Oswald: No power lunch

[Dan O'meara]

The 95% Warren Gullible knows the assassination was the work of one man

And Fantasia Ford knows it was an assassination team vouched for by Truly.

Says the 95% Warren Gullible whose heart is broken by the fact that Officer Baker's affidavit omits to note that the man caught walking away from the rear stairway is none other than the man just now brought into the Homicide Bureau in handcuffs

Fantasia Ford makes up a story about Baker not recognising Oswald and is corrected by actual evidence and can't take it. 

A DPD cop provides after-the-fact corroboration for a DPD cop. Good enough for a 95% Warren Gullible

 
Only Fantasia Ford would require before-the-fact corroboration.



 

[Jerry Freeman]

Givens says he went down in the elevator at 1 or 2 minutes after 12:00, & that Givens forgot to close the gate, & that LHO (holding LHO's order board)(on the 6th floor) had asked him to shut the gate.

Study more thoroughly the inconceivable Charles Givens yarn------
https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,1960.msg52976.html#msg52976 

[Marjan Rynkiewicz]

Study more thoroughly the inconceivable Charles Givens yarn------
https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,1960.msg52976.html#msg52976

Givens' only contradiction is re seeing LHO in the Domino Room at about 11:50. Early on Givens says he did see LHO in the DR, later Givens says that he did not see LHO in the DR.

Williams heard 2 shots from above him -- which confirms my theory that LHO fired 2 shots.
https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=10406#relPageId=335

[Jerry Freeman]

Givens' only contradiction is re seeing LHO in the Domino Room at about 11:50. Early on Givens says he did see LHO in the DR, later Givens says that he did not see LHO in the DR.

Givens lied about seeing Oswald on the 6th floor.
Williams stated that he did go up to the 6th floor and saw no one. If one reads Givens' FBI report...he told them that he was on the 1st floor about 11:40 and then went outside. There are several other contradictions if one would bother to read the thread and it's links.

[Dan O'meara]

No sign of Baker according to Molina, destroys any hope of Baker/Truly making it to the lunchroom in 90 seconds.....

Mr. BALL. Did you see Mr. Truly go into the building?
Mr. MOLINA. Yes.
Mr. BALL. Where were you when you saw him go into the building?
Mr. MOLINA. I was right in the entrance.
Mr. BALL. Did you see a police officer with him?
Mr. MOLINA. I didn't see a police officer. I don't recall seeing a police officer but I did see him go inside.
Mr. BALL. Did you see a white-helmeted police officer any time there in the entrance?
Mr. MOLINA. Well, of course, there might have been one after they secured the building, you know.
Mr. BALL. No, I mean when Truly went in; did you see Truly actually go into the building?
Mr. MOLINA. I saw him go in.
Mr. BALL. Where were you standing?
Mr. MOLINA. Right at the front door; right at the front door.
Mr. BALL. Outside the front door?
Mr. MOLINA. Yes, outside the front door I was standing; the door was right behind me.
Mr. BALL. Were you standing on the steps?
Mr. MOLINA. Yes, on the uppermost step.
Mr. BALL. You actually saw Truly go in?
Mr. MOLINA. Yeah.
Mr. BALL. You were still standing there?
Mr. MOLINA. Yes.
Mr. BALL. How long was it after you heard the shots?
Mr. MOLINA. Oh, I would venture to say maybe 20 or 30 seconds afterwards.
Mr. BALL. Had somebody come up and said the President was shot before
you saw Truly go in?
Mr. MOLINA. No.

BTW, Calvary arrived after Truly.....

Mr. BALL. Do you know a girl named Gloria Calvary?
Mr. MOLINA. Yes.
Mr. BALL. Did Gloria come up?
Ms.. MOLINA. Yes, she came. I was in the lobby standing there and she came in with this other girl.

Just because Joe Molina didn't see Baker go into the building doesn't mean anything. Molina could've been engaged in conversation with someone when Baker came up the steps.
There is actual film footage of Baker approaching the bottom of the steps.
Other witnesses do see Baker enter.
The only reason Truly goes back into the TSBD is to assist Baker.
It's safe to say Baker was already in the lobby asking people where the stairs were when Truly came up the steps.
Molina's statement only confirms the speed that Baker makes it to the lobby (20-30 seconds, something confirmed by the Darnell film)

BTW
Calvary was stood at the bottom of the steps when Truly ran up them.
She was telling Lovelady what had happened.
When she entered the building Molina had moved into the lobby.

[John Mytton]

JohnM

[Dan O'meara]

Just because Joe Molina didn't see Baker go into the building doesn't mean anything.

Of couse not -- LOL

Molina could've been engaged in conversation with someone when Baker came up the steps.

Sure, but Molina was right at the doors when Truly entered seconds later.

There is actual film footage of Baker approaching the bottom of the steps.

"approaching" -- LOL

Other witnesses do see Baker enter.

Names?

The only reason Truly goes back into the TSBD is to assist Baker.

First you need to show he actually was inside.

It's safe to say Baker was already in the lobby asking people where the stairs were when Truly came up the steps.

No, it's safe to say you made that up. Who were "people " in the lobby 15 seconds after shots?

Molina's statement only confirms the speed that Baker makes it to the lobby (20-30 seconds, something confirmed by the Darnell film)

No, you also made that up to fit your fantacy.

BTW
Calvary was stood at the bottom of the steps when Truly ran up them.

Oh, you have Calvary timed?

She was telling Lovelady what had happened.

OK, when did Lovelady say Baker/Truly entered?

When she entered the building Molina had moved into the lobby.

Right.

The usual sh*t but I'll make the points that need making.

"She said within a matter of ten seconds a uniform police officer in a white helmet ran into the building"
FBI interview of Pauline Sanders
Sanders was also stood on the steps.
You should know all this but you don't.
It's the basics.

The Darnell film shows Baker approaching the steps of the TSBD.
All you could say to that was "approaching" -- LOL
But it does.
What do you have to say about that?