Oswald: No power lunch

[Alan Ford]

LHO admitted to the press he never went outside.

No he didn't. That's just your Warren Gullible interpretation of the exchange with the reporter! 

[Alan Ford]

I'm sure that you've seen this clip, Mr Ford.    Baker says nothing about encountering anybody prior to encountering Lee Oswald in the second floor lunchroom.

Yes, he's on script here

And... Lee Oswald himself verified that a DPD officer had in fact burst into the second floor lunchroom just after he had got a Coca Cola from the vending machine.

Only if you fail to compare the Bookhout solo report with the earlier Bookhout/Hosty joint report and the even earlier, suppressed Hosty draft report.

My advice would be not to fail to compare the Bookhout solo report with the earlier Bookhout/Hosty joint report and the even earlier, suppressed Hosty draft report.

See Reply #346 on this thread! 

[Dan O'meara]

No, Officer Baker simply tells the story of a different encounter in his affidavit.

Really?
And who was this encounter with?

As Officer Baker was giving the affidavit, Mr Oswald was brought into the Homicide Office in plain view of him. And yet Officer Baker's affidavit makes absolutely no linkage between the suspicious light-brown-jacket-wearing man he caught walking away from the rear stairway several floors up and the man now in custody. That's because he did NOT recognize Mr Oswald as the man he'd caught walking away from the rear stairway.

Marvin Johnson, the man who took Baker's statement, is clear that Baker recognised Oswald as soon as he saw him.

If proof emerges that Mr Oswald was at the front entrance at the time of the shooting and/or when Officer Baker ran up those front steps, then a story of Mr Oswald hurrying inside, up a flight of front stairs, across the second floor and then back down a flight of rear stairs for no discernible reason is going to be..... a hard sell.

"If proof emerges that Mr Oswald was at the front entrance at the time of the shooting"

It's refreshing to hear a Prayer Man fanatic admit there is currently no proof that Oswald was on the front steps at the time of the shooting. 

PS: It's not going to happen

[Marjan Rynkiewicz]

Givens says he went down in the elevator at 1 or 2 minutes after 12:00, & that Givens forgot to close the gate, & that LHO (holding LHO's order board)(on the 6th floor) had asked him to shut the gate.

[Alan Ford]

Really?
And who was this encounter with?

A man other than Mr Oswald, and not a Depository employee. On Mr Truly's word, Officer Baker let a member of the assassination team go.

Marvin Johnson, the man who took Baker's statement, is clear that Baker recognised Oswald as soon as he saw him.

And yet the affidavit statement does not even mention this absolutely crucial fact (which would have been golden from a DPD perspective). If you weren't a 95% Warren Gullible, what would you make of this amazing circumstance, Mr O'Meara?

Det. Johnson is also clear that Officer Baker said he started to search this man. Do you therefore think it's clear that Officer Baker started to search the man (contrary to his WC testimony)?

"If proof emerges that Mr Oswald was at the front entrance at the time of the shooting"

It's refreshing to hear a Prayer Man fanatic admit there is currently no proof that Oswald was on the front steps at the time of the shooting.

~Grin~

You have misunderstood my use of the present tense, Mr O'Meara

PS: It's not going to happen

'I really really really don't want Oswald to have been on the front steps for the P. Parade' is not an argument, Mr O'Meara, just an expression of irrational (actually froth-at-the-mouth) bias.

By the way, have you come up with an explanation for this shadow down Mr Lovelady in the Wiegman film yet?



Even a 95% explanation would help here, Mr O'Meara. Actually no, strike that-----------a 5% explanation would be a start, and certainly 5% more than you've given us before!

 

[Dan O'meara]

A man other than Mr Oswald, and not a Depository employee. On Mr Truly's word, Officer Baker let a member of the assassination team go.

The assassination team?? 

And yet the affidavit statement does not even mention this absolutely crucial fact (which would have been golden from a DPD perspective). If you weren't a 95% Warren Gullible, what would you make of this amazing circumstance, Mr O'Meara?

Det. Johnson is also clear that Officer Baker said he started to search this man. Do you therefore think it's clear that Officer Baker started to search the man (contrary to his WC testimony)?

Stay on track Alan.
You were saying Baker didn't recognise Oswald.
This is just a product of your fantastical imagination.
I provide independent documented corroboration that Baker did recognise Oswald. So you try to change the subject

You have misunderstood my use of the present tense, Mr O'Meara

I don't think so.
You are admitting there is no proof that Oswald was on the steps at the time of the shooting.
And I appreciate your honesty.   

'I really really really don't want Oswald to have been on the front steps for the P. Parade' is not an argument, Mr O'Meara, just an expression of irrational (actually froth-at-the-mouth) bias.

  But you think "I really, really, really do want Oswald to be on the steps" is a perfectly reasonable argument don't you Alan

By the way, have you come up with an explanation for this shadow down Mr Lovelady in the Wiegman film yet?



Even a 95% explanation would help here, Mr O'Meara. Actually no, strike that-----------a 5% explanation would be a start, and certainly 5% more than you've given us before!

 

Stay on track Alan.
 

[Alan Ford]

The assassination team?? 

The 95% Warren Gullible knows the assassination was the work of one man

Stay on track Alan.
You were saying Baker didn't recognise Oswald.
This is just a product of your fantastical imagination.

Says the 95% Warren Gullible whose heart is broken by the fact that Officer Baker's affidavit omits to note that the man caught walking away from the rear stairway is none other than the man just now brought into the Homicide Bureau in handcuffs

I provide independent documented corroboration that Baker did recognise Oswald. So you try to change the subject

A DPD cop provides after-the-fact corroboration for a DPD cop. Good enough for a 95% Warren Gullible

I don't think so.
You are admitting there is no proof that Oswald was on the steps at the time of the shooting.
And I appreciate your honesty.   

The 95% Warren Gullible needs to work on his reading skills

But you think "I really, really, really do want Oswald to be on the steps" is a perfectly reasonable argument don't you Alan

No, it would be as silly a starting point for research as a 95% Warren Gullible's "I really really really don't want Oswald to have been on the front steps for the P. Parade"

Still no luck on the Lovelady shadow, Mr O'Meara? Well, color me 100% unsurprised!