Those Front Steps

[Alan Ford]

I've posted this image before but this is where I believe Frazier is, in the Wiegman frame.
https://i.imgur.com/XMxdoJm.jpg

Mr Mitcham, I presume you mean Mr Lovelady?

But yes, you did indeed post this image before-------------



-----------whereupon I asked you where PrayerPerson might go here in a way consistent with what we see in the actual Wiegman frame:



You never responded. Care to respond now?

 

[Ray Mitcham]

Mr Mitcham, I presume you mean Mr Lovelady?

But yes, you did indeed post this image before-------------



-----------whereupon I asked you where PrayerPerson might go here in a way consistent with what we see in the actual Wiegman frame:



You never responded. Care to respond now?

 

Quite right about my incorrectly posting Frazier rather than Lovelady. Thank you for correcting me. IMO, Prayerman is further against the left wall and slightly back from where he is in the above presentation.

Incidentally both Stancak and Hackerott's angles are similar and appear to match up with the position of the sun at 12.30, which was at an angle of 185˚ to North, and the TSBD is roughly 347˚ to North.  Actually the shadow will be in the same place at the time of the assassination today, if anybody should wish to go and take a photo.

[Alan Ford]

Quite right about my incorrectly posting Frazier rather than Lovelady. Thank you for correcting me.

 

IMO, Prayerman is further against the left wall and slightly back from where he is in the above presentation.

Can you show us please, so that we can compare it with what we see in the actual Wiegman frame? Thank you! 

Incidentally both Stancak and Hackerott's angles are similar and appear to match up with the position of the sun at 12.30, which was at an angle of 185˚ to North, and the TSBD is roughly 347˚ to North.  Actually the shadow will be in the same place at the time of the assassination today, if anybody should wish to go and take a photo.

 

[Royell Storing]

Assuming that Ford's 3D graphic is accurate, here's Frazier partially in the shadow. and for comparison next there's Lovelady.





JohnM

    All this proves is the Incorrect Time Stamping applied to the Images. There are people moving all over the place between the time span between these images.

[Peter Kleinschmidt]

Yes, I heard my name and credentials being called, how can I help?

At least I don't claim to be an xxxxxxxx.

I have plenty of hobbies, is that a problem?

JohnM

Yes, I don't need to hear about your life in the carnival

[Alan Ford]

Can you show us please, so that we can compare it with what we see in the actual Wiegman frame? Thank you! 

Let me politely nudge Mr Mitcham along here...

Mr Mitcham, in order to get Mr Lovelady over to the shadow line you have placed him well to the west of where Mr Hackerott places him:



You have further indicated that PrayerPerson is closer to the wall and back a little from where Mr Hackerott places him. I have used a yellow arrow here to move PrayerPerson in line with your suggestion. If you are unhappy with my arrow, give us one of your own!



Now! Let us consider first the angle at which Mr Wiegman is filming and second the sizeable gap between Mr Lovelady and PrayerPerson's heads which Wiegman shows when Mr Lovelady is at lower elevation:



Now, the green line in the image below joins the heads of Mr Lovelady and PrayerPerson in the positions you are placing them:



From Wiegman's perspective, your Mr Lovelady will be standing in front of your PrayerPerson!

Are you seriously suggesting that this is compatible with the gap between Mr Lovelady and PrayerPerson which Wiegman actually shows?

Please get real, my friend, and stop pushing this nonsense! 

[Royell Storing]

The Lovelady stepping down is a red herring because look at the distance from the top of Lovelady's head to the next frame, that distance is way too much for a step but if you look closely at the shape of Lovelady's head, the way he counterbalances himself with his right arm, the angle and shape of his Tshirt, his button shirt falling forward and creating a shadow across his tummy, his upper body twisting and the shadowing on Lovelady's face, it looks like he's ducking a little and bending forward as you do, to try and get a better look at something or maybe he was just leaning forward to tie up his shoe laces? The total amount of frames of Lovelady is about half a second and is just a flash in time.





And the shadow planes confirms the above.





So as can be seen, Lovelady isn't stepping down and his actions as described above places him here and PP is against the wall a foot in front of the glass.



JohnM

     This sea sick motion Malarkey is Bogus. Look at the Guy Standing Below Lovelady.  The Rear of his head is Contracting/getting smaller as Lovelady allegedly "Bends Forward"/downward. On top of that, when Lovelady allegedly "Bends Forward", his shirt actually is moving Backward/ Toward him and flapping/pressing closer to his chest. That shirt is Not falling "forward" as claimed. It is falling Back toward Lovelady. What we are seeing defies gravity.  This Sea Sick Motion stuff is Manufactured Hokum