O H Lee and the Beckley Rooming House

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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: O H Lee and the Beckley Rooming House
« Reply #140 on: February 28, 2020, 03:38:22 PM »
Bledsoe saw a hole in the elbow part of the brown shirt sleeve?
then Oswald must Have been wearing a jacket overtop the brown shirt and had the jacket sleeves rolled up above the elbow = absurd
Or he was carrying the jacket Folded over his arm or similar way just carrying it with him ?

Can anyone show some statement from Bledsoe to resolve this dilemma?

Otherwise Bledsoe saw some other Oswald or she has mistaken some other bus passenger for Oswald like McWatters the bus driver did.

Does anyone think that someone desiring to avoid FBI surveillance would choose an alias exactly his real name in reverse order?

Or carry a fake alias ID with him after shooting JFK with a rifle ordered by mail using that fake name?

Or ordered rifle by mail order writing the fake name in his own handwriting style?

Or having rifle sent to a P.O. Box addressed to his REAL name too?

Or Drops his fake ID inside a wallet at the scene where he just shot a police officer?

Removes shells one at a time from
His revolver while still at the scene and knowing he is being observed by witnesses?

Keeps the revolver used to shoot Tippit all the way to a theater and keeps weapon on his person even when it’s obvious police are about to enter the theater?

Supposedly had plan to have shootout    With police sometime after shooting Tippit , thus a reason to keep revolver, yet does not take Tippits revolver for added firepower?

Takes the bus transfer ticket from the pocket of shirt he changed from to the pocket Of the shirt he put on at the boarding room even though the ticket has expired at 1:00 pm?

a paper bus transfer ticket touched by McWatters bare fingers and also touched by Oswalds bare fingers upon receiving it and then touching it again to place in the pocket of his other shirt
Yet no fingerprints found on the ticket

Loose  shells in shirt pocket and ticket apparently able to not fall out and ticket not bent while struggling with police both inside and outside of theater

And said items not “discovered” in the shirt pocket until several hours later


Takes the bus transfer ticket from the pocket of shirt he changed from to the pocket Of the shirt he put on at the boarding room even though the ticket has expired at 1:00 pm?

You're backing into a very good point here , Zeon.    If Lee received a transfer when he debarked from the bus he probably would have had in the shirt pock of the shirt that he took off him his room at 1:00 O'clock.   And there would have been no reason to remove it and take it with him , since it was no longer valid. 
This would explain why the transfer is in pristine condition ..... If he had had the transfer in his pocket at the theater it surely would have gotten rumpled by the rough handling the police used in dragging Lee out of the theater.



a paper bus transfer ticket touched by McWatters bare fingers and also touched by Oswalds bare fingers upon receiving it and then touching it again to place in the pocket of his other shirt Yet no fingerprints found on the ticket

I'm not aware that the transfer was ever checked for finger prints.

Loose  shells in shirt pocket and ticket apparently able to not fall out and ticket not bent while struggling with police both inside and outside of theater

I believe that the live 38 cartridges were allegedly found in Lee's LEFT front trouser pocket.....  Which probably means they were placed there while Lee was being "searched" at the theater....  Lee wouldn't have put the shells in his LEFT pocket....  Because he was right handed, and it's very difficult to remove small object from the LEFT pocket if the person is right handed.    If Lee had wanted those shells in a pocket with easy access, he would have had them in the RIGHT pocket.
And said items not “discovered” in the shirt pocket until several hours later

Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: O H Lee and the Beckley Rooming House
« Reply #141 on: February 28, 2020, 03:44:53 PM »
Someone in authority obviously knew he was there - a police car honked while he was inside at 1pm on Nov 22nd 1963.

And the driver of that police car never came forward even though the WC were searching everywhere for the driver. Could it have been Tippit?

Are you sure that a police car was in front of the rooming house and the driver honked while Lee was inside changing his clothes??   Weren't 95% of the police cars being used at the TSBD or other emergengies ??....

I doubt that the police car story is true.....

Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: O H Lee and the Beckley Rooming House
« Reply #142 on: February 28, 2020, 10:49:03 PM »
 
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Mr. STERN - Was he asked his residence address in Dallas and did he give it?
Mr. BOOKHOUT - Yes; he furnished the address of 1026 North Beckley.
Mr. STERN - Did he say that he was living there under another name, or was another name and particularly the name O. H. Lee mentioned at all in this connection?
Mr. BOOKHOUT - He was asked why he was using the name Lee at this address, and he attempted to pass it off by stating that the landlord was an old lady, and his first name was Lee and she just had gotten it in her head that he was Mr. Lee. He never did explain about the initials O. H.
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Mr. BALL.  How many tenants did you have in October last year?
    Mrs. JOHNSON. You know, I'm sorry I didn't bring my register. I couldn't tell you exactly; I imagine I had about 10 or 12.
She didn't know because I believe Mrs Roberts did all the renting anyway and there never was a "register".
It was just pay for the week and that was it. This was the register----
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It looks like it was just the weeks that Oswald stayed there all filled out at once and somebody just wrote OH Lee on it ..5 letters that couldn't be all that hard to forge [and not a very good forgery at that] And just what in hell made this [COPY] of a scrap of paper all that Top Secret ?



RICK___BRIAN!!!! Take it please to another thread!

Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: O H Lee and the Beckley Rooming House
« Reply #143 on: February 28, 2020, 11:56:59 PM »
Of all things to make up--Why would Ms Roberts say that?

Have you had any experience with an elderly lady who is senile or has Alzhiemers?    In the early stages they will make up stuff and swear that it is true.

I suspect that Mrs Roberts made stuff up for no reason.    She may have imagined that she saw and heard a police car at the curb outside....

There in lies the problem.....  We just don't know that she saw a police car....  But I like your theory that it was Captain Westbrook.   Do you know where Westbrook was at 1:00 PM???

In the early stages they will make up stuff and swear that it is true.

Sounds like you

Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: O H Lee and the Beckley Rooming House
« Reply #144 on: February 29, 2020, 01:44:11 AM »
Oswald shot Kennedy and Tippit.  He almost shot Walker.  He almost killed himself (domage!)   And PrayerDude was someone off the street to get a better shot of Kennedy's motorcade going by.  Can't you tell he was holding up a camera to make his 'shot'?  This is only an opinion.  And if you want NBC to provide the hard copy of the film, then be polite, and not have an agenda.

Oh, Lordy.  How long has has this con been goin' on ??

Oswald shot Kennedy and Tippit
Accidentally. He's a patsy, remember.

He almost shot Walker
Exactly. As a patsy, that's what he was going for.

But according to these brainiacs he was a bad shot.
He proved them right when he hit Kennedy twice despite trying to miss.

Same @Tippit, the little prick tried to fire warning shots but missed.

« Last Edit: February 29, 2020, 05:56:03 AM by Bill Chapman »

Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: O H Lee and the Beckley Rooming House
« Reply #145 on: February 29, 2020, 04:18:48 AM »
But according to these brainiacs he was a bad shot.
He proved them right when he hit Kennedy twice despite trying to miss.

And this brainiac loves circular arguments.

Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: O H Lee and the Beckley Rooming House
« Reply #146 on: February 29, 2020, 04:47:22 PM »
Testers found that the little prick could have been @Tippit on time.

And that was based solely on brisk walking. You lot avoid the fact that several quicker methods of human locomotion (trotting, jogging, running, etc) were available to the guy who had already clearly demonstrated that he was in an awful hurry to get to the movies.

According to several witnesses Tippit was shot at 1:06    ( Markham 1:06, Benavides a few minutes after 1:00, Bowley arrived at 1:10, )  Lee's landlady, Mre Roberts said that Lee was at the Rooming house at 1:04.....    He could not have been at 10th & Patton  at the same time(1:04) that Tippit was tailing the man who shot him.