Then went inside with the curtain rods

[Dan O'meara]

Stop playing games, Mr O'Meara. Reply #856

I didn't realise you were being serious.

This elaborate hoax, involving the Secret Service, the senior counsel of the Warren Commission, the Dallas Police department and Ruth Paine, is committed because your imaginary TSBD employee saw these numbers written on the curtain rods. 

In order to explain how these numbers got there, this hoax (which only exists in your mind, it never actually took place) is committed in order to demonstrate these numbers are actually "Ruth Paine Exhibit numbers 275 and 276.

But the curtain rods were found by your imaginary TSBD employee before the hoax took place!
Think about that Alan.

The idea that the Secret Service felt the need it had to produce paperwork to satisfy this a civilian is ridiculous enough. But to suggest all these different agencies feel the need to put on this hoax to please this figment of your imagination is bordering on insanity.

If the imaginary employee already saw the numbers on the imaginary rods, how does this hoax clear that situation up?
 (I feel embarrassed being dragged into this nonsense)

[Alan Ford]

I didn't realise you were being serious.

This elaborate hoax, involving the Secret Service, the senior counsel of the Warren Commission, the Dallas Police department and Ruth Paine, is committed because your imaginary TSBD employee saw these numbers written on the curtain rods. 

In order to explain how these numbers got there, this hoax (which only exists in your mind, it never actually took place) is committed in order to demonstrate these numbers are actually "Ruth Paine Exhibit numbers 275 and 276.

Still waiting for your explanation of why the Ruth Paine Exhibit counting started at #270. It promises to be as funny as your truly hopeless explanation of the dates on the form ('Ignore them both!') 

But the curtain rods were found by your imaginary TSBD employee before the hoax took place!
Think about that Alan.

The idea that the Secret Service felt the need it had to produce paperwork to satisfy this a civilian is ridiculous enough.

Why is it ridiculous? If the witness has been pressing the matter, it's exactly the smart move.

But to suggest all these different agencies feel the need to put on this hoax to please this figment of your imagination is bordering on insanity.

If the imaginary employee already saw the numbers on the imaginary rods, how does this hoax clear that situation up?
 (I feel embarrassed being dragged into this nonsense)

Insurance against the witness' going public at some point in the future with talk of having found two curtain rods at the Depository marked 275 & 276. The fact that two curtain rods officially 'marked' Ruth Paine Exhibits 275 and 276 will feature in the publicly available Warren Volumes will make the witness sound like a plagiarizing fraud.

[Walt Cakebread]

We don't know that for sure. Remember-------we're dealing with the same professional liars here who buried Mr Oswald's claim to have gone "outside to watch P. Parade". You know, the guys whose devoted fanboy you are

What a silly question!

Exactly-----------and so too is all your energy

we're dealing with the same professional liars here who buried Mr Oswald's claim to have gone "outside to watch P. Parade".

Alan.... It's entirely possible that Lee did tell the interrogators that h went outside to watch the P. Parade after he gulped down his lunch in the Domino room.....  Lee could easily have thought the the parade was still in progress when he finished his lunch....But that is not proof that there was any of the parade left when he went outside.

[Alan Ford]

It has been suggested by (IIRC) Mr Anthony Marsh that Mr Oswald wanted heavier, darker curtains and realized such would need stronger rods

Alternatively! Mr Oswald, not wanting Mr Frazier to know his marital business, used the picking up of curtain rods (which, on this scenario, he didn't actually need) as a pretext for overnighting at Irving that Thursday. They were nothing more than a prop.

Cf:

Mr. JENNER - Was there any discussion that might serve to refresh your recollection, any discussion of the fact that Lee Oswald had come home or come to Irving in the first place on a Thursday afternoon, which is unusual, or that he had come home unannounced and without invitation, which also as you have testified was unusual? Wasn't there any discussion between you and Marina, speculation at least on your part as to why he was home?
Mrs. PAINE - Yes, there was discussion. I can't recall exactly what time in the evening it took place but I recall the content of the discussion.
Mr. JENNER - You tell us about it.
Mrs. PAINE - She suggested that he was making up the quarrel that they had had because of her attempt to reach him by telephone, and I agreed, concurred with that judgment of it.
Mr. JENNER - What was the attitude that evening?
Mrs. PAINE - He was very warm and friendly.
Mr. JENNER - Was there anything unusual about his attitude and conduct that evening?
Mrs. PAINE - Nothing except he went to bed a little earlier than he normally would have on a Sunday evening before work.

 

[Rick Plant]

Here we hear the lie.....Frazier claiming he did not go home after leaving the TSBD. Compare to his HSCA interview where he claimed more than once he went to his sister's home first.

https://www.c-span.org/video/?287933-101/kennedy-assassination-buell-wesley-frazier-part-2

25 minute mark.

Frazier stated he went directly to the hospital and did not go home first in this interview. 

[Rick Plant]

Oswald bag for wrapping long thin books
(lightened to reveal details)



Yep, the sellers of the books are going to send their clients books wrapped in tattered paper with sloppily taped ends.
By the way, exactly how would somebody carry books in such a package... or even want to? Oh, never mind such details... there's never been a pet theory these 'researchers' didn't like.

Mr. EISENBERG. And it is--looking at those notes and as you remember now-- this is the bag?
Mr. STOMBAUGH. This is the bag.
Mr. EISENBERG. Now, this bag has an area of very light-brown color, and the greater portion of the area is a quite dark-brownish color. What was the color when you originally received it?
Mr. STOMBAUGH. When I originally received this it was a light-brown color.
Mr. EISENBERG. Which is at one end of the bag?
Mr. STOMBAUGH. One end of the bag.
Mr. EISENBERG. The tape is also two colors, one a lightish brown and the other a darkish brown. What color was the tape when you received it?
Mr. STOMBAUGH. The tape also was light brown.
Mr. EISENBERG. Could you turn the bag over? Was it the color that shows as a lighter yellowish-type of brown?
Mr. STOMBAUGH. Yes; a yellow-brown shade.
Mr. EISENBERG. When did you receive it, by the way, Mr. Stombaugh?
Mr. STOMBAUGH. This was received on November 23, 7:30 a.m, 1963.
Mr. EISENBERG. Did you form any opinions as you examined it, concerning the construction of the bag?
Mr. STOMBAUGH. When I looked at the bag and examined it, it struck me as being a homemade bag such as I could make. Occasionally I will have a need for something like this at home. Therefore, I will take some brown paper and a strip of tape home with me. Then when I get home I will fold the tape fold the paper rather--in the shape I need--and to seal it up I will tear strips of the sealing tape from the little piece I have.
Here we find that this tape has been torn at several places, such as one would do in an instance like that. Due to these torn edges, I was under the impression, from looking at the bag, that it was a homemade bag which someone had made at home and they did not have a tape dispenser which machine-cuts tape. Therefore, they had to tear it, which they did--or cut it, of course with a knife. And this is the case where pieces of tape were torn.

[Alan Ford]

Friends, once again we marvel at what is on this document----------------



No fewer than 8 days BEFORE two curtain rods were taken on the record from the Paine residence as part of Ms Ruth Paine's WC testimony, and marked Exhibits 275 and 276, two curtain rods marked 275 and 276 were formally submitted to Lieutenant Day's Crime Lab for fingerprint testing for Mr Oswald's prints. Amazing!

No less amazing is the numerical coincidence that the unextended curtain rods taken from Ms Paine's garage were measured on the spot as 27.5 inches long.

AND that Mr Buell Wesley Frazier and his sister Ms Linnie Mae Randle both estimated the length of Mr Oswald's paper sack at 27 inches.

See the '275' and '276' on the document above? It would break the laws of temporality for these to refer to Commission Exhibit Nos.----------those won't be assigned for another 8 days. On the other hand, if we simply read the 5 and the 6 as raised, or with a decimal point missing, then what we have here are two curtain rods which have written (or printed) on them length markings: 27.5 inches & 27.6 inches, respectively.

The WC went to extraordinary lengths to contrive a way of assigning Exhibit Nos to two curtain rods that would match the length markings on two curtain rods found at the Depository.