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Offline Richard Smith

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Re: Ruth Paine Has Passed Away
« Reply #49 on: September 20, 2025, 04:15:52 PM »
Even accepting the pedantic contrarian interpretation of Marina's testimony about the rifle, it proves the following:

1) LHO owned a rifle in the months leading up to the assassination.
2) He kept that rifle in Paine's garage.
3) It was missing on 11.22.63 when the police showed up and Marina directed them to the location that she expected them to find it.
4) There is no accounting for that rifle as any other than the one found in the TSBD.

What else do we know?

1) That if Oswald owned a rifle, he lied about such ownership when questioned about it by the police.
2) He ordered and was sent a rifle with a specific serial number.
3) A rifle with that same serial number was found in the TSBD.  Oswald's place of employment.
4) Oswald's prints were on that rifle.
5) There is zero evidence that any person other than Oswald owned or possessed the rifle found in the TSBD in the months leading up to the assassination.
6) There is zero evidence that Oswald owned any other rifle than the one left in the TSBD.
7) Oswald was pictured with the rifle left at the TSBD.

All of this overwhelmingly links Oswald to a specific rifle and that rifle to the crime.

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Re: Ruth Paine Has Passed Away
« Reply #50 on: September 20, 2025, 04:43:15 PM »
Even accepting the pedantic contrarian interpretation of Marina's testimony about the rifle, it proves the following:

1) LHO owned a rifle in the months leading up to the assassination.
2) He kept that rifle in Paine's garage.
3) It was missing on 11.22.63 when the police showed up and Marina directed them to the location that she expected them to find it.
4) There is no accounting for that rifle as any other than the one found in the TSBD.

What else do we know?

1) That if Oswald owned a rifle, he lied about such ownership when questioned about it by the police.
2) He ordered and was sent a rifle with a specific serial number.
3) A rifle with that same serial number was found in the TSBD.  Oswald's place of employment.
4) Oswald's prints were on that rifle.
5) There is zero evidence that any person other than Oswald owned or possessed the rifle found in the TSBD in the months leading up to the assassination.
6) There is zero evidence that Oswald owned any other rifle than the one left in the TSBD.
7) Oswald was pictured with the rifle left at the TSBD.

All of this overwhelmingly links Oswald to a specific rifle and that rifle to the crime.

Dear Richard,

Don't you realize the oodles and gobs of "Deep State" (as defined pre-Trump / pre-MAGA) operatives arranged all of those things to make it look as though the self-described Marxist and former Marine sharpshooter by the name of Lee Harvey Oswald did it?

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Re: Ruth Paine Has Passed Away
« Reply #51 on: September 20, 2025, 11:05:23 PM »
Dear Richard,

Don't you realize the oodles and gobs of "Deep State" (as defined pre-Trump / pre-MAGA) operatives arranged all of those things to make it look as though the self-described Marxist and former Marine sharpshooter by the name of Lee Harvey Oswald did it?

-- Tom

Comrade Tomsky. 

I thought the KGB and Russia were behind all events in human history.  Keep up the good work. 

Your pal Putin.

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Re: Ruth Paine Has Passed Away
« Reply #52 on: September 20, 2025, 11:25:07 PM »
Comrade Tomsky. 

I thought the KGB and Russia were behind all events in human history.  Keep up the good work. 

Your pal Putin.

Dear Comrade Smith,

Your hero, "former" KGB counterintelligence officer Vladimir Putin, cherishes The Traitorous Orange Bird (rhymes with "Xxxx") almost as much as you do.

-- Tom

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Re: Ruth Paine Has Passed Away
« Reply #53 on: November 22, 2025, 10:07:48 PM »
Even accepting the pedantic contrarian interpretation of Marina's testimony about the rifle, it proves the following:

1) LHO owned a rifle in the months leading up to the assassination.
2) He kept that rifle in Paine's garage.
3) It was missing on 11.22.63 when the police showed up and Marina directed them to the location that she expected them to find it.
4) There is no accounting for that rifle as any other than the one found in the TSBD.

What else do we know?

1) That if Oswald owned a rifle, he lied about such ownership when questioned about it by the police.
2) He ordered and was sent a rifle with a specific serial number.
3) A rifle with that same serial number was found in the TSBD.  Oswald's place of employment.
4) Oswald's prints were on that rifle.
5) There is zero evidence that any person other than Oswald owned or possessed the rifle found in the TSBD in the months leading up to the assassination.
6) There is zero evidence that Oswald owned any other rifle than the one left in the TSBD.
7) Oswald was pictured with the rifle left at the TSBD.

All of this overwhelmingly links Oswald to a specific rifle and that rifle to the crime.


1) LHO owned a rifle in the months leading up to the assassination.

How exactly does it prove that?

2) He kept that rifle in Paine's garage.

How does it prove that?

3) It was missing on 11.22.63 when the police showed up and Marina directed them to the location that she expected them to find it.

What was missing on 11.22.63? The rifle that you can't prove was ever there or the rifle that was later found at the TSDB, which you also can not prove?

4) There is no accounting for that rifle as any other than the one found in the TSBD.

Accounting for what rifle? Since when does "it must be the same rifle" become proof of anything?


What else do we know?

1) That if Oswald owned a rifle, he lied about such ownership when questioned about it by the police.


And how exactly do we know "Oswald owned a rifle"?

2) He ordered and was sent a rifle with a specific serial number.

Really? Are you sure about that? Got any actual evidence to back up that claim?

3) A rifle with that same serial number was found in the TSBD.  Oswald's place of employment.

What same serial number? Do you have any credible evidence that Oswald ever owned a rifle with the serial number of the one found at the TSBD?

4) Oswald's prints were on that rifle.

Really? How could that be when the FBI couldn't find any prints on the rifle when they examined it only hours after the assassination?

5) There is zero evidence that any person other than Oswald owned or possessed the rifle found in the TSBD in the months leading up to the assassination.
6) There is zero evidence that Oswald owned any other rifle than the one left in the TSBD.


Absence of evidence isn't evidence.

7) Oswald was pictured with the rifle left at the TSBD.

Really? Can you show me the serial number of the rifle in one of the BY photos? Or is it, just like everything else, merely your own pathetic opinion?