Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )

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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #518 on: October 07, 2020, 10:44:46 PM »
Calvery and co. are back at the TSBD steps in less than 30 seconds after the shooting has finished.

So you claim, based on yet another dubious identification.  By the way, who exactly is "and co."?

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Just to clarify the situation. You posted:

"It has nothing to do with Doyle being “hated by other researchers”. It’s because every single argument he made in favor of prayer-blob being Stanton was either false or made-up."

As you were comparing me to Doyle

When did I compare you to Doyle?  I just said that you're the only one here who agrees with his unsubstantiated conclusion about prayer-blob.

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I asked "which arguments I've used that were either false or made up ". Because you couldn't find such any arguments, rather than say so you introduce the word "evidence". A typical  BS: tactic on your behalf.

I never said you used any arguments that are false or made up -- I said that Doyle did.  You didn't claim to have any actual evidence for prayer-blob being Stanton.  Just that you imagine that it looks like a "fat lady".

Offline John Tonkovich

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #519 on: October 08, 2020, 04:10:59 AM »
Mr O'meara: Buell Wesley Frazier was interrogated and bullied by Fritz and friends for several hours on Friday night. His statements are worthless; he was just trying to save his own a#$. ( Not that I blame him; Fritz and Henry railroaded many innocent folks to the penitentiary...and beyond.)

What about the janitor on the ground floor? He places Oswald by the  "glass doors" in front, less than one minute after the assassination. I believe it's Eddie Piper?

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #520 on: October 08, 2020, 08:56:26 AM »
So you claim, based on yet another dubious identification.  By the way, who exactly is "and co."?

Dubious? How so?
At the time of the assassination Gloria Calvery is stood feet away from the President as the first shot hits him. With her are Karan Hicks, Karen Westbrook and Carol Reed, work colleagues from room 203 in the TSBD. These ladies are the "and co'"

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #521 on: October 08, 2020, 08:58:57 AM »
Mr O'meara: Buell Wesley Frazier was interrogated and bullied by Fritz and friends for several hours on Friday night. His statements are worthless; he was just trying to save his own a#$. ( Not that I blame him; Fritz and Henry railroaded many innocent folks to the penitentiary...and beyond.)

What about the janitor on the ground floor? He places Oswald by the  "glass doors" in front, less than one minute after the assassination. I believe it's Eddie Piper?

Hi John,

Would really like to know more about this janitor who saw Oswald by the glass doors less than a minute after the assassination. Where can I find out about this as I feel it might be important.

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #522 on: October 08, 2020, 05:13:44 PM »
Dubious? How so?

It's literally based on Tommy Graves squinting and imagining that he's seeing a stripe on her "skirt".  Never mind the fact that he doesn't actually know what Calvery was wearing that day.

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At the time of the assassination Gloria Calvery is stood feet away from the President as the first shot hits him. With her are Karan Hicks, Karen Westbrook and Carol Reed, work colleagues from room 203 in the TSBD. These ladies are the "and co'"

Yes, and how did you identify Hicks, Westbrook, and Reed back at the TSBD steps in less than 30 seconds?

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #523 on: October 08, 2020, 07:46:29 PM »
It's literally based on Tommy Graves squinting and imagining that he's seeing a stripe on her "skirt".  Never mind the fact that he doesn't actually know what Calvery was wearing that day.

Not really. Tommy and Sandy Larsen have put together a compelling argument for the identification of Calvery based on testimonial/photographic/video evidence. It's not, as you constantly suggest, a question of trying to identify anyone directly from the Darnell clip.

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Yes, and how did you identify Hicks, Westbrook, and Reed back at the TSBD steps in less than 30 seconds?

Karen Westbrook Scranton talks about them returning to the TSBD in the immediate aftermath of the shooting.

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #524 on: October 08, 2020, 08:22:32 PM »
Not really. Tommy and Sandy Larsen have put together a compelling argument for the identification of Calvery based on testimonial/photographic/video evidence. It's not, as you constantly suggest, a question of trying to identify anyone directly from the Darnell clip.

Yes really.  The "compelling argument" is that they think they see a stripe.

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Karen Westbrook Scranton talks about them returning to the TSBD in the immediate aftermath of the shooting.

When did she say who she returned with or how quickly?  But it's interesting that you bring up Westbrook, since she identified herself and Calvery in the Z film in a different spot than where Tommy Graves wants them to be.