JFK from Air Force 1 to Bethesda by helicopter

[Mike Orr]

Why would so many Doctors and Nurses at Parkland talk of the blown out hole in the back of JFK's head that they had seen ! Arlen Specter asked Clint Hill at his Warren Commission Testimony . Mr. Specter --What did you observe as to President Kennedy's condition on arrival at the hospital ? Mr. Hill -- The right rear portion of his head was missing . It was lying in the rear seat of his car. His brain was exposed .There was blood and bits of brain all over the entire rear portion of the car . Mrs. Kennedy was completely covered with blood . There was so much blood that you could not tell if there had been any other wound or not , except for the one large gaping wound in the right rear portion of the head !  Clint Hill told the truth . He was right there ! As per the radio transmission between the plane and the White House about the helicopter to take the body of JFK , it is right on the radio transmission . The JFK casket which was empty was taken off one side and put in the grey Navy ambulance along with Jackie & Bobby Kennedy while JFK's body was taken off the jet from the other side and placed in the helicopter in the dark ! That is the reason for JFK's body to have time to be altered . If you saw the gash that was made for the throat frontal entry you would have thought that Dr. Malcolm Perry was a butcher . Dr. Malcolm Perry made the Trach. incision on top of the bullet hole which Perry said was an entry wound . Dr. Robert McClelland's said that Dr. Perry was very skilled with the scalpel and there would not be an incision that looked like a gash that was seen at Bethesda . Dr. McClellands position at the head of the gurney on which Kennedy lay gave him a close look at the severe wound at the  back of the Presidents head . The  :posterior portion of the skull had been extremely blasted , " he told the Commission . About a 1/3 of the Presidents brain tissue was gone , Dr. McClelland said !

[Martin Weidmann]

Let's try a hypothetical scenario for a second.

Most people can't figure out how a magic trick works until it is explained to them. That's when they all go; "is it really that simple? Now why didn't I think of that?" An essential part of any magic trick is misdirection.

In the conversations between Airforce One and the White House the possibility of a decoy hearse was one of the things being discussed as well as transportation of the body to Bethesda by helicopter. So, here's the hypothetical; what if the use of a decoy came into play when Kennedy's body was still at Parkland Hospital? What if the ornamental casket was empty all along and merely served as a decoy to draw attention away from the actual transportation of the body to Love Field?

In other words, what if Kennedy's body was already removed from the ornamental casket and placed in a inconspicuous grey shipping casket at Parkland Hospital?

[John Tonkovich]

Let's try a hypothetical scenario for a second.

Most people can't figure out how a magic trick works until it is explained to them. That's when they all go; "is it really that simple? Now why didn't I think of that?" An essential part of any magic trick is misdirection.

In the conversations between Airforce One and the White House the possibility of a decoy hearse was one of the things being discussed as well as transportation of the body to Bethesda by helicopter. So, here's the hypothetical; what if the use of a decoy came into play when Kennedy's body was still at Parkland Hospital? What if the ornamental casket was empty all along and merely served as a decoy to draw attention away from the actual transportation of the body to Love Field?

In other words, what if Kennedy's body was already removed from the ornamental casket and placed in a inconspicuous grey shipping casket at Parkland Hospital?

And Parklnd personnel and Secret Servicemen all said nothing, for the next 50+ years?  because?
the second Oswald is out there, on the prowl?

[Martin Weidmann]

And Parklnd personnel and Secret Servicemen all said nothing, for the next 50+ years?  because?
the second Oswald is out there, on the prowl?

What Parkland personnel and Secret Servicemen would that be, exactly?

The most important part of using a decoy operation is that, except for those directly involved, nobody knows anything about it. A decoy is about misdirection. When Kennedy was declared dead everybody left the emergency unit. The last persons, we know of, to see the President at Parkland were the people who put his body in the ornamental casket. What happened after that is anybody's guess.

Just how long after the body had been placed in the ornamental casket did the Secret Service men steal (because that's what it was) the casket? Could all the commotion about taking Kennedy to Washington have been the distraction they needed to sneak the shipping casket out of the hospital? It's a hypothetical scenario but can it be dismissed as wrong?

Do you have another plausible explanation for how Paul O'Connor and others could have removed Kennedy, in a body bag, from a grey shipping casket? There needs to be an explanation for that, unless of course you dismiss their combined testimony to the HSCA as lies. Are you one of those people who does that?

[John Tonkovich]

What Parkland personnel and Secret Servicemen would that be, exactly?

The most important part of using a decoy operation is that, except for those directly involved, nobody knows anything about it. A decoy is about misdirection. When Kennedy was declared dead everybody left the emergency unit. The last persons, we know of, to see the President at Parkland were the people who put his body in the ornamental casket. What happened after that is anybody's guess.

Just how long after the body had been placed in the ornamental casket did the Secret Service men steal (because that's what it was) the casket? Could all the commotion about taking Kennedy to Washington have been the distraction they needed to sneak the shipping casket out of the hospital? It's a hypothetical scenario but can it be dismissed as wrong?

Do you have another plausible explanation for how Paul O'Connor and others could have removed Kennedy, in a body bag, from a grey shipping casket? There needs to be an explanation for that, unless of course you dismiss their combined testimony to the HSCA as lies. Are you one of those people who does that?

I try to maintain a healthy skepticism.
Until I see evidence.

[Martin Weidmann]

I try to maintain a healthy skepticism.
Until I see evidence.

Evidence for what exactly?

That Kennedy's body was in a body bag when Paul O'Connor and others removed it from a grey shipping casket? Too many people need to have lied, without reason, for it not to be true. And that means it needs to be explained.

I try to maintain a healthy skepticism.

As do I... which is why I presented a hypothetical rather than a claim.

[Ray Mitcham]

Remember the grey shipping casket arrived at 6.35 p.m.