Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )

[Zeon Mason]

Question to Mr.Ford about the newly proposed location of Sarah Stanton at the fluffy white shirt person with hand upraised.

Is this person on the opposite (east side of the center hand rail as Billy Lovelady?

Is this persons hair light tone or dark?

[Alan Ford]

 Mr Oswald claimed to have visited the lunchroom before the P. Parade, gone down to one and then gone "outside to watch P. Parade".

WHERE in Hosty's notes, does it sat that ?

Are you trying to be cute, Mr Cakebread? As already stated multiple times, this crystal clear report of what Mr Oswald claimed in that first interrogation is in Agent Hosty's draft interrogation report. Are you suggesting Agent Hosty hallucinated or fabricated this claim?

Are you suggesting that Lee went to lunch at 12:00 O'clock?   Can you provide proof that Lee went to the second floor lunchroom BEFORE the P. parade arrived in Dealey plaza.

You're still missing the point: We now have proof that Mr Oswald himself claimed to have gone to the second floor lunchroom BEFORE the parade. Your attempts to explain away this bombshell information contained in Agent Hosty's draft interrogation report are getting you nowhere.

[Alan Ford]

Question to Mr.Ford about the newly proposed location of Sarah Stanton at the fluffy white shirt person with hand upraised.

Is this person on the opposite (east side of the center hand rail as Billy Lovelady?

East side, yes.

Is this persons hair light tone or dark?

We can't tell, their hair is in shadow.

[Walt Cakebread]

Are you trying to be cute, Mr Cakebread? As already stated multiple times, this crystal clear report of what Mr Oswald claimed in that first interrogation is in Agent Hosty's draft interrogation report. Are you suggesting Agent Hosty hallucinated or fabricated this claim?

You're still missing the point: We now have proof that Mr Oswald himself claimed to have gone to the second floor lunchroom BEFORE the parade. Your attempts to explain away this bombshell information contained in Agent Hosty's draft interrogation report are getting you nowhere.

 We now have proof that Mr Oswald himself claimed to have gone to the second floor lunchroom BEFORE the parade.

Isn't it obvious to you that the second set of notes are NOT contemporaneous ...Hosty didn't jot those notes down during the initial interrogation which stated at about 3:15 pm that afternoon....Open your eyes and LOOK ...

The second set of notes repeats information that had already been recorded in the first set of notes.  The second set of notes says:  "On 11/22 at 3:15 pm LHO was interviewed by Capt W Fritz JWB  & JPH.  Capt Fritz advised O of his rights etc;"

This is repeating the information that he (Hosty)had already recorded at the top of the note which he recorded while sitting in on the first interrogation of Lee Oswald.   Obviously there was no need to record that information a second time if the notes were all recorded at the same time...Thus it should be clear that Hosty recorded the second set of notes at a later time...And that was AFTER Baker had reported that He had encountered Lee Oswald in the second floor lunchroom AFTER the shots were fired.

If this isn't clear to you there is no point in discussing this issue any further.

[Alan Ford]

We now have proof that Mr Oswald himself claimed to have gone to the second floor lunchroom BEFORE the parade.

Isn't it obvious to you that the second set of notes re NOT contemporaneous ...Hosty didn't jot those notes down during the initial interrogation which stated at about 3:15 pm that afternoon....Open your eyes and LOOK ...

The second set of notes repeats information that had already been recorded in the first set of notes.  The second set of notes says:  "On 11/22 at 3:15 pm LHO was interviewed by Capt W Fritz JWB  & JPH.  Capt Fritz advised O of his rights etc;"

This is repeating the information that he (Hosty)had already recorded at the top of the note which he recorded while sitting in on the first interrogation of Lee Oswald.   Obviously there was no need to record that information a second time if the notes were all recorded at the same time...Thus it should be clear that Hosty recorded the second set of notes at a later time...And that was AFTER Baker had reported that He had encountered Lee Oswald in the second floor lunchroom AFTER the shots were fired.

If this isn't clear to you there is no point in discussing this issue any further.

Huh? Of course the draft interrogation report was written after that first interrogation-------it's a report, for goodness' sake

As for Agent Hosty's attending a follow-up interrogation in which he hears what Mr Oswald has to say about a Coke that Officer Baker has been reporting, the only world in which any of that happened is the world of your lunchroom-fiction-addled imagination.

[Walt Cakebread]

Huh? Of course the draft interrogation report was written after that first interrogation-------it's a report, for goodness' sake

As for Agent Hosty's attending a follow-up interrogation in which he hears what Mr Oswald has to say about a Coke that Officer Baker has been reporting, the only world in which any of that happened is the world of your lunchroom-fiction-addled imagination.

Mr Ford It's NOT my imagination....Perhaps you should read the reports of Fritz, Hosty and Bookhout in appendix XI of the WR.

Capt Fritz wrote....." Mr Truly had told me that one of the police officers had stopped his man immediately after the shooting somewhere near the back stairway, so I asked Oswald where he was when the police officer stopped him. He said that he was on the second floor drinking a coca cola when the officer came in."   "I asked him what part of the building he was in when the president was shot, and he said that he was having his lunch at about that time on the first floor."

NOTE----  No detective would ask a question that would provide information to a suspect.....Fritz didn't ask Lee where he was when the president was shot....He asked lee, where he was at the time the Parade passed by the TSBD...

FBI Bookhout wrote:  "Oswald stated that on November 22 at the time of the search ( referring to Baker's search) of the Texas School Book Depository by Dallas police officers he was on the second floor of said building having just purchased a Coca-Cola from the soft drink machine at which time a police officer came into the room with pistol drawn and asked if he worked there.Mr Truly was present and verified that he was an employee and the police officer thereafter left the room and continued through the building. Oswald stated that he took his coke down to the first floor and stood around and had his lunch in the employee's lunch room. He there after went outside and stood around for five or ten minutes."

FBI Hosty wrote:....  He claimed that he ate his lunch in the first floor lunchroom. however he went to the second floor lunchroom where the Coca Cola machine was located, and obtained a Coca Cola for his lunch. Oswald claimed that he was on the first floor at the time President John F. Kennedy passed this building.

Page 622....Oswald stated that on November 22, 1963, he had eaten his lunch  in the lunchroom at the Texas School Book Depository, alone, but recalled possibly two Negro employees walking through the room during this period. He stated that one of the employees was called Junior  (  JuniorJarmen.) and the other was a short individual ( Harold "shorty" Norman) .whose name he could not recall.

It is a fact that Jarman and Norman walked by the windows of the 1st floor lunchroom at about 12:25.....And Lee Oswald saw them as he sat there in the Domino Room eating his lunch.   

[Alan Ford]

Mr Ford It's NOT my imagination....Perhaps you should read the reports of Fritz, Hosty and Bookhout in appendix XI of the WR.

Capt Fritz wrote....." Mr Truly had told me that one of the police officers had stopped his man immediately after the shooting somewhere near the back stairway, so I asked Oswald where he was when the police officer stopped him. He said that he was on the second floor drinking a coca cola when the officer came in."   "I asked him what part of the building he was in when the president was shot, and he said that he was having his lunch at about that time on the first floor."

NOTE----  No detective would ask a question that would provide information to a suspect.....Fritz didn't ask Lee where he was when the president was shot....He asked lee, where he was at the time the Parade passed by the TSBD...

FBI Bookhout wrote:  "Oswald stated that on November 22 at the time of the search ( referring to Baker's search) of the Texas School Book Depository by Dallas police officers he was on the second floor of said building having just purchased a Coca-Cola from the soft drink machine at which time a police officer came into the room with pistol drawn and asked if he worked there.Mr Truly was present and verified that he was an employee and the police officer thereafter left the room and continued through the building. Oswald stated that he took his coke down to the first floor and stood around and had his lunch in the employee's lunch room. He there after went outside and stood around for five or ten minutes."

Why do you skip over the joint report by Agents Bookhout and Hosty which PRECEDES the Bookhout-only report, and which (unlike that later report) was written while Mr Oswald was still alive? Here's what that earlier report says-------------------

“OSWALD stated that he went to lunch at approximately noon and he claimed he ate his lunch on the first floor in the lunchroom; however he went to the second floor where the Coca-Cola machine was located and obtained a bottle of Coca-Cola ‘for his lunch. OSWALD claimed to’ be on the first floor when President JOHN F. KENNEDY passed by his building.”

The eyebrows of alert researchers had long been raised by the rather bizarre vagueness of that last bit: "on the first floor". Where on the first floor?? Thankfully, the mystery was lifted when an EVEN EARLIER report was finally unearthed in 2019: Mr Oswald told Captain Fritz he bought the Coke on two, then came downstairs for lunch, and then "went outside to watch P. Parade". The part of the first floor that Mr Oswald must have specified was: the front entrance.

This document of course destroys at a stroke the lie that Mr Oswald ever confirmed a post-assassination lunchroom encounter with an officer and Mr Truly. In fact he told them something that was completely at odds with the lunchroom encounter story. And so......... they buried it.

Comparing the evolving story told from one interrogation report to the next, in short, allows us to watch a key part of the cover-up against Mr Oswald take shape. If you weren't so besotted with the long-discredited lunchroom-encounter fiction, you would have no trouble recognizing the explosive import of the Hosty draft interrogation report that came to light in 2019-------and you wouldn't be taking recourse to ludicrously strained LNer-style argumentation in a desperate effort to explain its contents away.