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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2772 on: October 30, 2023, 09:29:11 AM »
I’ll have to wait and see if some people with computer programs that generate perspective views from fixed points in plan view can determine if the flag waving woman’s position can shift from being in front of the perforated wall to be in front of the TSBD entrance.

No need to wait and see, Mr. Mason-------------just look at the synced frames using your own two eyes. Mr. O'Meara has already done that. It's why he felt the need to edit my words!
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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2773 on: November 06, 2023, 03:32:15 AM »
To continue on with this Oswald flag waving theory , then there must be a plausible explanation for the absence of Oswald’s  head and body in the Towner film.
 
A. The camera was focused on the foreground and thus the background area behind Carl Jones is just dark because it’s out of focus?

B. The original Towner film DID have head and body of Oswald  in sunlight and the conspirators/ cover Up artists blackened out this area behind Carl Jones similar to the shadow on Lovelady in Weigman film?

If neither A nor B are plausible then imo, the PM= Oswald theory should be revisited

Reasons to revisit :
1.The arms of PM do NOT appear to be like those of a woman’s bare arms because of what appears to be dark pixelated portions of the forearm that suggest a man’s hairy arm and a muscular shape more similar to Oswald’s arms than to Pauline Sanders.
2. The object in PMs hands are less likely to be a camera, lighter, white bread, or a small white coffee cup than to be simply a bottle of soda held in the hand with a white napkin.
3. The head shape of PM resembles Oswald’s oblong shaped face more so than Pauline Sanders round face
4. PM is not wearing any glasses.
5. The hair shape is more similar to Oswald’s than to Sanders.
6. A vast majority of CTs as well as Marina Oswald herself , think the PM figure resembles  Oswald.
7. The west corner  of the TSBD entrance is the most probable place Oswald could be and NOT have been noticed.
8. It may be possible that The 5’2” height of PM relative to BW Frazier, can be demonstrated as Oswald standing with BOTH feet on one 7” step lower than the top landing and no part of body is illuminated by sunlight.
9. There is no statement from Pauline Sanders to  suggest she moved from east side of the TSBD landing to PMs position.
10. Coincidentally , a bottle was left at the west side step approximately where PM would be standing on one step lower than the top landing.
10b. Sanders did not have a bottle of soda.
11. The bottle by the steps is NOT  likely the Dr.Pepper seen in the photo of DPD police officers hands as it is questionable if a police officer would leave a bottle on steps ( littering) rather than discard it properly.
12. Only 2 persons in this thread have claimed that  another version of film frames from Darnell film must be accepted as proof that the neckline of PM cannot be Oswald’s .
13. The PM theory fits well with the timeline of Oswald having at 12:25 -12:27 been in the Domino room and saw Harold Norman and James Jarman going past as they reentered TSBD via back loading dock door.
14.To believe that Oswald could be unfurling a flag and vigorously waving it while in FRONT of  BW.Frazier and obscuring Loveladys LOS, and that neither of these men would remember that detail has no reasonable explanation. Fear or complicity By remaining silent or “missing the gorilla in the midst of basketball player” because of focus on the POTUS , are all improbable explanations.
15. The last from BW Frazier about who PM was suggests he MAY have actually seen Oswald there as PM because BWF thought at first PM was Lovelady only to realize later that Lovelady had left the steps. BWF Changing his mind to suggest he’s 100% certain PM is not Oswald while simultaneously suggesting 100% UNCERTAINTY who PM is, is an absurd statement. Perhaps at this late stage BWF needs to undergo hypnosis to retrieve what is buried in his subconscious mind.

In conclusion, the PM=Oswald theory is the simpler theory that fits the Domino room 12:25-27 timeline well, allows a very plausible explanation how Oswald was unnoticed standing quietly in the west back corner of the TSBD landing drinking his coke or Dr Pepper, and requires no convoluted alternate plot of mischief involving JFK himself.

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2774 on: November 07, 2023, 11:44:18 AM »
To continue on with this Oswald flag waving theory , then there must be a plausible explanation for the absence of Oswald’s  head and body in the Towner film.
 
A. The camera was focused on the foreground and thus the background area behind Carl Jones is just dark because it’s out of focus?

B. The original Towner film DID have head and body of Oswald  in sunlight and the conspirators/ cover Up artists blackened out this area behind Carl Jones similar to the shadow on Lovelady in Weigman film?

If neither A nor B are plausible then imo, the PM= Oswald theory should be revisited

Reasons to revisit :
1.The arms of PM do NOT appear to be like those of a woman’s bare arms because of what appears to be dark pixelated portions of the forearm that suggest a man’s hairy arm and a muscular shape more similar to Oswald’s arms than to Pauline Sanders.
2. The object in PMs hands are less likely to be a camera, lighter, white bread, or a small white coffee cup than to be simply a bottle of soda held in the hand with a white napkin.
3. The head shape of PM resembles Oswald’s oblong shaped face more so than Pauline Sanders round face
4. PM is not wearing any glasses.
5. The hair shape is more similar to Oswald’s than to Sanders.
6. A vast majority of CTs as well as Marina Oswald herself , think the PM figure resembles  Oswald.
7. The west corner  of the TSBD entrance is the most probable place Oswald could be and NOT have been noticed.
8. It may be possible that The 5’2” height of PM relative to BW Frazier, can be demonstrated as Oswald standing with BOTH feet on one 7” step lower than the top landing and no part of body is illuminated by sunlight.
9. There is no statement from Pauline Sanders to  suggest she moved from east side of the TSBD landing to PMs position.
10. Coincidentally , a bottle was left at the west side step approximately where PM would be standing on one step lower than the top landing.
10b. Sanders did not have a bottle of soda.
11. The bottle by the steps is NOT  likely the Dr.Pepper seen in the photo of DPD police officers hands as it is questionable if a police officer would leave a bottle on steps ( littering) rather than discard it properly.
12. Only 2 persons in this thread have claimed that  another version of film frames from Darnell film must be accepted as proof that the neckline of PM cannot be Oswald’s .
13. The PM theory fits well with the timeline of Oswald having at 12:25 -12:27 been in the Domino room and saw Harold Norman and James Jarman going past as they reentered TSBD via back loading dock door.
14.To believe that Oswald could be unfurling a flag and vigorously waving it while in FRONT of  BW.Frazier and obscuring Loveladys LOS, and that neither of these men would remember that detail has no reasonable explanation. Fear or complicity By remaining silent or “missing the gorilla in the midst of basketball player” because of focus on the POTUS , are all improbable explanations.
15. The last from BW Frazier about who PM was suggests he MAY have actually seen Oswald there as PM because BWF thought at first PM was Lovelady only to realize later that Lovelady had left the steps. BWF Changing his mind to suggest he’s 100% certain PM is not Oswald while simultaneously suggesting 100% UNCERTAINTY who PM is, is an absurd statement. Perhaps at this late stage BWF needs to undergo hypnosis to retrieve what is buried in his subconscious mind.

In conclusion, the PM=Oswald theory is the simpler theory that fits the Domino room 12:25-27 timeline well, allows a very plausible explanation how Oswald was unnoticed standing quietly in the west back corner of the TSBD landing drinking his coke or Dr Pepper, and requires no convoluted alternate plot of mischief involving JFK himself.

Oswald had plenty of opportunities to give an alibi but he never did because he couldn't, Oswald was on the 6th floor killing the President!

Oswald: "I work in that building."
Reporter: "Were you in that building at the time?"
Oswald: "Naturally if I work in that building, yes sir."


@1:19 hear Oswald's own voice.


Btw Oswald waving a flag? Hahahahaha.

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2775 on: November 09, 2023, 01:11:24 AM »
Well, Mr Mytton, just because you HaHaHa this alternative speculative theory by Mr Ford , that Oswald was waving a banner/ flag/ something, as part of an JFK directed alternate flag shooting plot…

And just because Oswald  never mentioned anything to his wife, mother, brother, or in front of cameras about being out on the front steps at the time of shooting…

And just because there’s an odd absence of any  head or body of Oswald , in the Towner film or in the Weigman film , where Oswald is  supposedly shaking a flag with his curtain rod flag banner, just behind Carl Jones ..

And just because there is  the same amount of white T-shirt shirt of the Hughes “red shirt “ (RSM) man as there is of Loveladys white T-shirt   in Weigman…

NEVER THE LESS… I’m remaining a suspicious CT until whatever end, because there’s always hope, and Gandalf said look
for him on the 3rd day at dawn.. and besides we have Aragorn and Gimli the dwarf on our side!

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2776 on: November 09, 2023, 02:34:58 AM »
Well, Mr Mytton, just because you HaHaHa this alternative speculative theory by Mr Ford , that Oswald was waving a banner/ flag/ something, as part of an JFK directed alternate flag shooting plot…

And just because Oswald  never mentioned anything to his wife, mother, brother, or in front of cameras about being out on the front steps at the time of shooting…

And just because there’s an odd absence of any  head or body of Oswald , in the Towner film or in the Weigman film , where Oswald is  supposedly shaking a flag with his curtain rod flag banner, just behind Carl Jones ..

And just because there is  the same amount of white T-shirt shirt of the Hughes “red shirt “ (RSM) man as there is of Loveladys white T-shirt   in Weigman…

NEVER THE LESS… I’m remaining a suspicious CT until whatever end, because there’s always hope, and Gandalf said look
for him on the 3rd day at dawn.. and besides we have Aragorn and Gimli the dwarf on our side!

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And just because Oswald  never mentioned anything to his wife, mother, brother, or in front of cameras about being out on the front steps at the time of shooting…

Oswald: "I work in that building."
Reporter: "Were you in that building at the time?"
Oswald: "Naturally if I work in that building, yes sir."


or

Oswald: "I work in that building."
Reporter: "Were you in that building at the time?"
Oswald: "No sir, I was outside on the steps"


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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2777 on: November 09, 2023, 03:05:00 AM »
I could offer the explanation that Oswald decided to remain silent about being outside on the steps because he had Delusions of Grandeur (DOG) disorder, and was already figuring on a grand lawsuit for wrongful arrest after he got the lawyer he preferred who would find some photo of Oswald later..

But I thought my Gandalf saving the day at Helms Deep was just a good an explanation :)

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2778 on: November 09, 2023, 03:22:04 AM »
I could offer the explanation that Oswald decided to remain silent about being outside on the steps because he had Delusions of Grandeur (DOG) disorder, and was already figuring on a grand lawsuit for wrongful arrest after he got the lawyer he preferred who would find some photo of Oswald later..

But I thought my Gandalf saving the day at Helms Deep was just a good an explanation :)

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But I thought my Gandalf saving the day at Helms Deep was just a good an explanation :)

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