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Offline Margaret Kelly

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Re: Did Oswald Go To Mexico City?
« Reply #440 on: February 23, 2020, 09:45:03 AM »
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Is this the "Slawson-Coleman" report?:

https://www.history-matters.com/archive/contents/wc/contents_wcmemo_Oswald-Foreign-Activities.htm

I thought this report was supposed to be on Oswalds mexico city trip. The chapter headings don't mention mexico city.

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Re: Did Oswald Go To Mexico City?
« Reply #440 on: February 23, 2020, 09:45:03 AM »


Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: Did Oswald Go To Mexico City?
« Reply #441 on: February 24, 2020, 12:12:11 AM »
Getting the story right....
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J. Edgar Hoover had not ruled out the possibility of a communist plot to kill John F. Kennedy. At 1.40 on 29th November, Hoover told Lyndon B. Johnson on the telephone: "This angle in Mexico is giving us a great deal of trouble because the story there is of this man Oswald getting $6,500 from the Cuban embassy and then coming back to this country with it. We're not able to prove that fact, but the information was that he was there on the 18th of September in Mexico City and we are able to prove conclusively he was in New Orleans that day. Now then they've changed the dates. The story came in changing the dates to the 28th of September and he was in Mexico City on the 28th. Now the Mexican police have again arrested this woman Duran, who is a member of the Cuban embassy... and we're going to confront her with the original informant, who saw the money pass, so he says, and we're also going to put the lie detector test on him."

That evening Fernando Gutiérrez Barrios told Winston Scott that Gilberto Alvarado had recanted and signed a statement admitting that his story of seeing Lee Harvey Oswald in the Cuban Embassy was completely false. He said his motive was to try to get the United States to take action against Fidel Castro.

A few days later Gilberto Alvarado reverted to his original story. He told his Nicaraguan handler that the only reason that he recanted was that his interrogators threatened "to hang him by his testicles". However, soon afterwards, he recanted again.
https://spartacus-educational.com/JFKduranS.htm
For those Limeys, Aussies, and Canucks that don't know anything about the Mexican Federales ..they are just as brutal as any cartel members...many of them are cartel members.

Offline Mike Orr

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Re: Did Oswald Go To Mexico City?
« Reply #442 on: February 29, 2020, 10:44:17 PM »
No proof of Oswald being in Mexico City in 1963 !

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Offline Thomas Graves

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Re: Did Oswald Go To Mexico City?
« Reply #443 on: March 01, 2020, 12:27:54 AM »
No proof of Oswald being in Mexico City in 1963 !

I agree.

He was probably impersonated over sure-to-be-tapped-by-CIA phone lines on Saturday September 28, and on Tuesday October 1 by the same KGB officer (Nikolai Leonov) who had given Sylvia Duran some taken-in-Minsk photos of Oswald, and who had given her an already-forged Cuban application form, and who had told her and the Cuban consul, Eusebio Azcue, what to do and say (with Fidel Castro's permission, of course) about the "Oswald" who had allegedly visited them, desperately trying to get to the USSR via Cuba.

All speculation, of course, but it is interesting to note that the combined descriptions of "Oswald" that Duran gave in 1963 and in 1978, and which Azcue gave in 1978, describe Leonov to a "T", and he would have had access to those photos taken in Minsk, and to the high-quality forgery services of his KGB colleagues.

--  MWT  ;)
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Offline Ted Shields

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Re: Did Oswald Go To Mexico City?
« Reply #444 on: March 02, 2020, 10:36:55 AM »
No proof of Oswald being in Mexico City in 1963 !

Apart from multiple eye witnesses and multiple Oswald signatures.

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Online Steve M. Galbraith

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Re: Did Oswald Go To Mexico City?
« Reply #445 on: March 02, 2020, 02:37:21 PM »
Apart from multiple eye witnesses and multiple Oswald signatures.
And multiple documents - two from Oswald himself - stating it.

After he returned from MC, he mailed a typewritten letter to the Soviet Embassy in Washington discussing the visit (he complained about his treatment by the Cubans) and asking them to expedite his visa request. It was typed on Ruth Paine's typewriter (verified by the FBI). Both Ruth and Marina testified they saw him typing it. He had written out a rough draft - found by Ruth Paine - of that letter (below). The draft letter was in his handwriting. The typed letter was signed by him. The address on the label was identified as being written by him.

Witnesses on the bus going and returning, witnesses in MC, signatures, documents, photos for his transit visa application, circumstantial evidence....it's a pretty long list. I'm not sure what more is needed. Cuban and Soviet officials/personnel, including three KGB agents, said the man they met was Oswald. Were they in on it too? The CIA-KGB-Cuban intelligence conspiracy to frame Oswald? Whew, everybody was out to setup poor Oswald. The guy couldn't catch a break.

I keep repeating this in the hope that it'll get through. A triumph of hope over experience <g>.



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Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: Did Oswald Go To Mexico City?
« Reply #446 on: March 02, 2020, 03:11:16 PM »
And multiple documents - two from Oswald himself - stating it.
I keep repeating this in the hope that it'll get through. A triumph of hope over experience 
 The guy couldn't catch a break.
Yawn-- Please give us one.
 
Apart from multiple eye witnesses and multiple Oswald signatures.
Ho hum.

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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Did Oswald Go To Mexico City?
« Reply #447 on: March 02, 2020, 03:42:40 PM »
Apart from multiple eye witnesses and multiple Oswald signatures.


You're right, Mr Shields.   There's plenty of evidence that Lee went to Mexico City at the end of September 1963.    I cannot understand why some folks deny that he was there....   

I do believe that J.Edgar Hoover is responsible for the disinformation that created the controversy.  After the murder of JFK,   Hoover did not want it known that his "Extra Special" agents were behind the Mexico City escapade.   They had manipulated Lee Oswald into going to Mexico City where Cuba had an embassy in which Lee could apply for a visa to Cuba.   This was all part of the "sheep dipping" that they had been performing to make Lee Oswald appear to be a  communist and a friend of Cuba.

The fact that the  Cuban Ambassador  refused to grant Lee Oswald a visa is strong evidence that the Cubans knew that they were being scammed.