Ruth Paine Has Passed Away

[Lance Payette]

Max Good, the maker of "The Assassination and Mrs. Paine," posted a lukewarm statement about the passing of Ruth that concluded with:

I had a lot of respect for Ruth’s strength of character and her willingness to speak to people with different perspectives on the assassination. As I’ve said elsewhere, I sometimes suspected that she secretly wanted the truth to come out, but she was under such a burden that she couldn’t say anything too revealing.

As fate would have it, I read this morning a blog about conspiracy thinking at the website of the American Philosophical Association. The above quote from Max Good illustrates one of the points the author made. Conspiracy theories by their very nature are completely unfalsifiable because the goalposts just keep moving. Evidence contradicts the theory - voila, it was faked or planted. Testimony is contrary to the theory - voila, the conspirators got to the witness; it just shows how clever they were. The Klein's money order was found at the federal records center where processed money orders were stored (thank you, Lance) - voila, it was obviously planted there (thank you, Sandy Larsen). The goal posts just keep moving until you have so many conspirators, so much faked, planted and altered evidence, and so many convoluted twists and turns that the conspirators would have to have been Satan and his demons.

Ruth never wavered throughout 92 years of living. Nevertheless, now that she's gone we tell ourselves that she "secretly wanted to tell the truth" but was "under such a burden" that she "couldn't say anything too revealing." Voila, now she still fits right into our conspiracy theory, no problem.

What "truth"? What "burden"? At 80, 85, 90, 92? How about: She did tell the truth and was under no burden at all? Isn't that more plausible?

[Bill Binnie]

Hostility ? You lone nutters are amusing - Like watching a poor drunk stumbling down a street - Lets get back to debate 101 like they taught in school and not float silly and ancillary information-  Bottom Line is that a Lone Nutter needs to believe that the only way there is a crappy old carcano rifle in the Paine garage on November 21 is because Ruth and Marina drove home with it, took it out of the station wagon in Dallas and placed the bundle on the garage floor without a seconds thought of what it contained so they might know where and how it should be stored- After you are done here, tell me why Ruth told the the team of Officers at her door on the afternoon of 11.22.63 why she was expecting them- I am ready to be further amused Mr. Nutter- 

[Tim Nickerson]

Hostility ? You lone nutters are amusing - Like watching a poor drunk stumbling down a street - Lets get back to debate 101 like they taught in school and not float silly and ancillary information-  Bottom Line is that a Lone Nutter needs to believe that the only way there is a crappy old carcano rifle in the Paine garage on November 21 is because Ruth and Marina drove home with it, took it out of the station wagon in Dallas and placed the bundle on the garage floor without a seconds thought of what it contained so they might know where and how it should be stored- After you are done here, tell me why Ruth told the the team of Officers at her door on the afternoon of 11.22.63 why she was expecting them- I am ready to be further amused Mr. Nutter-

I personally don't need to believe that Oswald's Carcano was in the Paine garage on November 21. However, I have no doubt that it was. Why do you doubt that it was? Come up with a reasonable explanation for when and how Oswald got his rifle into the TSBD. Where did he keep it stored? When did he bring it into the TSBD?

[Bill Binnie]

I assume you know all about the multiple versions ( a,b,c ,d, et al)  of this photo and the very curcuitous paths they each travelled? Did you ever wonder why the clothes the man is wearing in these photos were not among Oswalds belongings? Oswald was not a slave to fashion and these duds must have cost the perpetually broke Oswald dearly- Marina said he did not have clothes like the man in the picture- Weird, dont ya think? You lone nutters will have to work overtime on the disinformation for this one-

[Martin Weidmann]

I personally don't need to believe that Oswald's Carcano was in the Paine garage on November 21. However, I have no doubt that it was. Why do you doubt that it was? Come up with a reasonable explanation for when and how Oswald got his rifle into the TSBD. Where did he keep it stored? When did he bring it into the TSBD?

I personally don't need to believe that Oswald's Carcano was in the Paine garage on November 21.

Really?

However, I have no doubt that it was.

Really? Based on what evidence?

Why do you doubt that it was?

Huh? Perhaps, because there is not a shred of evidence that it was. Does that make sense to you?

Come up with a reasonable explanation for when and how Oswald got his rifle into the TSBD.

Why? Do you have any reasonable evidence that Oswald ever "got his rifle into the TSBD"?

Where did he keep it stored?

What makes you think that he stored a rifle at any location?

When did he bring it into the TSBD?

What makes you think he brought a rifle into the TSBD?

[Bill Binnie]

I personally don't need to believe that Oswald's Carcano was in the Paine garage on November 21. However, I have no doubt that it was. Why do you doubt that it was? Come up with a reasonable explanation for when and how Oswald got his rifle into the TSBD. Where did he keep it stored? When did he bring it into the TSBD?

??  Where do you think the carcano rifle was? Buried at Love field the entire time? I dont doubt a rifle was there- I DOUBT Ruth Paine had no clue about a rifle is my position- Since I dont think Oswald brought a rifle anywhere on 11.22.63 dont think he shot anyone, since the sixth floor shooter used  a mauser rifle, your other postulations are irrelavant to me-

[Tim Nickerson]

I personally don't need to believe that Oswald's Carcano was in the Paine garage on November 21.

Really?

Really.

However, I have no doubt that it was.

Really? Based on what evidence?

Based on the testimony of Marina Oswald.

Why do you doubt that it was?

Huh? Perhaps, because there is not a shred of evidence that it was. Does that make sense to you?

See above.

Come up with a reasonable explanation for when and how Oswald got his rifle into the TSBD.

Why? Do you have any reasonable evidence that Oswald ever "got his rifle into the TSBD"?

His rifle was found there.

Where did he keep it stored?

What makes you think that he stored a rifle at any location?

Marina said he did.

When did he bring it into the TSBD?

What makes you think he brought a rifle into the TSBD?

His rifle was found there.