Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )

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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2765 on: October 27, 2023, 12:40:39 AM »
Ok, I think I agree with Dan on this one because of the amazing coincidence of the waving in both Towner and Bell film relative to the black cowboy hat man in white shirt and pants.

What amazing coincidence? Lots of people are waving. It's a Presidential Parade.

The fluttering coming from the hand of the lady in black in Bell is, in the synced frames, at all times clearly east of khaki man's head. Therefore it cannot be what shows up right behind khaki man's head in Towner. A geometric impossibility.

And we see Red Shirt Man (Mr. Oswald) in the same spot he was in in Hughes just a couple of seconds ago, his body now moving in sync with the aggressive downward pumping of the flag:



Now that would be an amazing coincidence!
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Online Dan O'meara

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2766 on: October 27, 2023, 09:31:31 AM »
What amazing coincidence? Lots of people are waving. It's a Presidential Parade.

The fluttering coming from the hand of the lady in black in Bell is, in the synced frames, at all times clearly east of khaki man's head. Therefore it cannot be what shows up right behind khaki man's head in Towner. A geometric impossibility.

And we see Red Shirt Man (Mr. Oswald) in the same spot he was in in Hughes just a couple of seconds ago, his body now moving in sync with the aggressive downward pumping of the flag:



Now that would be an amazing coincidence!

"The fluttering coming from the hand of the lady in black in Bell is...at all times clearly east of khaki man's head"



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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2767 on: October 27, 2023, 09:35:36 AM »
"The fluttering coming from the hand of the lady in black in Bell is...at all times clearly east of khaki man's head"



~Grin~

Your sly use of ellipses gives away that you know darn well what the problem is.

Here are the words you excised in quoting me: "in the synced frames"

So! Compare the frame you have just posted with ANY one of the synced frames. See the difference in the position of the Lady#1's hand? That difference right there is why your argument is bust.
 
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Offline Michael Welch

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2768 on: October 28, 2023, 01:07:11 AM »
Well, if you can show us a sample of the fetching two-tone number DPD issued for that season, we're all eyes



Offline Michael Welch

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2769 on: October 28, 2023, 06:59:39 AM »
Hi Chris and Zeon, This is a mystery lady in blue carrying a camera and Rosemary Willis in white and red, running from right to left, and they end up in between Billy and Maddie but are closer to the camera on the south side of Elm Street. They add the various blue or white, and red to Hughes. Thank you both for your input! Sincerely yours, Michael



I read somewhere recently that the Mystery Camera Woman in blue is Wilma Bond. I do not think the pictures she took of the entrance of the TSBD made it into her collection. It is too bad that so many films and pictures were confiscated. Just as the media was immediately controlled for example Mary Woodward's story written before President Kennedy was pronounced dead. Thank you for everything! Sincerely yours, Michael
 

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2770 on: October 29, 2023, 09:48:52 AM »
~Grin~

Your sly use of ellipses gives away that you know darn well what the problem is.

Here are the words you excised in quoting me: "in the synced frames"

So! Compare the frame you have just posted with ANY one of the synced frames. See the difference in the position of the Lady#1's hand? That difference right there is why your argument is bust.
 
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Friends, Mr. O'Meara's little piece of sneakiness gave the game away in the most amusing fashion.

The full sequence from Bell shows Lady#1 (the lady in black) move her hand west to a point where it appears to be behind khaki man's head:



But! In the Bell frames that Mr. Davidson synced with Towner, she hasn't yet started moving her hand west. It is still appearing visibly east of khaki man's head. Nor is there anything in her hand blowing to her right (viewer's left) such as might make up the gap between her hand and the back of his head------------nope, we are at all times afforded an unobstructed view of the white TSBD stonework in the background:



And yet a waving object is already making its appearance behind khaki man's head in the SYNCED Towner frames. Look at the last paused frame here:



How is this possible? Easy: the waving object that appears in Towner behind khaki man's head is coming from the doorway. There is no other rational explanation.

Had Miss Towner kept her camera on the doorway another couple of seconds, then Lady#1's hand might well have appeared in front of the object waving in the doorway. But the synced frames allow us to categorically rule out the fluttering coming from her hand as the source of the waving object in Towner.

So---------------after all Mr. O'Meara's blowhard huffing and puffing, after all his bad-faith gaslighting----------------we're back just where we started:

Red Shirt Man energetically waving a flag (or somesuch) at Pres. Kennedy:



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Offline Zeon Mason

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2771 on: October 30, 2023, 02:02:37 AM »
I’m Towner, Not only the head is missing, but there’s no body of Oswald either so I’m not sure leaning against the west wall would provide enough shadow to completely hide Oswald’s body.

So 1. the flapping flag banner thingy must be obscuring all of the body of Oswald , while just his head is in the shadow ,
or 2. he is bending down so both his head and body are behind the banner,
or 3. conspirators added black spray to remove the head and upper body, 
or 4. the flapping thingy is the flag of the woman behind black hat cowboy man and the different perspective angle of Towner vs Bell shifts the position of the woman relative to the TSBD behind the woman.

I’d like to rule out option 4. because it would ruin a whole year of logical speculation that was necessary to replace the previous  logically speculated PM theory.

I’ll have to wait and see if some people with computer programs that generate perspective views from fixed points in plan view can determine if the flag waving woman’s position can shift from being in front of the perforated wall to be in front of the TSBD entrance.