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Online Dan O'meara

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Re: Then went inside with the curtain rods
« Reply #875 on: March 19, 2021, 06:49:39 PM »
All energy was focussed on building a case against Oswald.

Indeed. And in the process anything exculpatory was ignored or dismissed.

Agreed

Online Dan O'meara

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Re: Then went inside with the curtain rods
« Reply #876 on: March 19, 2021, 06:55:59 PM »
Lol, already explained, Mr O'Meara. The fact that you ignore my explanation merely tells us you can't come up with a rebuttal

It's not true Alan.
You have not explained why the elaborate hoax has to focus on the numbers scribbled on the TSBD rods.
The whole point of this pantomime, involving the Secret Service, the hierarchy of the Warren Commission, the Dallas Police Department and Ruth Paine, is to number the rods found at Ruth Paine's house 275 and 276.
Why is it necessary to do this?

Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Then went inside with the curtain rods
« Reply #877 on: March 19, 2021, 10:17:07 PM »
It's not true Alan.
You have not explained why the elaborate hoax has to focus on the numbers scribbled on the TSBD rods.
The whole point of this pantomime, involving the Secret Service, the hierarchy of the Warren Commission, the Dallas Police Department and Ruth Paine, is to number the rods found at Ruth Paine's house 275 and 276.
Why is it necessary to do this?

Stop playing games, Mr O'Meara. Reply #856

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Re: Then went inside with the curtain rods
« Reply #878 on: March 19, 2021, 10:49:36 PM »
Stop playing games, Mr O'Meara. Reply #856

I didn't realise you were being serious.

This elaborate hoax, involving the Secret Service, the senior counsel of the Warren Commission, the Dallas Police department and Ruth Paine, is committed because your imaginary TSBD employee saw these numbers written on the curtain rods.  ::)

In order to explain how these numbers got there, this hoax (which only exists in your mind, it never actually took place) is committed in order to demonstrate these numbers are actually "Ruth Paine Exhibit numbers 275 and 276.

But the curtain rods were found by your imaginary TSBD employee before the hoax took place!
Think about that Alan.

The idea that the Secret Service felt the need it had to produce paperwork to satisfy this a civilian is ridiculous enough. But to suggest all these different agencies feel the need to put on this hoax to please this figment of your imagination is bordering on insanity.

If the imaginary employee already saw the numbers on the imaginary rods, how does this hoax clear that situation up?
 (I feel embarrassed being dragged into this nonsense)

Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Then went inside with the curtain rods
« Reply #879 on: March 19, 2021, 11:49:48 PM »
I didn't realise you were being serious.

This elaborate hoax, involving the Secret Service, the senior counsel of the Warren Commission, the Dallas Police department and Ruth Paine, is committed because your imaginary TSBD employee saw these numbers written on the curtain rods.  ::)

In order to explain how these numbers got there, this hoax (which only exists in your mind, it never actually took place) is committed in order to demonstrate these numbers are actually "Ruth Paine Exhibit numbers 275 and 276.

Still waiting for your explanation of why the Ruth Paine Exhibit counting started at #270. It promises to be as funny as your truly hopeless explanation of the dates on the form ('Ignore them both!')  :D

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But the curtain rods were found by your imaginary TSBD employee before the hoax took place!
Think about that Alan.

The idea that the Secret Service felt the need it had to produce paperwork to satisfy this a civilian is ridiculous enough.

Why is it ridiculous? If the witness has been pressing the matter, it's exactly the smart move.

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But to suggest all these different agencies feel the need to put on this hoax to please this figment of your imagination is bordering on insanity.

If the imaginary employee already saw the numbers on the imaginary rods, how does this hoax clear that situation up?
 (I feel embarrassed being dragged into this nonsense)

Insurance against the witness' going public at some point in the future with talk of having found two curtain rods at the Depository marked 275 & 276. The fact that two curtain rods officially 'marked' Ruth Paine Exhibits 275 and 276 will feature in the publicly available Warren Volumes will make the witness sound like a plagiarizing fraud.

Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Then went inside with the curtain rods
« Reply #880 on: March 20, 2021, 09:55:51 PM »
We don't know that for sure. Remember-------we're dealing with the same professional liars here who buried Mr Oswald's claim to have gone "outside to watch P. Parade". You know, the guys whose devoted fanboy you are

What a silly question!

Exactly-----------and so too is all your energy


we're dealing with the same professional liars here who buried Mr Oswald's claim to have gone "outside to watch P. Parade".

Alan.... It's entirely possible that Lee did tell the interrogators that h went outside to watch the P. Parade after he gulped down his lunch in the Domino room.....  Lee could easily have thought the the parade was still in progress when he finished his lunch....But that is not proof that there was any of the parade left when he went outside.

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Re: Then went inside with the curtain rods
« Reply #881 on: March 24, 2021, 01:45:28 AM »
It has been suggested by (IIRC) Mr Anthony Marsh that Mr Oswald wanted heavier, darker curtains and realized such would need stronger rods

Alternatively! Mr Oswald, not wanting Mr Frazier to know his marital business, used the picking up of curtain rods (which, on this scenario, he didn't actually need) as a pretext for overnighting at Irving that Thursday. They were nothing more than a prop.

Cf:

Mr. JENNER - Was there any discussion that might serve to refresh your recollection, any discussion of the fact that Lee Oswald had come home or come to Irving in the first place on a Thursday afternoon, which is unusual, or that he had come home unannounced and without invitation, which also as you have testified was unusual? Wasn't there any discussion between you and Marina, speculation at least on your part as to why he was home?
Mrs. PAINE - Yes, there was discussion. I can't recall exactly what time in the evening it took place but I recall the content of the discussion.
Mr. JENNER - You tell us about it.
Mrs. PAINE - She suggested that he was making up the quarrel that they had had because of her attempt to reach him by telephone, and I agreed, concurred with that judgment of it.
Mr. JENNER - What was the attitude that evening?
Mrs. PAINE - He was very warm and friendly.
Mr. JENNER - Was there anything unusual about his attitude and conduct that evening?
Mrs. PAINE - Nothing except he went to bed a little earlier than he normally would have on a Sunday evening before work.


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