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Offline Oscar Navarro

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Re: Did Oswald Go To Mexico City?
« Reply #203 on: January 29, 2019, 10:50:02 AM »
Your "humbly mealy stock boy" was telling people (the Paines for example) that he was a Marxist and that he detested the American political and economic systems.

In fact, according to Michael Paine and (others who were there) he attended an ACLU meeting where he stood up and warned about the far right in Dallas (Walker specifically) and got into a disagreement - reportedly a near fight - with another member over their disagreements. He said he didn't like the ACLU because it wasn't "political" enough.

Sure he was quiet on the job because he didn't want to get fired - again - for expressing his anti-US views. But he was still agitating for Castro and for his Marxist beliefs.

I agree with everything you say except that I think Oswald became disillusioned with Castro.

Offline Oscar Navarro

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Re: Did Oswald Go To Mexico City?
« Reply #204 on: January 29, 2019, 10:58:41 AM »
That proves he went to Mexico?That proves he went to Mexico? That proves he went to Mexico? Let's stick to the topic OK?

Does Oswald's employment at the TSBD confirm that he did not go to MC? Where the heck was Oswald between Sept 26th and October 3rd, 1963 if not on his way to Mexico, in MC and on his way back from MC?

Online Steve M. Galbraith

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Re: Did Oswald Go To Mexico City?
« Reply #205 on: January 29, 2019, 02:06:08 PM »
I agree with everything you say except that I think Oswald became disillusioned with Castro.
I'm not sure about that. He expressed anger at the Cuban consulate officials - especially Azcue - for turning down his request for a visa. But I don't think he blamed Castro for their acts. Did he ever tell anyone about his change in views?

I think he truly believed that once he showed the Cubans in Mexico City his pro-Castro activity that he had done in New Orleans that summer that they would welcome him to their "Revolution." So he was quite upset at the turn down. But remember they did grant him that transit visa later on. Although there's no evidence that I've seen that he knew about it.

Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: Did Oswald Go To Mexico City?
« Reply #206 on: January 29, 2019, 02:42:17 PM »
Does Oswald's employment at the TSBD confirm that he did not go to MC?
No one claimed that. Why are you inventing statements that were never made?
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Where the heck was Oswald between Sept 26th and October 3rd, 1963 if not on his way to Mexico...?
The strawman argument again---If Oswald was not in Mexico then where was he? We don't know where else he could have been..therefor he must have been in Mexico.


Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: Did Oswald Go To Mexico City?
« Reply #207 on: January 29, 2019, 03:02:48 PM »
  Oswald's visa picture. The very same picture appears as CE-2788.
The Report states that CE-2788 is a picture that was taken after "his [Oswald's] return from Russia". I cannot understand how he was sent by the Cuban embassy to have his visa picture taken in the first week of October '63 and then he comes back with this identical picture :-\
 https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=1142#relPageId=213&tab=page

Online Steve M. Galbraith

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Re: Did Oswald Go To Mexico City?
« Reply #208 on: January 29, 2019, 04:45:23 PM »
  Oswald's visa picture. The very same picture appears as CE-2788.
The Report states that CE-2788 is a picture that was taken after "his [Oswald's] return from Russia". I cannot understand how he was sent by the Cuban embassy to have his visa picture taken in the first week of October '63 and then he comes back with this identical picture :-\
Duran said she asked him for several copies of photos for his application (I believe it was four). She had to make carbon copies of his application and then attach a photo to each one. One photo wouldn't do since she had to send one copy of the application to Havana and keep one or two for the consulate records.

So isn't reasonable to believe that he had copies of that photo? He simply went back to his hotel and got them? Since she wanted multiple photos maybe that was the only one he had with multiple copies/versions.

I deleted the photos to save space/bandwidth.

Offline Thomas Graves

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Re: Did Oswald Go To Mexico City?
« Reply #209 on: January 29, 2019, 06:25:39 PM »
  Oswald's visa picture. The very same picture appears as CE-2788.
The Report states that CE-2788 is a picture that was taken after "his [Oswald's] return from Russia". I cannot understand how he was sent by the Cuban embassy to have his visa picture taken in the first week of October '63 and then he comes back with this identical picture :-\
 https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=1142#relPageId=213&tab=page


Dear Jerry,

What's so hard to understand about the following scenario (bearing in mind that the Armeggedon-fearing and FBI-protecting Warren Commission mistakenly assumed that the photo of Oswald had been taken after he returned to the U.S.):

Short, blond, blue-eyed, very thin-faced "Third Secretary / Assistant Cultual Attache" KGB colonel Nikolai Leonov not only impersonated Oswald over the phone in Mexico City, but provided Sylvia Duran with the taken-in-Minsk photo of him, and told her and her colleagues what to do and say (with permission from Fidel Castro, of course).

-- Mudd Wrassler Tommy  :)

PS  It's interesting to note that in this scenario, The Man Who Was Not There (Oswald) "somehow failed to take passport-sized photos of himself to the Cuban Consulate (even though he was a seasoned international traveler and must have passed several photo shops on his way from Hotel del Comercio to the Consulate that morning) and had to leave the Consulate and come back a couple of hours later with some taken-in-Mexico City photos of himself" ...

Why in the world would the KGB/DGI create such an implausible narrative?

... Well, to emphasize the "fact" that The Man Who Was Not There (Oswald) had -- LOL -- "actually been in Mexico City."


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