headscarf-wearing South-West Publishing Company colleagues on Elm Street during the motorcade, and the concomitant correct identification of black-blouse-wearing / black-headscarf-wearing / plaid-skirt-wearing Calvery and her all-in-white colleague (Karan Hicks or Carol Reed) as they're standing on (or going up) the TSBD steps in the black-and-white Couch-Darnell clip a "one-trick pony"?

Because it doesn't support your grandiose OFFICER JOE MARSHALL SMITH AND THE HUGE GATES conspiracy theory?

-- Tom
« Last Edit: September 27, 2025, 11:18:19 PM by Tom Graves »

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Re: Lovelady in Darnell and it's Ramifications.
« Reply #186 on: September 27, 2025, 10:49:15 PM »
  "One Trick Pony" is in reference to the "Prayer Man" issue.  The power of The Ring is consuming you.
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Re: Lovelady in Darnell and it's Ramifications.
« Reply #187 on: September 27, 2025, 10:54:15 PM »
"One Trick Pony" is in reference to the "Prayer Man" issue.

You mean you don't support danny BOY o'meara's conspiracy theory that involves Calvary's bellowing at Lovelady on the steps about 25 seconds after the final shot?
« Last Edit: September 27, 2025, 10:54:46 PM by Tom Graves »

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Re: Lovelady in Darnell and it's Ramifications.
« Reply #188 on: September 27, 2025, 11:45:36 PM »
  You're late to the party involving the multiple issues surrounding the ID of these 2 guys moving down the Elm St Ext. The credibility of the WC testimonies of (1) Lovelady, (2) Shelley, & (3) Adams, hang in the balance of ID'ing these 2 guys. Also the ID of (4) Calvery, and (5) The current timeline assigned to this Couch Film snippet showing these 2 guys moving down the Elm Ext. "Prayer Man" has always been a One Trick Pony.
You show your ignorance here. I happen to think the Prayer Man theory is goofy, but the Prayer Man site is a goldmine and Bart Kamp has done invaluable work. The photo disposes of any issue as to whether that was Shelley and Lovelady walking down the dead-end portion of Elm as they claimed. I did a very intensive study of everything Shelley and Lovelady ever said, and there were no great inconsistencies. The only real outlier (or is that "out liar") is Adams, Apparently the fact that Sandra Styles disagreed with everything Adams said means "they" got to her, too, eh?