Oswald: No power lunch

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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Oswald: No power lunch
« Reply #371 on: September 15, 2021, 12:22:35 AM »
The usual sh*t but I'll make the points that need making.

"She said within a matter of ten seconds a uniform police officer in a white helmet ran into the building"
FBI interview of Pauline Sanders
Sanders was also stood on the steps.
You should know all this but you don't.
It's the basics.

The Darnell film shows Baker approaching the steps of the TSBD.
All you could say to that was "approaching" -- LOL
But it does.
What do you have to say about that?

"She said within a matter of ten seconds a uniform police officer in a white helmet ran into the building"

I know that she didn't have a stop watch..... But TEN SECONDS????

Baker was on his motorcycle on Houston street near the intersection of Houston and Main at the time of the first shot....The shots cover a time span of about 6 seconds ..... so Baker would have had to have traveled about a block and jumped off his bike and ran into the TSBD in about 16 seconds from the sound of the first shot.....   I don't believe it!

Offline Dan O'meara

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Re: Oswald: No power lunch
« Reply #372 on: September 15, 2021, 12:26:20 AM »
"She said within a matter of ten seconds a uniform police officer in a white helmet ran into the building"

I know that she didn't have a stop watch..... But TEN SECONDS????

Baker was on his motorcycle on Houston street near the intersection of Houston and Main at the time of the first shot....The shots cover a time span of about 6 seconds ..... so Baker would have had to have traveled about a block and jumped off his bike and ran into the TSBD in about 16 seconds from the sound of the first shot.....   I don't believe it!

It's a guess.
She's emphasising the speed he arrived.
As you point out, she didn't have a stopwatch

Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Oswald: No power lunch
« Reply #373 on: September 15, 2021, 12:34:07 AM »
It's a guess.
She's emphasising the speed he arrived.
As you point out, she didn't have a stopwatch

I'm not looking for an argument..... But what would you calculate as a reasonable time span?

Perhaps 30 seconds from the sound of the first shot?   

Offline Dan O'meara

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Re: Oswald: No power lunch
« Reply #374 on: September 15, 2021, 12:36:44 AM »
I'm not looking for an argument..... But what would you calculate as a reasonable time span?

Perhaps 30 seconds from the sound of the first shot?

That seems reasonable

Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Oswald: No power lunch
« Reply #375 on: September 15, 2021, 04:01:10 AM »
And Fantasia Ford knows it was an assassination team vouched for by Truly.

And who does Mr O'Meara think was the man Officer Baker caught walking away from the rear stairway several floors up?

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Fantasia Ford makes up a story about Baker not recognising Oswald and is corrected by actual evidence and can't take it.

~Grin~

The actual evidence----------Officer Baker's same-day affidavit, during the writing of which Mr Oswald was brought in in front of Officer Baker---------tells us that Officer Baker did not make any firm connection between the man caught walking away from the rear stairway and the suspect just brought in.

The fact that Officer Baker was not brought to a lineup only makes things worse for your silly claim!  Thumb1:

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Only Fantasia Ford would require before-the-fact corroboration.

No, during-the-fact corroboration would do the trick-----------------if Officer Baker confidently identified the suspect just brought in as the man he caught walking away from the rear stairway, Det. Johnson would have made sure this all-important fact made it into the affidavit. At the very, very least, Officer Baker would have been brought to a lineup. None of this happened

Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Oswald: No power lunch
« Reply #376 on: September 15, 2021, 04:03:12 AM »
No sign of Baker according to Molina, destroys any hope of Baker/Truly making it to the lunchroom in 90 seconds.....

What destroys any hope of their making it to the lunchroom is Officer Baker's same-day affidavit

Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Oswald: No power lunch
« Reply #377 on: September 15, 2021, 04:07:24 AM »
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Calvary was stood at the bottom of the steps when Truly ran up them.
She was telling Lovelady what had happened.

Correct!  Thumb1:

So Mr Lovelady lied to the WC about where he was when he saw Officer Baker and Mr Truly heading for the front door.

And Mr Shelley told one story involving Ms Calvary in his same-day affidavit, a very different one to the WC.

The question is-------------------why?

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When she entered the building Molina had moved into the lobby.

Only after he left the front of the building, went west and reentered by the side door. (Read his HSCA interview!)
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