Did Oswald Go To Mexico City?

[Oscar Navarro]

A visa is placed/attached in the passport. That is why I asked. The whereabouts of that passport would be quite significant. If there was a passport presented and in place---the Warren supporters would herald a resounding 'there you go!'...lets not kid ourselves.
Probably thousands of Americans traveled to Cuba during the boycott days. Many went for medical reasons. Hospital care was much cheaper. I don't know that anyone was ever charged with an infraction. They didn't even need that much as I wrote pages ago. Perhaps you meant Cuba?
So, I still maintain the possibility that an imposter went to Mexico in Oswald's name and made everything for an elaborate show.

No, I meant Mexico. As what was needed to get to Cuba apparently what Oswald offered was good enough because the Cuban government granted him a visa. You want to believe there was an Oswald impostor that's your business but if a show is what you're looking for the actual Oswald visit was a pretty good show in and of itself. BTW, I don't see what purpose it would serve to have an Oswald impostor at the Cuban and Soviet consulates. Who's interest were served by coming up with this ruse?

[Thomas Graves]

No, I meant Mexico. As what was needed to get to Cuba apparently what Oswald offered was good enough because the Cuban government granted him a visa. You want to believe there was an Oswald impostor that's your business but if a show is what you're looking for the actual Oswald visit was a pretty good show in and of itself. BTW, I don't see what purpose it would serve to have an Oswald impostor at the Cuban and Soviet consulates. Who's interest were served by coming up with this ruse?

Dear Oscar,

The Cuban government granted Oswald a visa to visit Cuba?

-- Mudd Wrassler Tommy 

PS  Whose interest was it in to have an emotional, "Communist," virtual Oswald "show up" at  both consulates (and at the Soviet embassy on Sunday, September 29, according to "Third Secretary / Assistant Cultural Attache" Nikolai Leonov)?

Why, the KGB, of course.  So that not only could it paint Oswald as someone who was emotionally capable of killing an American president, but to establish the "fact" that he had met with "Department 13" Valiery Kostikov at the Soviet consulate on Saturday, September 28 -- as "verified" by KGB triple-agent Ivan Obyedkov over a sure-to-be-tapped-by-CIA phoneline to an Oswald impostor (probably Nikoloi Leonov, himself) on Tuesday, October 1.

Why?

To plant a "WW III Virus" in Lee Harvey Oswald's CIA file, to ensure that Armeggedon-fearing CIA and egg-on-face-fearing FBI would cover up all evidence of Soviet and Cuban complicity in the assassination, ergo, e.g., Karamessine's desperate entreaties to the Mexican Police to "go easy" on Sylvia Duran.

[Jerry Freeman]

  ... the Cuban government granted him a visa.

So what? He was already working at the TSBD.

I don't see what purpose it would serve to have an Oswald impostor at the Cuban and Soviet consulates. Who's interest were served by coming up with this ruse?

I have already answered that.
 

[Thomas Graves]

Dear Oscar,

The Cuban government granted Oswald a visa to visit Cuba?

-- Mudd Wrassler Tommy 

PS  Whose interest was it in to have an emotional, "Communist," virtual Oswald "show up" at  both consulates (and at the Soviet embassy on Sunday, September 29, according to "Third Secretary / Assistant Cultural Attache" Nikolai Leonov)?

Why, the KGB, of course.  So that not only could it paint Oswald as someone who was emotionally capable of killing an American president, but to establish the "fact" that he had met with "Department 13" Valiery Kostikov at the Soviet consulate on Saturday, September 28 -- as "verified" by KGB triple-agent Ivan Obyedkov over a sure-to-be-tapped-by-CIA phoneline to an Oswald impostor (probably Nikoloi Leonov, himself) on Tuesday, October 1.

Why?

To plant a "WW III Virus" in Lee Harvey Oswald's CIA file, to ensure that Armeggedon-fearing CIA and egg-on-face-fearing FBI would cover up all evidence of Soviet and Cuban complicity in the assassination, ergo, e.g., Thomas Karamessines' desperate entreaties to the Mexican Police to "go easy" on Sylvia Duran, and CIA's refusing to admit for so many years that Oswald (actually virtual Oswald) had visited the Cuban consulate, etc.

Added onto A LOT and bumped.

-- Mudd Wrassler Tommy 

[Thomas Graves]

And all of this coming from the guy who first thought the CIA did it, then thought that Oswald did it, and who now thinks the KGB did it. Some "research" you got going on there Gravovich.  Oh I get it, you figure if you just cover all bases and spread them out you are bound to be right someday right? Hit and miss much in the research department Gravovich? LOL 

Dear Johnny B. Bad,

Yep, I made the mistake of seeing JFK, and of reading (in no particular order) Crossfire, and JFK and the Unspeakable, and The Man Who Knew Too Much, and Plausible Denial, and Deep Politics and the Assassination of JFK, and Oswald and the CIA, and Bloody Treason, and Somebody Would Have Talked, and The Ghost, and Simpich's State Secret, and about five other "the evil, evil, evil CIA did it" books that I can't remember the titles of now, but then, luckily, I read Spy Wars and Ghosts of the Spy Wars, and Wedge: The Secret War Between the FBI and CIA, and ... gulp ... Legend, ... and I'll be darned if I didn't start to see the light.

Why do you ask, Johnny?

Do you think it's better to be close-minded or something?

Question:  Have you figured out who Duran's and Azcue's "Blond Oswald in Mexico City" was, yet?

-- Mudd Wrassler Tommy 

[Jerry Freeman]

 

  You want to believe there was an Oswald impostor that's your business 

Are you being disingenuous there or cynical or both? Any reader can see what I wrote.....

I still maintain the possibility that an imposter went to Mexico in Oswald's name and made everything [seem like] an elaborate show.

The show being about a rampant pro-Castro communist. Then as it seems, Oswald became a humble mealy stock boy at a book supply like nothing ever happened.

[Steve M. Galbraith]

No, I meant Mexico. As what was needed to get to Cuba apparently what Oswald offered was good enough because the Cuban government granted him a visa. You want to believe there was an Oswald impostor that's your business but if a show is what you're looking for the actual Oswald visit was a pretty good show in and of itself. BTW, I don't see what purpose it would serve to have an Oswald impostor at the Cuban and Soviet consulates. Who's interest were served by coming up with this ruse?

And an impostor that, according to the Cuban and Soviet personnel, made quite a scene. Duran and Azcue said Oswald raised a ruckus and had to be physically escorted out of the building. Azcue told him, "The Revolution doesn't need people like you."

Then this impostor goes to the Soviet Embassy and is, according to the KGB officers/Soviet Embassy staffers, hysterical and emotional. He pulls out a revolver and says he needs it to protect himself. He says the "notorious FBI" is after him. Quite a scene.

But this supposedly Oswald fake is trying to get a visa? Two of them. Visas with photos and signatures on them. That he had to provide? And he pulls stunts like this?

The Soviet Embassy in Washington had photos of Oswald; he lived there for several years and all citizens were required to have internal passports. Plus they had his application for a visa with his photo. So this fake Oswald goes to get a visa and Washington approves it and sends it to Mexico City. When the Soviet officials receive it and look at the photo and see this impostor is just that: an impostor, what would happen?

This whole idea of faking him is completely illogical given what he had to do - provide photos, give his signatures - once there.