Ruth Paine Has Passed Away

[Tom Graves]

Ruth Paine was instrumental in setting up Oswald as the patsy. As a 21-year veteran of military intelligence, my curiosity about Paine was sparked when I learned that she studied Russian at the Middlebury Language School. Intelligence agencies frequently sent people to Middlebury to learn foreign languages in the school's language-immersion program, and Middlebury was very expensive. In the 1990s, I was slated to attend Middlebury but then my battalion's training budget got cut and my slot had to be cancelled. As many here probably already know, Ruth Paine had a wide range of intelligence connections, as did her husband.

On the day of the assassination, barely 30 minutes after the shooting, Michael Paine called his home to talk to Ruth. Among other things, he said he thought Oswald was the shooter but didn't think Oswald was the one who was responsible for JFK's death, and then he added, "We both know who is responsible" (FBI 105-82555 Oswald HQ File, Section 83, p. 75). Mind you, Oswald had not even been arrested yet.

Some recommended articles on Ruth Paine's role in the JFK case:

https://www.jfkpaine.com/the-story/

https://aarclibrary.org/the-jfk-case-the-twelve-who-built-the-oswald-legend-part-11-the-paines-carry-the-weight/

https://www.kennedysandking.com/john-f-kennedy-reviews/the-assassination-and-mrs-paine-part-1

https://www.kennedysandking.com/john-f-kennedy-reviews/the-assassination-and-mrs-paine-part-2

https://www.kennedysandking.com/john-f-kennedy-articles/our-lady-of-the-warren-commission-part-1-2

https://www.kennedysandking.com/john-f-kennedy-articles/our-lady-of-the-warren-commission-part-2-2

http://22november1963.org.uk/george-de-mohrenschildt-i-am-a-patsy

https://www.kennedysandking.com/john-f-kennedy-articles/a-new-look-at-the-enigma-of-the-backyard-photographs-part-5#_nref1

Some recommended videos on her involvement in maneuvering Oswald to be the fall guy:

Comrade Griffith,

One wonders if she or her husband knew Oswald's mentor, George DeMohrenschildt, whom a CIA Counterintelligence analyst by the name of Clare Edward Petty determined, by reading some WW II VENONA decrypts in the early 1970s, was very probably a long-term KGB "illegal."

-- Tom

[Lance Payette]

Kind of an interesting counterpoint was provided at the Ed Forum this morning. A thread about Ruth's death appeared directly above a now-5-page thread about the passing of Sandy Larsen. The majority of the comments about Ruth are in the vein of Michael's over-the-top lunacy. With Sandy, however, even Jimbo agrees we have lost a sagacious JFKA statesman of the first magnitude. Because I like to think I have a bit more class than Michael, I will merely point out that Sandy, may he RIP, was a Harvey & Lee enthusiast who insisted he had proved - proved I tell you - that the body exhumed in 1981 was not Oswald.

[Tom Graves]

Kind of an interesting counterpoint was provided at the Ed Forum this morning. A thread about Ruth's death appeared directly above a now-5-page thread about the passing of Sandy Larsen. The majority of the comments about Ruth are in the vein of Michael's over-the-top lunacy. With Sandy, however, even Jimbo agrees we have lost a sagacious JFKA statesman of the first magnitude. Because I like to think I have a bit more class than Michael, I will merely point out that Sandy, may he RIP, was a Harvey & Lee enthusiast who insisted he had proved - proved I tell you - that the body exhumed in 1981 was not Oswald.

And that the evil, evil CIA sent a never-identified short, blond-haired, skinny, 30-something, very-thin-faced agent to Mexico City to impersonate KGB Colonel Nikolai Leonov (whom I identified about ten years ago as "The Blond Oswald In Mexico City") so that the CIA (or at least I) could later claim that Leonov was the short, blond-haired, skinny, 30-something, very-thin-faced "Oswald" who had visited the Cuban Consulate on 27 September 1963 (and maybe even on Saturday the 28th!) in a vain attempt to get a transit visa to Cuba, and thereby incriminate Fidel Castro and/or world-class humanitarian Nikita Khrushchev for the assassination.

In other words, Larsen believed that the CIA was so evil, evil, evil that it impersonated impersonators!

Such is the caliber of the so-called "JFK Assassination Debate - Education Forum."

[Steve M. Galbraith]

Kind of an interesting counterpoint was provided at the Ed Forum this morning. A thread about Ruth's death appeared directly above a now-5-page thread about the passing of Sandy Larsen. The majority of the comments about Ruth are in the vein of Michael's over-the-top lunacy. With Sandy, however, even Jimbo agrees we have lost a sagacious JFKA statesman of the first magnitude. Because I like to think I have a bit more class than Michael, I will merely point out that Sandy, may he RIP, was a Harvey & Lee enthusiast who insisted he had proved - proved I tell you - that the body exhumed in 1981 was not Oswald.

Re Mr. Larsen: When it was pointed out that Ruth Paine learned about a possible job opening at the TSBD from Linnie Mae Randle who, in turn, had heard about it from her brother Buell Frazier (who had gotten a job there several months before), Mr. Larsen simply amended his theory to include Randle and Frazier in his CIA accomplices who had set up Oswald. In fact, he said the entire TSBD was a CIA front business.

Classic textbook conspiracy thinking: If your explanation doesn't make sense, isn't correct, simply add another layer of conspiracies to straighten it out. The ancient Greek tragedists used to use a "deus ex machina" - a god (or gods) entering a story - to untangle any plot problems; conspiracists have "the CIA."

[Steve M. Galbraith]

If Frazier doesn't get the job (through an employment agency) at the TSBD then Randle doesn't know about it. She can't tell Ruth Paine about any possible opening since she learned about it through Frazier (her brother).

If Randle forgets about the job then Ruth Paine doesn't know about it. Or if Frazier is fired, quits, finds a new job, et cetera.

If Roy Truly takes the call from Ruth Paine and says there are no job openings then Oswald doesn't get the job. If Oswald isn't interested, he doesn't get the job. If he has a poor interview he doesn't get the job. If he quits, gets fired (he had a history of this), then he has no job there.

All of these factors/possibilities (and more) are uncontrollable, are beyond the capabilities of humans to control. We all recognize it.

But in conspiracy world such matters are waved away. "The CIA", the "Deep State", the "them" and "they" are capable of anything. We continue to think we can reason with people who think like this. We can't.

Tracy Parnell goes over this in greater detail here: https://wtracyparnell.blogspot.com/search/label/The%20Assassination%20and%20Mrs.%20Paine

[Tommy Shanks]

If Frazier doesn't get the job (through an employment agency) at the TSBD then Randle doesn't know about it. She can't tell Ruth Paine about any possible opening since she learned about it through Frazier (her brother).

If Randle forgets about the job then Ruth Paine doesn't know about it. Or if Frazier is fired, quits, finds a new job, et cetera.

If Roy Truly takes the call from Ruth Paine and says there are no job openings then Oswald doesn't get the job. If Oswald isn't interested, he doesn't get the job. If he has a poor interview he doesn't get the job. If he quits, gets fired (he had a history of this), then he has no job there.

All of these factors/possibilities (and more) are uncontrollable, are beyond the capabilities of humans to control. We all recognize it.

But in conspiracy world such matters are waved away. "The CIA", the "Deep State", the "them" and "they" are capable of anything. We continue to think we can reason with people who think like this. We can't.

Tracy Parnell goes over this in greater detail here: https://wtracyparnell.blogspot.com/search/label/The%20Assassination%20and%20Mrs.%20Paine

Excellent post, Steven. The level of ignorance on that Education Forum thread is really astounding, including the new moderator insisting that Ruth "framed Oswald for murder." As for Sandy Larsen's nonsense theories and reign of terror as a moderator, the less said, the better.

[Richard Smith]

Have any of the CTers added Ruth Paine to their list of "mysterious deaths"?  It took a long while, but the death squad apparently got to her before she could talk.   She was next on the list after Clint Hill.