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Author Topic: BWF and LMR may not have been the only ones who saw LHO with a bag on 11/22/1963  (Read 98506 times)

Offline Walt Cakebread

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Why wouldn't the rifle "be available" in a scenario in which Oswald was complicit in his own frame up?  Good grief.  Why would the rifle be more difficult to conceal in a bag than curtain rods?  Why would Oswald be seen with a rifle near the parade route if it was in a bag and he carried it straight into the building hours before the motorcade?  That sounds like something Caprio might dream up.  But you think in a scenario in which Oswald wanted to be identified as the assassin, that he would carry a bag too short to contain the rifle and put curtain rods in it?  You can't honestly believe that kind of nonsense.  In your fantasy scenario, Oswald would carry the rifle in his bag.  It is an interesting insight into the mind of a CTer, though, that even when they suggest Oswald was complicit they still can't bring themselves to acknowledge that he carried the rifle.

But you think in a scenario in which Oswald wanted to be identified as the assassin, that he would carry a bag too short to contain the rifle and put curtain rods in it? 


No I do NOT think that Lee wanted to be identified as THE ASSASSIN.....   I believe that Lee wanted to be identified as an ATTEMPTED assassin....
And the stage play script called for him to carry curtain rods in a paper sack but he was not to allow anybody to see the actual contents of the paper sack....

 Why would the rifle be more difficult to conceal in a bag than curtain rods? ... Stupid question..... The sack was made of flimsy lightweight paper, and it was only 27 inches long....  Please make a video of someone placing a three foot piece of 2" X 4"...in a 27 inch long lightweight paper sack.....and post the video.

 Why would Oswald be seen with a rifle near the parade route if it was in a bag and he carried it straight into the building hours before the motorcade?

Psssst.....There were many TSBD employees on the first floor in and near the Domino room awaiting Truly's job assignments ......If Lee had walked in carrying a huge sack it would have drawn the curiosity of some of those guys, who would have asked "Whatcha got in the bag, Lee?"  just as BWF did when he saw the sack on the back seat of his car.   Lee didn't want to raise any questions.....   And then display curtain rods.....   The script called for him to carry a long sack but keep the contents a mystery.

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Offline Tim Nickerson

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Quite possibly. Or maybe it wasn't his toothbrush. Either way, someone else's prints would indicate that Mr Oswald had a secret associate in his life.


That is ludicrous. Try again.

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That is ludicrous. Try again.

Why is it ludicrous, Mr Nickerson? Do explain!  Thumb1:

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Offline Tim Nickerson

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Why is it ludicrous, Mr Nickerson? Do explain!  Thumb1:

Why the hell would Oswald be sharing his toothbrush? You are really reaching with that one. Why would they be interested in checking someone else's toothbrush for prints? One can just as easily come up with similar silly reasoning for checking the curtain rods. The curtain rods in the garage were not placed there by the Paines. They were there when they moved in. Maybe someone placed them there years before in preparation for the Big Event.  :D

Offline Alan Ford

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Why the hell would Oswald be sharing his toothbrush?

If-----------e.g.!-----------Mr J Ruby's prints were found on the same toothbrush as Mr Oswald's prints, you don't think that might be indicative of something interesting?

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Why would they be interested in checking someone else's toothbrush for prints?

Cart before horse, Mr Nickerson! Until they do the fingerprint test, they can't know for sure whether the toothbrush is someone else's. See? Logical!  Thumb1:

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One can just as easily come up with similar silly reasoning for checking the curtain rods. The curtain rods in the garage were not placed there by the Paines. They were there when they moved in. Maybe someone placed them there years before in preparation for the Big Event.  :D

 :D

No, that would not be comparable. But nice try!  Thumb1:

What else you got?

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Online Richard Smith

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But you think in a scenario in which Oswald wanted to be identified as the assassin, that he would carry a bag too short to contain the rifle and put curtain rods in it? 


No I do NOT think that Lee wanted to be identified as THE ASSASSIN.....   I believe that Lee wanted to be identified as an ATTEMPTED assassin....
And the stage play script called for him to carry curtain rods in a paper sack but he was not to allow anybody to see the actual contents of the paper sack....

 Why would the rifle be more difficult to conceal in a bag than curtain rods? ... Stupid question..... The sack was made of flimsy lightweight paper, and it was only 27 inches long....  Please make a video of someone placing a three foot piece of 2" X 4"...in a 27 inch long lightweight paper sack.....and post the video.

 Why would Oswald be seen with a rifle near the parade route if it was in a bag and he carried it straight into the building hours before the motorcade?

Psssst.....There were many TSBD employees on the first floor in and near the Domino room awaiting Truly's job assignments ......If Lee had walked in carrying a huge sack it would have drawn the curiosity of some of those guys, who would have asked "Whatcha got in the bag, Lee?"  just as BWF did when he saw the sack on the back seat of his car.   Lee didn't want to raise any questions.....   And then display curtain rods.....   The script called for him to carry a long sack but keep the contents a mystery.

Wow.  Just when I thought it was not possible to lower the idiot bar.  So Oswald wants to be identified as the ATTEMPTED assassin.  That means he has to do the very same things as the ASSASSIN.  Like carry a bag long enough to contain the rifle.  How hard would that be?  In your idiotic fantasy scenario, Oswald is complicit in the conspiracy.  he is doing what he is told.  But for some reason you can't bring yourself to acknowledge that means he would have the rifle in his bag.  Or at least a bag long enough to carry it. Very humorous.  Protecting Oswald at all costs while at the same time claiming he was working in the conspiracy.

How did your real assassin get the rifle into the building with all these TSBD employees on the lookout for an assassin?

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How did your real assassin get the rifle into the building with all these TSBD employees on the lookout for an assassin?

Which TSBD employees were on the lookout for an assassin, Mr Smith?  ???

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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Wow.  Just when I thought it was not possible to lower the idiot bar.  So Oswald wants to be identified as the ATTEMPTED assassin.  That means he has to do the very same things as the ASSASSIN.  Like carry a bag long enough to contain the rifle.  How hard would that be?  In your idiotic fantasy scenario, Oswald is complicit in the conspiracy.  he is doing what he is told.  But for some reason you can't bring yourself to acknowledge that means he would have the rifle in his bag.  Or at least a bag long enough to carry it. Very humorous.  Protecting Oswald at all costs while at the same time claiming he was working in the conspiracy.

How did your real assassin get the rifle into the building with all these TSBD employees on the lookout for an assassin?

That means he has to do the very same things as the ASSASSIN

Well not exactly...  An attempt misses the victim....Like General Walker....  And since the victim was not hit ....Only ONE person can know the INTENT of the shot.
An ATTEMPT can be a feigned .....Why do I have to explain this simple idea to you?