O H Lee and the Beckley Rooming House

[Walt Cakebread]

I'm glad you confirm that Baker never said that Oswald was wearing a brown jacket but this insistence on an exact description of someone who is unknown and seen only fleetingly is incomprehensible to me. It also strikes me as disingenuous considering that for so many years CTers (and I'm not saying you fall into this particular category, or you may, I don't know) insisted that Billy Lovelady was Lee Oswald when in fact their faces did not match, Oswald had stated he was in the lunch room during the shooting, and I believe Lovelady was about 4" shorter than Oswald.

Mr. BELIN - Did you notice what clothes the man was wearing as he came up to you?
Mr. BAKER - At that particular time I was looking at his face, and it seemed to me like he had a light brown jacket on and maybe some kind of white-looking shirt.

Anyway, as I noticed him walking away from me, it was kind of dim in there that particular day, and it was hanging out to his side.
Mr. BELIN - Handing you what has been marked as Commission Exhibit 150, would this appear to be anything that you have ever seen before?
Mr. BAKER - Yes, sir; I believe that is the shirt that he had on when he came. I wouldn't be sure of that. It seemed to me like that other shirt was a little bit darker than that whenever I saw him in the homicide office there.
Mr. BELIN - What about when you saw him in the School Book Depository Building, does this look familiar as anything he was wearing, if you know?
Mr. BAKER - I couldn't say whether that was--it seemed to me it was a light-colored brown but I couldn't say it was that or not.
Mr. DULLES - Lighter brown did you say, I am just asking what you said. I couldn't quite hear.
Mr. BAKER - Yes, sir; all I can remember it was in my recollection of it it was a light brown jacket.
Mr. BELIN - Are you referring to this Exhibit 150 as being similar to the jacket or similar to the shirt that you saw or, if not, similar to either one?
Mr. BAKER - Well, it would be similar in color to it--I assume it was a jacket, it was hanging out. Now, I was looking at his face and I wasn't really paying any attention. After Mr. Truly said he knew him, so I didn't pay any attention to him, so I just turned and went on.
Mr. BELIN - Now, you did see him later at the police station, is that correct?
Mr. BAKER - Yes, sir.
Mr. BELIN - Was he wearing anything that looked like Exhibit 150 at the police station?
Mr. BAKER - He did have a brown-type shirt on that was out.
Mr. BELIN - Did it appear to be similar to any clothing you had seen when you saw him at the School Book Depository Building?
Mr. BAKER - I could have mistaken it for a jacket, but to my recollection it was a little colored jacket, that is all I can say.
Mr. DULLES - You saw Oswald later in the lineup or later
Mr. BAKER - I never did have a chance to see him in the lineup. I saw him when I went to give the affidavit, the statement that I saw him down there, of the actions of myself and Mr. Truly as we went into the building and on up what we are discussing now.
(At this point Senator Cooper entered the hearing room.)
Mr. BELIN - Officer Baker
Mr. DULLES - I didn't get clearly in mind, I am trying to check up, as to whether you saw Oswald maybe in the same costume later in the day. Did you see Oswald later in the day of November 22d?
Mr. BAKER - Yes, sir; I did.
Mr. DULLES - Under what circumstances? Don't go into detail, I just want to tie up these two situations.
Mr. BAKER - As I was in the homicide office there writing this, giving this affidavit, I got hung in one of those little small offices back there, while the Secret Service took Mr. Oswald in there and questioned him and I couldn't get out by him while they were questioning him, and I did get to see him at that time.
Mr. DULLES - You saw him for a moment at that time?

[Jerry Freeman]

I'm glad you confirm that Baker never said that Oswald was wearing a brown jacket 

Why R U glad? Baker said the man was in his thirties and weighed about 165 pounds, with dark hair and he was wearing a light brown or tan jacket.   That does not=CE-150 but does = CE-151. What is not understood there? Baker merely called the long sleeve shirt worn openly a jacket.

Mr. BELIN - Handing you what has been marked as Commission Exhibit 150, would this appear to be anything that you have ever seen before?
Mr. BAKER - Yes, sir; I believe that is the shirt that he had on when he came. I wouldn't be sure of that. It seemed to me like that other shirt was a little bit darker than that whenever I saw him in the homicide office there....all I can remember it was in my recollection of it it was a light brown jacket.

Warren Commission---Witnesses! Identify this damn shirt!
Witnesses----OK if you want... but I can't be sure

[Walt Cakebread]

Why R U glad? Baker said the man was in his thirties and weighed about 165 pounds, with dark hair and he was wearing a light brown or tan jacket.   That does not=CE-150 but does = CE-151. What is not understood there? Baker merely called the long sleeve shirt worn openly a jacket.Warren Commission---Witnesses! Identify this damn shirt!
Witnesses----OK if you want... but I can't be sure

It's important to point out that there are TWO individuals involved ..... The man that Baker saw WALKING AWAY FROM THE STAIRS in the DIMLY LIT third or fourth floor was wearing a tan Jacket .... This man was about thirty years old and weighed about 165 pounds with dark hair ....

The Other man was Lee Oswald who Baker saw walking by at the time he was writing his affidavit....Baker DID NOT recognize or identify Lee as the man that he saw on either third or fourth floor....and he said that the Shirt that Lee was wearing in the police station did NOT look like the jacket that he had seen the third floor man wearing.

Mr. BELIN - Handing you what has been marked as Commission Exhibit 150, would this appear to be anything that you have ever seen before?
Mr. BAKER - Yes, sir; I believe that is the shirt that he had on when he came ( back to me when I called out and commanded him to "come here". I wouldn't be sure of that. It seemed to me like that other shirt was a little bit darker than that whenever I saw (Lee Oswald) in the homicide office there.

[Jerry Freeman]

Jerry, Jerry, Jerry.....

Oscar is departed presently but apparently he thought there are three of me

Mr. BALL. Did he tell you what his name was?
Mrs. JOHNSON. O.H. L-e-e [spelling].
Mr. BALL. Did he sign anything with that name?
Mrs. JOHNSON. Yes, sir; I have it in my purse. 
Mrs. JOHNSON. Yes, sir; the day he rented the room, they sign the register--they sign the register before I accept any money. 
Mr. BALL. I'm talking about this "O. H. Lee" signature on this document; he signed that on that date?
Mrs. JOHNSON. Yes, sir.
Mr. BALL. Did he give you the money?
Mr. BALL. $8?
Mr. BALL. Did you ever know his true name was Lee Harvey Oswald?
Mrs. JOHNSON. No; not until we saw his picture flash on the television as the officers were out. Those particulars was found in his pocket after he killed Tippit, after his arrest. So I came from the restaurant, I guess 1 or 1:30, and these officers were there 1:30 or 2, something like that, anyway, it was after this assassination, and as I drove in, well, the officers were there and they told me that they was looking for this character and I told them I didn't think I had anyone by that name there but we went through the register carefully two or three times and there was no Oswald there and I had two new tenants, rather new tenants, so we had carried them around the house to show them and we was going to start in the new tenants' rooms and my husband was sitting in the living room and seen this picture flash on the television and he said, "Please go around that house and tell him it was this guy that lived in this room here"; and it was O. H. Lee.
Mr. BALL. That is the first time you learned his name was Oswald?
Mrs. JOHNSON. Yes.
Mr. BALL. You knew him as O. H. Lee?
Mrs. JOHNSON. Yes; I knew him as O. H. Lee.
Mr. BALL. The first time you knew the man to be Lee Harvey Oswald that you had known as O. H. Lee?
Mrs. JOHNSON. That's right...??

Direct solid evidence that Oswald rented the room under an assumed name, an alias, O. H. Lee. Oswald signed the document, Mrs. Johnson was present when Oswald signed the document, Mr. and Mrs. Johnson both identified Oswald as O. H. Lee.

But Gladys Johnson did not bring the register she mentioned. She brought a slip of paper [with payment dates] that was obviously filled out en prompt tu and just had O H Lee written on it.
Re-read this thread and see where the Johnsons were 'inaccurate' concerning their story that day.
"Mr. BALL. Did you ever know his true name was Lee Harvey Oswald?
Mrs. JOHNSON. No; not until we saw his picture flash on the television as the officers were out. Those particulars was found in his pocket after he killed Tippit, after his arrest.....I guess 1 or 1:30, and these officers were there 1:30 or 2"
 That would have been impossible. That would have meant that Oswald's picture came on TV before he was ever arrested!

[Jerry Freeman]

Mr. BELIN. And can you state what happened?
Mr. JOHNSON. Well, they just came down there looking for--uh--Oswald.
Mr. BELIN. Did they say what his full name was?
Mr. JOHNSON. Yes, I believe they did.
Mr. BELIN. Lee Harvey Oswald?
Mr. JOHNSON. I believe they did.
Mr. BELIN. Did they say how they happened to come there?
Mr. JOHNSON. "Well, uh--after he was--uh--apprehended out there, they searched him and found my address in his pocket
Mr. BELIN. Your address of 1026 North Beckley?
Mr. JOHNSON. That's right.

There was absolutely no reason at all why Oswald would just be carrying around the Beckley address in his pocket
Furthermore there is no mention of any address information being listed in the inventory of items found on Oswald's person  when he was arrested...
In fact there was an alleged bus transfer right in his front shirt pocket and it wasn't found [it was said] until Oswald was being booked.

[Walt Cakebread]

There was absolutely no reason at all why Oswald would just be carrying around the Beckley address in his pocket
Furthermore there is no mention of any address information being listed in the inventory of items found on Oswald's person  when he was arrested...
In fact there was an alleged bus transfer right in his front shirt pocket and it wasn't found [it was said] until Oswald was being booked.

There was absolutely no reason at all why Oswald would just be carrying around the Beckley address in his pocket

That's simply a made up story....Because according to FBI agent James Hosty Lee Oswald himself provided the address of the rooming house during the first few minutes of the interrogation...and Captain Fritz confirmed it...(though he tried to lie about Lee giving them the rooming house address)

[Jerry Freeman]

There was absolutely no reason at all why Oswald would just be carrying around the Beckley address in his pocket

That's simply a made up story....Because according to FBI agent James Hosty Lee Oswald himself provided the address of the rooming house during the first few minutes of the interrogation...and Captain Fritz confirmed it...(though he tried to lie about Lee giving them the rooming house address)

That was very much later in the day. The cops were all over the Beckley house just like Roberts as well as the Johnsons said.
 Quote from: Oscar Navarro that began the thread.

    That Oswald registered at N. Beckley under O. H. Lee is "solid evidence".

No one has ever demonstrated what it "is solid evidence of" anyway.
So did he actually register as O H Lee or was he just registered as O H Lee? It seems now there is a difference.