Oswald: No power lunch

Users Currently Browsing This Topic:
0 Members

Author Topic: Oswald: No power lunch  (Read 230427 times)

Online Tom Graves

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3495
Re: Oswald: No power lunch
« Reply #581 on: June 29, 2025, 09:24:16 AM »
There is a batch of Murray pics taken where the Elm St extension runs into the car park towards the railroad tracks. In this one I believe we see Amos Euins (circled):

host pictures


This puts this pic at before 12:36 PM when wee see Euins being whisked away from this area by Harkness in the Martin film. Here is a Murray pic of the area we see Harkness taking Euins away. Not the large gates of the TSBD are open:



The reason I keep mentioning the large gates is because of Mooney's testimony:

"Mr. Ball.
Were the doors open?

Mr. Mooney.
They were wide open, the big gates. So I grabbed one, and we swung them to, and there was a citizen there, and I put him on orders to keep them shut, because I don't recall whether there was a lock on them or not. Didn't want to lock them because you never know what might happen.
So he stood guard, I assume, until a uniformed officer took over.
We shut the back door--there was a back door on a little dock. And then we went in through the docks, through the rear entrance."


It is safe to assume that at the time of the assassination these gates were open until Mooney had them closed. The Murray pics above are before the gates are closed, the Alyea clip of Sawyer escorting Brennan to the car is after the gates are closed, so the gates provide a very basic timestamp. Kind of.

Over at the JFK Truth Be Told FB page, Jerry Dealey posted a big color photo of the gates with the diamonds on them. He wrote, "Hard to tell, but hinges appear to be on the outside, indicating it swung out."

Online Dan O'meara

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3774
Re: Oswald: No power lunch
« Reply #582 on: June 30, 2025, 05:26:28 PM »
Over at the JFK Truth Be Told FB page, Jerry Dealey posted a big color photo of the gates with the diamonds on them. He wrote, "Hard to tell, but hinges appear to be on the outside, indicating it swung out."



In the still from the Martin film above it looks like the gates are closed but they're not.
When the gates are wide open they rest against the interior wall. The shadows of the diamond pattern on the gates can be seen being cast against the wall.
If the gates can swing outward they can also swing inward, as this is the position we see them in the above image.