Oswald: No power lunch

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Offline Rick Plant

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Re: Oswald: No power lunch
« Reply #574 on: November 16, 2021, 12:04:28 AM »
White caps denote members of the Traffic division, and an Inspector rank officer. Marvin Wise testified there were either 4 inspector ranked officers at the DPD at the time of the assassination, or that 4 of them were on duty, that day, I can't remember which.

I believe it was that 4 of them were on duty because Wise said there were 3 other officers with him.

Online Mitch Todd

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Re: Oswald: No power lunch
« Reply #575 on: November 16, 2021, 01:40:09 AM »
White caps denote members of the Traffic division, and an Inspector rank officer. Marvin Wise testified there were either 4 inspector ranked officers at the DPD at the time of the assassination, or that 4 of them were on duty, that day, I can't remember which.
Browsing Batchelor Exhibit 5002, and can only find there were "Inspectors of Police" in November 1963: Sawyer, Putnam, Jr, and Kockos.

Online Dan O'meara

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Re: Oswald: No power lunch
« Reply #576 on: November 16, 2021, 05:31:08 AM »
Go back to the channel two radio traffic. At 12:39-12:40, Howard reports that he is at Industrial. Given the context of the motorcade, and Howard's relationship to it, Howard must be at Industrial & I-35E by the Trade Mart. At that time, Howard is told to stay at his position. It would take the Sergeant at least 5 minutes to start up his motor, make it to Dealey Plaza, shut down, dismount, and appear at the front entrance. It's just possible to get him there by 12:45, but only just, and only if he completely discarded his orders to remain on Industrial.

I don't see any other traffic involving Howard in the "official" channel two transcript. He also doesn't reappear in O'Dell's version of the channel two recording. He seems to have stayed in place for a while on Industrial, at least as far as the radio traffic can tell us.

As for other Sergeants, Simpson says he's heading towards the TSBD at 12:43, but he's in charge of the Lemon avenue stretch of the route, so he's going to be a few minutes coming. It's hard to see how he could get to the front of the TSBD by 12:45.  Campbell headed up the effort along Main between Harwood and Field. He's close enough to get to Elm and Houston relatively quickly. His second assignment WRT the motorcade is to report to the Trade Mart after the motorcade has passed by his original station, so he might have already started heading towards the TSBD even before it became the hub of attention beginning at 12:35.

Or, maybe events shown in the clip happened later that either of us have been thinking.
Maybe.

I'm looking through the transcript of DPD tapes for channel 2 and can't find anything for Howard.
Am I missing something?



Online Mitch Todd

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Re: Oswald: No power lunch
« Reply #577 on: November 16, 2021, 05:43:44 AM »
I'm looking through the transcript of DPD tapes for channel 2 and can't find anything for Howard.
Am I missing something?



Consult the O'Dell version of the Channel 2 recording. That's the gold standard for channel 2.


Offline Robert Reeves

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Re: Oswald: No power lunch
« Reply #578 on: November 16, 2021, 01:15:35 PM »


I was fairly sure I had a document naming all four, but haven't found it.

I am curious to know who this officer is talking to the mystery person in the doorway. Looks like a senior officer, possibly one of these Inspectors (I noticed he's wearing a white shirt & possibly a formal suit, traffic cops with white caps appear to have normal dark shirts.

« Last Edit: November 16, 2021, 01:24:47 PM by Robert Reeves »

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Re: Oswald: No power lunch
« Reply #579 on: November 16, 2021, 02:58:44 PM »
Crops of Allen pictures.



Probably the same [unknown] officer that was speaking with the mystery man similar in appearance to Oswald. He appears to have been positioned in the TSBD doorway for a while.









Not sure if the same guy in the TSBD doorway was with Oswald when he was shot by Ruby.



Both have a faint slanted line down their cheek underneath the right eye

« Last Edit: November 16, 2021, 03:00:55 PM by Robert Reeves »

Online Royell Storing

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Re: Oswald: No power lunch
« Reply #580 on: June 28, 2025, 04:48:57 PM »
The clip below shows the moment Sawyer takes Brennan to the car.
In the background the large gates of the TSBD are closed.
In the Martin film these gates are open.
This seems to back up the assertion that the pic of Brennan in the car was at some point just before Sawyer makes the call with the suspect's description.



LATER EDIT:

In the above clip there are two police officers. I am very confident the one with the cigarette in his hand is Sawyer.
The other, judging by the insignia on his sleeve, is a sergeant. Could this be Sergeant Howard? If not, then maybe Harkness.