How exactly did the shooter get down from the sixth floor?

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Online Royell Storing

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Re: How exactly did the shooter get down from the sixth floor?
« Reply #24 on: May 02, 2025, 08:14:36 PM »
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  Govt body finds, "probable Conspiracy" and 4 Shots Fired, and you do not find that as being "significant"? You guys continue going the smorgasbord route. Cherry picking. It's ALL you can do. And then there's the Blow-out wound in the BACK of JFK's head that was documented by the Parkland Hospital Dr's. You run away from that Evidence and then turn around and embrace the Bethesda Autopsy of a Stolen Body. This is the MO you have been forced to adopt.   

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Re: How exactly did the shooter get down from the sixth floor?
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Offline Lance Payette

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Re: How exactly did the shooter get down from the sixth floor?
« Reply #25 on: May 02, 2025, 08:37:01 PM »
  Govt body finds, "probable Conspiracy" and 4 Shots Fired, and you do not find that as being "significant"? You guys continue going the smorgasbord route. Cherry picking. It's ALL you can do. And then there's the Blow-out wound in the BACK of JFK's head that was documented by the Parkland Hospital Dr's. You run away from that Evidence and then turn around and embrace the Bethesda Autopsy of a Stolen Body. This is the MO you have been forced to adopt.   

What is the cherry-picking? The HSCA was 98% the Warren Commission II. The HSCA at the last minute found a conspiracy solely on the basis of a dubious scientific analysis of a dubious Dictabelt recording. If the analysis on which the HSCA relied were not suspect, and if the source and interpretation of the Dictabelt recording were not still being debated today, the HSCA's finding would perhaps be of significance. In reality, not so much. Tink Thompson's most recent book was widely viewed as a disappointment by the CT community precisely because he placed so much emphasis on the Dictabelt. What CTers try to do is to suggest the HSCA reached fundamentally different conclusions from the WC. No, the HSCA report is like the WC report all over again, with the exception of an appendix tacked on at the end that is almost surely incorrect.

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Re: How exactly did the shooter get down from the sixth floor?
« Reply #26 on: May 02, 2025, 08:56:12 PM »

  I would challenge that "last minute" characterization. It took some time to do the testing inside Dealey Plaza and then go through that data. That "last minute" stuff is more LN Baloney.

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Re: How exactly did the shooter get down from the sixth floor?
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Offline Lance Payette

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Re: How exactly did the shooter get down from the sixth floor?
« Reply #27 on: May 02, 2025, 09:12:38 PM »
  I would challenge that "last minute" characterization. It took some time to do the testing inside Dealey Plaza and then go through that data. That "last minute" stuff is more LN Baloney.

We could debate the "last minute" characterization, but the fact is that the HSCA had already prepared its draft final report finding that Oswald was the lone assassin. Perhaps "very late in its investigation" would make you happier.

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Re: How exactly did the shooter get down from the sixth floor?
« Reply #28 on: May 02, 2025, 09:33:06 PM »

  Went through this same thing with the ARRB. The funding/$$ runs out. Nothing screwy about that. You guys are all about the SCIENCE until it doesn't suit your fancy. Then you do your best to Trash it. Same playbook was thrown at the Knott Lab Forensic SCIENCE that was used to find the SBT, "IS IMPOSSIBLE". Double Standards are your specialty. As SCIENCE advances, you're having to do this trashing of SCIENCE more and more. The jigs up!

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Re: How exactly did the shooter get down from the sixth floor?
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Re: How exactly did the shooter get down from the sixth floor?
« Reply #29 on: May 03, 2025, 11:17:35 PM »
For the conspiracists it's always "the Warren Commission, the Warren Commission, the Warren Commission." For them it's always 1964, there's been nothing else. When we cite the HSCA or the Rockefeller Commission or the Church Committee or the news media investigations we get the same hand waving and excuses. Coverups and coverups and coverups.

Okay, so we'll just cite the HSCA. Will that be acceptable? Of course not.

Over these six plus decades we've had multiple generations of Americans in the government and out investigate this event. Directly and indirectly. Now all of the documents have been released. Everything is out there. And the Oswald cult like defenders respond with their faith based rejection of everything. Logic, facts, reason are all dismissed as speculation and conjecture.

How about you stop quoting scripture and pretending that it is "evidence" or that it is "logic, facts, and reason"?

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Re: How exactly did the shooter get down from the sixth floor?
« Reply #30 on: May 03, 2025, 11:20:58 PM »
Oh, thank you. That was sooooo predictable I was going to post it myself in reply to Steve, perhaps in a more ironic vein than you intended.

Remove the last-minute Dictabelt "evidence" from the equation, and the HSCA was pretty much the Warren Commission II with the exception of dubiously moving the head wound entry. You know that, so why do CTers keep repeating this canard as though it were significant?

Remove the non-evidence and speculative, handwaving storytelling from both the WCR conclusions and the HSCA conclusions and you wind up with a giant nothing burger.  So why do LN evangelists cite ANY of the conclusions as though they are significant?

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Re: How exactly did the shooter get down from the sixth floor?
« Reply #31 on: May 03, 2025, 11:50:31 PM »
Remove the non-evidence and speculative, handwaving storytelling from both the WCR conclusions and the HSCA conclusions and you wind up with a giant nothing burger.  So why do LN evangelists cite ANY of the conclusions as though they are significant?

Iacoletti,

How many evil, evil people do you figure were wittingly involved in the planning, the "patsy-ing," the shooting, and the all-important cover up?

Just a few, or oodles and gobs?

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Re: How exactly did the shooter get down from the sixth floor?
« Reply #31 on: May 03, 2025, 11:50:31 PM »