JFK from Air Force 1 to Bethesda by helicopter

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Online Martin Weidmann

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Re: JFK from Air Force 1 to Bethesda by helicopter
« Reply #14 on: April 14, 2020, 01:58:49 AM »
Then there appears to be no contradiction at all. David Lifton and co reading way too much into things.

Of course there is a contradiction, but Custer couldn't have known that at the time. He was taking X-rays of JFK to be developed when he saw Jackie and Robert enter the hallway of the building. He did not know if they just arrived or if they had been there for a while, so he had no reason to question the fact the Kennedy's body was already in the morgue. He only found out about the contradiction after he was allowed to talk about the case, some 15 years later.

Online Gerry Down

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Re: JFK from Air Force 1 to Bethesda by helicopter
« Reply #15 on: April 19, 2020, 07:56:56 PM »
He only found out about the contradiction after he was allowed to talk about the case, some 15 years later.

15 years later is a long time to mix up the sequence of events. That could happen to anyone. That is a more reasonable excuse than JFKs body was switched.

Online Martin Weidmann

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Re: JFK from Air Force 1 to Bethesda by helicopter
« Reply #16 on: April 19, 2020, 09:45:13 PM »
15 years later is a long time to mix up the sequence of events. That could happen to anyone. That is a more reasonable excuse than JFKs body was switched.

Actually, that would have to be the collective memory of a substantial number of people that need to be mixed up about the same sequence of events.

Reasonable of not, real life is often stranger than fiction. Just because you can't wrap your head around a particular scenario doesn't mean it couldn't have happened or didn't happen. 

You have to take what the individual witnesses have said at face value and then look at the overall picture. When you do, you will find that those witnesses support eachother to such an extend that it would be nearly impossible for the sequence of events being different.

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Re: JFK from Air Force 1 to Bethesda by helicopter
« Reply #17 on: May 04, 2020, 09:17:49 PM »
As per  You tube  ' Len Osanic and Doug Horne The Airforce One Audio Tapes ' !  From about 1:12:00 to as long as you want to listen . There are some new details that I thought to be very interesting and states firmly that JFK's body was moved from Andrews AFB by ' Helicopter ' to Bethesda !!!!!!!

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Re: JFK from Air Force 1 to Bethesda by helicopter
« Reply #18 on: May 11, 2020, 02:09:36 PM »
As per  You tube  ' Len Osanic and Doug Horne The Airforce One Audio Tapes ' !  From about 1:12:00 to as long as you want to listen . There are some new details that I thought to be very interesting and states firmly that JFK's body was moved from Andrews AFB by ' Helicopter ' to Bethesda !!!!!!!

It was taken by hearse.

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Re: JFK from Air Force 1 to Bethesda by helicopter
« Reply #19 on: May 11, 2020, 02:13:18 PM »
It was taken by hearse.

You are going to have to prove that....

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Re: JFK from Air Force 1 to Bethesda by helicopter
« Reply #20 on: May 11, 2020, 02:21:49 PM »
You are going to have to prove that....

Roy Kellerman was there:

At 2:47 p.m., USAF 26000 was airborne for Washington, D.C., arriving at Andrews Air Force Base at 5:58 p.m., est.

While airborne, arrangements were made for a Naval ambulance from the New Naval Medical Center at Bethesda to be available at the airport. Upon landing we removed the casket, placed it into the ambulance. At the airport, Chief Rowley advised me that two FBI agents, Francis O'Neill, Jr., and James Siebert, had been assigned to this case and to allow them into the morgue at the U.S. Naval Hospital. I told Chief Rowley the cars would arrive at Andrews at about 8 p.m., and suggested he assign field agents to them to completely go over them for any evidence that might be found.

Mrs. Kennedy, Robert Kennedy and General McHugh sat in the rear of the ambulance- SAs Greer, Landis and myself with Dr. Burkley rode in the front to Bethesda, with a police escort. The body was immediately taken to the morgue and the family was assigned rooms in the Towers of the Center. Hill and Landis remained with Mrs. Kennedy in her quarters and William Greer and I remained in the morgue and viewed the autopsy examinations which were performed by Vice Admiral Gallway, Commanding Officer, NNMC, Chief Pathologist Cdr. James Humes, Lt. Col. Pierre A. Finck who is Chief, Military Environmental Pathology Division and Chief of Wound Ballistics, Pathology Branch, and J. Thornton Boswell, Cdr. Medical Corps, USN, together with the Naval Medical Staff. SA O'Leary was also in the morgue briefly. Agents O'Neill and Siebert were present.


LINK: http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/sa-kelle.htm