Did Oswald Go To Mexico City?

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Offline Thomas Graves

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Re: Did Oswald Go To Mexico City?
« Reply #196 on: January 28, 2019, 08:54:38 PM »
And an impostor that, according to the Cuban and Soviet personnel, made quite a scene. Duran and Azcue said Oswald raised a ruckus and had to be physically escorted out of the building. Azcue told him, "The Revolution doesn't need people like you."

Then this impostor goes to the Soviet Embassy and is, according to the KGB officers/Soviet Embassy staffers, hysterical and emotional. He pulls out a revolver and says he needs it to protect himself. He says the "notorious FBI" is after him. Quite a scene.

But this supposedly Oswald fake is trying to get a visa? Two of them. Visas with photos and signatures on them. That he had to provide? And he pulls stunts like this?

The Soviet Embassy in Washington had photos of Oswald; he lived there for several years and all citizens were required to have internal passports. Plus they had his application for a visa with his photo. So this fake Oswald goes to get a visa and Washington approves it and sends it to Mexico City. When the Soviet officials receive it and look at the photo and see this impostor is just that: an impostor, what would happen?

This whole idea of faking him is completely illogical given what he had to do - provide photos, give his signatures - once there.

Dear Steve M. Galbraith,

Have you considered the possibility that not only did Oswald not go to Mexico City, but that no one physically impersonated him there?

It could very well be that, just like the guy Duran and Azcue collectively described as their "Oswald in Mexico City" (short, blond, skinny, blue-eyed, 35 year-old, suit-wearing, very thin-faced), "Third Secretary / Assistant Cultural Attache" KGB colonel Nikolai Leonov provided Sylvia Duran with Oswald's taken-in-the-USSR photo, and told her and her colleagues what to do and say (with approval from Castro, of course).

-- Mudd Wrassler Tommy  :)

PS  Unless you'd rather believe that the evil, evil, evil "Deep State" CIA killed JFK.

LOL
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Online Steve M. Galbraith

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Re: Did Oswald Go To Mexico City?
« Reply #197 on: January 28, 2019, 09:41:44 PM »
  Are you being disingenuous there or cynical or both? Any reader can see what I wrote..... The show being about a rampant pro-Castro communist. Then as it seems, Oswald became a humble mealy stock boy at a book supply like nothing ever happened.
Your "humbly mealy stock boy" was telling people (the Paines for example) that he was a Marxist and that he detested the American political and economic systems.

In fact, according to Michael Paine and (others who were there) he attended an ACLU meeting where he stood up and warned about the far right in Dallas (Walker specifically) and got into a disagreement - reportedly a near fight - with another member over their disagreements. He said he didn't like the ACLU because it wasn't "political" enough.

Sure he was quiet on the job because he didn't want to get fired - again - for expressing his anti-US views. But he was still agitating for Castro and for his Marxist beliefs. Correction: Not true on that last point about Castro. But he was still describing himself as a Marxist to others.
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Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: Did Oswald Go To Mexico City?
« Reply #198 on: January 28, 2019, 10:10:37 PM »
Your "humbly mealy stock boy" was telling people (the Paines for example) that he was a Marxist and that he detested the American political and economic systems.
That proves he went to Mexico?
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In fact, according to Michael Paine and (others who were there) he attended an ACLU meeting where he stood up and warned about the far right in Dallas (Walker specifically) and got into a disagreement - reportedly a near fight - with another member over their disagreements. He said he didn't like the ACLU because it wasn't "political" enough.
That proves he went to Mexico?
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Sure he was quiet on the job because he didn't want to get fired - again - for expressing his anti-US views. But he was still agitating for Castro and for his Marxist beliefs.
That proves he went to Mexico? Let's stick to the topic OK?

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Re: Did Oswald Go To Mexico City?
« Reply #199 on: January 28, 2019, 11:38:16 PM »
  Are you being disingenuous there or cynical or both? Any reader can see what I wrote..... The show being about a rampant pro-Castro communist. Then as it seems, Oswald became a humble mealy stock boy at a book supply like nothing ever happened.

Jerry FWIW.... I believe that the cretins who were setting Lee up had another man at hand in Mexico City while Lee was there....  They had the second man there to impersonate lee, and cover for him  and create confusion if anybody tried to tail Lee Oswald....   

The fact that they confused many can be seen in the fact that there are many who still doubt that Lee went to Mexico City....
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Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: Did Oswald Go To Mexico City?
« Reply #200 on: January 29, 2019, 04:20:16 AM »
Oswalds were coming out of the woodwork before Nov 22. Lee was not supposed to have been in Dallas during the month of September...however the FBI filed this report----
https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=10672#relPageId=511
Too bad that application got tossed away. I would like to have seen it.

Offline Oscar Navarro

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Re: Did Oswald Go To Mexico City?
« Reply #201 on: January 29, 2019, 09:28:10 AM »
  Are you being disingenuous there or cynical or both? Any reader can see what I wrote..... The show being about a rampant pro-Castro communist. Then as it seems, Oswald became a humble mealy stock boy at a book supply like nothing ever happened.

Nice little word game you're playing there, Jerry. By claiming the possibility of something and then inserting [seem like] after the fact you can affirm or deny anything that suits you.  Who's really the disingenuous one here, Jerry? Also, Oswald was pretty much disillusioned in being rejected by the Cuban consulate and did in fact appear to have cooled off with his enthusiasm for a Cuban adventure. Upon his return from MC he began looking for work, I believe became more interested in learning how to drive and there's no evidence that he wanted to resume his FPCC activities.
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Re: Did Oswald Go To Mexico City?
« Reply #202 on: January 29, 2019, 09:38:24 AM »
And an impostor that, according to the Cuban and Soviet personnel, made quite a scene. Duran and Azcue said Oswald raised a ruckus and had to be physically escorted out of the building. Azcue told him, "The Revolution doesn't need people like you."

Then this impostor goes to the Soviet Embassy and is, according to the KGB officers/Soviet Embassy staffers, hysterical and emotional. He pulls out a revolver and says he needs it to protect himself. He says the "notorious FBI" is after him. Quite a scene.

But this supposedly Oswald fake is trying to get a visa? Two of them. Visas with photos and signatures on them. That he had to provide? And he pulls stunts like this?

The Soviet Embassy in Washington had photos of Oswald; he lived there for several years and all citizens were required to have internal passports. Plus they had his application for a visa with his photo. So this fake Oswald goes to get a visa and Washington approves it and sends it to Mexico City. When the Soviet officials receive it and look at the photo and see this impostor is just that: an impostor, what would happen?

This whole idea of faking him is completely illogical given what he had to do - provide photos, give his signatures - once there.

In other words, the crazier the circumstances the more reason for believing there was a plot. It reminds me of those Rube Goldberg creations that had really complicated machines doing very simple tasks.