O H Lee and the Beckley Rooming House

[Walt Cakebread]

That was very much later in the day. The cops were all over the Beckley house just like Roberts as well as the Johnsons said.
 Quote from: Oscar Navarro that began the thread.No one has ever demonstrated what it "is solid evidence of" anyway.
So did he actually register as O H Lee or was he just registered as O H Lee? It seems now there is a difference.

Mrs Robert's said that she opened Lee Oswald's room for the police when they came to the house looking for lee Oswald.....HUH?   Lee Oswald was in police custody at 1:40 PM.....  Soooo...... If Mrs Roberts is correct then the police were there at the rooming house before 1:40.  Mrs Roberts said nothing about a search warrant ...she said that she allowed the police to enter Lee's room....

[Tom Scully]

Mrs Robert's said that she opened Lee Oswald's room for the police when they came to the house looking for lee Oswald.....HUH?   Lee Oswald was in police custody at 1:40 PM.....  Soooo...... If Mrs Roberts is correct then the police were there at the rooming house before 1:40.  Mrs Roberts said nothing about a search warrant ...she said that she allowed the police to enter Lee's room....

Please. Stop posting nonsense. Stop misleading readers.

https://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh24/pdf/WH24_CE_2003.pdf

http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/johnso_a.htm
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Mr. BELIN. This would have been on November 22, 1963?
Mr. JOHNSON. Yes.
Mr. BELIN. And can you state what happened?
Mr. JOHNSON. Well, they just came down there looking for--uh--Oswald.
Mr. BELIN. Did they say what his full name was?
Mr. JOHNSON. Yes, I believe they did.
Mr. BELIN. Lee Harvey Oswald?
Mr. JOHNSON. I believe they did.
Mr. BELIN. Did they say how they happened to come there?

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Mr. JOHNSON. "Well, uh--after he was--uh--apprehended out there, they searched him and found my address in his pocket
Mr. BELIN. Your address of 1026 North Beckley?
Mr. JOHNSON. That's right.
Mr. BELIN. All right. What happened when the officers got there? They asked if Lee Harvey Oswald lived there?
Mr. JOHNSON. Yes.
Mr. BELIN. How long had you been at the house when the officers arrived?
Mr. JOHNSON. Oh, probably 30 minutes.
Mr. BELIN. Do you remember about what time of the day they arrived?
Mr. JOHNSON. Well, it must have been around 1:30 or 2 o'clock--the best I remember.
Mr. BELIN. When did you get home that day from your work?
Mr. JOHNSON. Well, it was around 1 o'clock or maybe a little bit after.
Mr. BELIN. At the time you had gotten home, had you heard that the President had been shot?
Mr. JOHNSON. Yes. I heard that before I went home.
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Mr. BELIN. By the way, I might .ask you one question that we forgot. When the police first came on November 22, did they have a search warrant at all or not? Or don't you remember?
Mr. JOHNSON. Uh--they didn't have one at the time; but they called and got one before they went into his room.
Mr. BELIN. They called and got a search warrant before they went in his room?
Mr. JOHNSON. Yes. They called over my phone.
Mr. BELIN. Over your phone? You heard them call?
Mr. JOHNSON. Yes.
Mr. BELIN All right. I believe that's all. Thank you very much, sir.

Johnson's wife, DPD detective Potts, and Bill Alexander testified similarly, except Potts said he and other police arrived at
3:00 pm, reasonable considering where he said he was and what he was doing before arriving at 1026 N. Beckley

http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/potts.htm
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Mr. BALL. Before you went out there, did you get a search warrant?
Mr. POTTS. No; we didn't--we didn't get a search warrant at that time. We went to the location and talked to the people there.
Mr. BALL. That's Lt. E. L. Cunningham?
Mr. POTTS. Yes, sir.
Mr. BALL. And who else?
Mr. POTTS. B. L. Senkel.
Mr. BALL. And yourself?
Mr. POTTS. And myself.
Mr. BALL. And you went out to where?
Mr. POTTS. 1026 North Beckley.
Mr. BALL. What happened when you got there?
Mr. POTTS. We got there and we talked to this Mrs.--I believe her name was Johnson.
Mr. BALL Mrs. A. C. Johnson?
Mr. POTTS. Mrs. Johnson and Mrs. Roberts.
Mr. BALL. Earlene Roberts?
Mr. POTTS. Yes; and they didn't know a Lee Harvey Oswald or an Alex Hidell either one and they couldn't--they just didn't have any idea who we were talking about, so the television--it is a rooming house, and there was a television----
Mr. BALL. Did you check their registration books?
Mr. POTTS. Yes, sir; we looked at the registration book--Senkel, I think, or Cunningham--well, we all looked through the registration book and there wasn't anyone by that name, and the television was on in the living room. There's an area there where the roomers sit, I guess it's the living quarters--it flashed Oswald's picture on there and one of the women, either Mrs. Roberts or Mrs. Johnson said, "That's the man that lives here. That's Mr. Lee---O.H. Lee." She said, "His room is right here right off of the living room."
Senkel or Cunningham, one of them, called the office and they said that Turner was en route with a search warrant and we waited there until 4:30 or 5 that afternoon. We got out there about 3.
Mr. BALL. You waited there in the home?
Mr. POTTS. We waited there in the living quarters.
Mr. BALL. You did not go into the small room that had been rented by Lee?
Mr. POTTS. No; we didn't--we didn't search the room at all until we got the warrant.
Mr. BALL. Who brought the warrant out?
Mr. POTTS. Judge David Johnston.
Mr. BALL. The judge issued it, but who brought it out?

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Mr. POTTS. Well, F. M. Turner and H. M. Moore was with him, and Judge David Johnston was there, and also Assistant District Attorney Bill Alexander.
Mr. BALL. Did David L. Johnston go too, the justice of the peace?
Mr. POTTS. Yes, the judge was there in person.
Mr. BALL. He was?
Mr. POTTS. Yes; and also Assistant District Attorney Bill Alexander--they all came in the same car.
Mr. BALL. What did you do then?
Mr. POTTS. Well, after we showed Johnson the search warrant, I think it was Johnson, we went on in the room and continued to search the room, and we took everything in there that we could find.....

http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/johnso_g.htm
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Mr. BALL. On the day of the 22d of November, were you home around 1 o'clock?
Mrs. JOHNSON. It must have been 1:30 or 2, something like that.
Mr. BALL. When you came home?
Mrs. JOHNSON. Yes; after serving lunch.
Mr. BALL. Did Earlene Roberts say anything to you whether or not this man had returned?
Mrs. JOHNSON. No; after these officers came in, well, then she began to tell them that he did come rushing in and she had gotten a phone call or had made one, anyway, she was on the phone--no, there was someone called her, that's what she said, said someone called her and she says, "Did you know that the President had been assassinated" and she says, "Why, no" and she says, "Well, it's on the television now" and she says, "I will run and turn it on" and she run in and turned this television on to get this information and this Oswald walked in hurriedly and she said, she said to him, "You seem to be in a hurry." She was the only one in that place. She said he didn't say a word but went on in his room and she said he changed his little zip-up coat, way I understand it, and just went right back out. He evidently got the gun; now, we don't know.
Mr. BALL. Did she tell the officers that?
Mrs. JOHNSON. Yeah, she told the officers that.
Mr. BALL. When they came out there, did they have a search warrant?
Mrs. JOHNSON. Yes, surely.
Mr. BALL. Did you permit them to search his room?
Mrs. JOHNSON. Yes; they taken everything immediately out of his room.
Mr. BALL. Did you look in the room while they were searching it?
Mrs. JOHNSON. I certainly did. .......

http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/fritz1.htm
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Mr. BALL. Did you ask him whether it was north or south?
Mr. FRITZ. Yes, but he didn't know. But from the description of surroundings we could tell it was North Beckley.
Mr. BALL. Up to that time you hadn't sent any men out to North Beckley, had you?
Mr. FRITZ. Well, I sent them out there real soon and Officer Potts called me back from out there and talked to me on the telephone and gave me a report from out there on the telephone, and I am sure that that is the time that he told me about the way he was registered, and I asked Oswald about why he was registered under this other name.
Mr. BALL. What other name?
Mr. FRITZ. Of O. L. Lee.
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[Jerry Freeman]

Mrs Robert's said that she opened Lee Oswald's room for the police when they came to the house looking for lee Oswald.....HUH?   Lee Oswald was in police custody at 1:40 PM.....  Soooo...... If Mrs Roberts is correct then the police were there at the rooming house before 1:40.  Mrs Roberts said nothing about a search warrant ...she said that she allowed the police to enter Lee's room....

Yeah...that is what she said---So what is the problem here?=======

Please. Stop posting nonsense. Stop misleading readers. Johnson's wife, DPD detective Potts, and Bill Alexander testified similarly, except Potts said he and other police arrived at 3:00 pm, reasonable considering where he said he was and what he was doing before arriving at 1026 N. Beckley.

Mrs Roberts stated that "Fritz's men" showed up first. Bill Alexander was not Fritz's man...he was the Asst D A.
 

[Charles Collins]

Quote from: Oscar Navarro on Today at 12:05:00 AM
      That Oswald registered at N. Beckley under O. H. Lee is "solid evidence".
What makes it 'solid evidence'? When you actually register, you sign a book that asks your name. And you register your name along with the list of other renters. Some registers might want more information [business..what city you are from..etc]   I mean we're not talking about the Statler Hilton here..this was just an $8 a week flophouse right? Gladys Johnson was the owner.
 Mrs Johnson mentioned nothing about an O H Lee.****
Mrs Johnson 'didn't bring the register'? If that was evidence and I think it should have been...to verify Oscars claim at least -so how does Oscar know for sure that Oswald registered as O H Lee?
 Mrs Johnson did bring this receipt paper. Joe Ball was happy with that and entered it in the record as JohnsonGladys Exibit A......and just called it the "Rooming House Register" H-XX
 Apparently, what Mrs Johnson forgot to bring along [what she called the register] just wasn't important after all.
 Well I've looked around for that register as an exhibit ...it looks like I need some help. Mytton.. Chapman.. Howsley.. Smith ..Organ where are you guys? I want to see the name of OH Lee written in a real register along with the names of the other renters or else it is not official that Oswald registered as OH Lee and is therefore not evidence.
This is what Joe Ball entered in. It doesn't look much like a weekly tabulated receipt book at all. It looks fake. It looks like it was the weeks that Oswald stayed there all filled out at once and somebody just wrote OH Lee on it [5 letters that couldn't be all that hard to forge]  And just what in hell made this scrap of paper all that top secret
     
Earlene Roberts the housekeeper did testify that Oswald registered as O H Lee. In fact she repeated it about 10 times ...
 Earlene Roberts was an elderly lady with admitted hearing difficulty. It is possible she became confused. She 'thought' his name was O H Lee.
If someone repeats something often enough it becomes truth [whether it is or not]
That solid evidence just might have vaporized right there.
Mrs Johnson said that renters started leaving soon after Oswald did. I wonder why? Who were they?
 ****CORRECTION--- I meant to express that Mrs Johnson did not mention the name O H Lee in that particular statement. However as usual..the WR defenders will find any wart, booger, or dingleberry to pick at. When they error...it is of course, entirely excusable.

Well I've looked around for that register as an exhibit ...it looks like I need some help. Mytton.. Chapman.. Howsley.. Smith ..Organ where are you guys? I want to see the name of OH Lee written in a real register along with the names of the other renters or else it is not official that Oswald registered as OH Lee and is therefore not evidence.

Hugh Aynesworth writes in his book "November 22, 1963 Witness to History" on pages 50 - 51:

Earlene Roberts, the housekeeper, greeted me at the door of the rooming house at 1026 North Beckley. Peering from behind thick eyeglasses, Mrs. Roberts told me that I was the first reporter on the scene. The police and federal agents had just left after thoroughly searching the place.

She said she knew Mr. Oswald as Mr. Lee, a quiet loner who'd rented a room for eight dollars a week since October 14. She even offered to give me the rooming house register, a loose-leaf notebook in which Oswald had printed the name O.H. Lee. Like a fool, I declined.

So a "real register," in the sense that you are describing, (I assume a bound book made for that particular purpose) that you are looking for, is apparently not what they used at this particular rooming house. Only a loose-leaf notebook. By the way, Hugh Aynesworth is still around. If you really want to know more details of what exactly he remembers that the book looked like, look him up and contact him. He is very friendly and really does try to help answer questions from both sides of the fence.

[Walt Cakebread]

That was very much later in the day. The cops were all over the Beckley house just like Roberts as well as the Johnsons said.
 Quote from: Oscar Navarro that began the thread.No one has ever demonstrated what it "is solid evidence of" anyway.
So did he actually register as O H Lee or was he just registered as O H Lee? It seems now there is a difference.

That was very much later in the day.

The ONE AND ONLY interrogation that Hosty attended began at 3:15.....  But It's possible that Lee told some other cop that he had a room at 1026 N. Beckley, prior to the 1st official interrogation.

[Jerry Freeman]

Mrs Roberts stated that "Fritz's men" showed up first. Bill Alexander was not Fritz's man...he was the Asst D A.

Alexander was everywhere that day ...at the TSBD....at the Tippit scene...at the Oswald house --Why was he all over the place?
Bill Alexander--Mr [self designated?] cop on the spot. He did not file a report...he did not submit an affidavit...he did not testify before the Commission.
However...Henry Wade did testify and he didn't witness jack crap!

[Walt Cakebread]

Alexander was everywhere that day ...at the TSBD....at the Tippit scene...at the Oswald house --Why was he all over the place?
Bill Alexander--Mr [self designated?] cop on the spot. He did not file a report...he did not submit an affidavit...he did not testify before the Commission.
However...Henry Wade did testify and he didn't witness jack crap!

Alexander was Henry Wades puppet....  Wade knew the details of the plot, but he wanted to be sure about what actually was happening, thus Alexander kept him abreast of events.