Did Oswald really beat his wife?

[John Iacoletti]

LOL

Are you saying Mother Dearest was actually in the tub while bathing Dirty Harvey? They were saving water I suppose. I guess by her saying he was 'too big' by age 10-11 she meant for the tub, huh? The hits just keep on

It seems you are in the habit of making crap up and then asking the other person if that's what they are saying.

No, that's not what I'm saying.  But nice dodge.

STOP twisting and exaggerating what I said: I asked if sleeping with his mother might be a factor in his later wife-beating.

"his later wife-beating" is what this thread is discussing the veracity of.  You don't just get to state it as a fact to make your weird judgmental correlations.

[John Iacoletti]

No wonder Marina gave up the ghost with this bullying little prick:

23. He treated Marina very poorly. He belittled her and was boorish to her in our presence. He talked to her and ordered her around just as though she were a mere chattel. He was never polite or tender 'to her. I feel very strongly that she was frightened of him. The only occasion I saw him physically mistreat her was the occasion I have mentioned but I heard repeatedly from Mrs. Hall George Bouhe, and others that Oswald was physically mistreating her.
24. Oswald was not grateful for any of the help that was being accorded to him and Marina. He never once offered to contribute in even a small way to Mrs. Hall or any of the others with whom Marina stayed. This was often a topic of conversation among us. We did not have much money ourselves and we were knocking ourselves out to help. He did not express any thanks or evidence the slightest appreciation; in fact, he evidenced displeasure and contempt.
25. I expressed to Mrs. Hall and to my friend George Bouhe, and to others that I thought that they were only worsening things because the Oswalds did not appear appreciative of what was being done for them. He acted as though the world owed him a living. I had the impression from time to time that Marina was pretending and acting.
26. Oswald always acted toward her like a soldier commanding one of his troops. My overall impression of Oswald was that he was angry with the whole world and with himself to boot; that he really did not know what he wanted;
that he was frustrated because he was not looked up to; and that he was dissatisfied with everything, including himself.
27. Mrs. Hall told me on several occasions that Marina had said to her that she was quite afraid of Oswald and that when she got to know a little more English she intended to leave him. Oswald did not care who was present as far as his boorish attitude toward Marina was concerned. It seemed that he did not care what others thought about anything.
28. Anna Meller, Mrs. Hall, George Bouhe and the deMohrenschildts, and all that group had pity for Marina and her child. None of us cared for Oswald because of his political philosophy, his criticism of the United States, his apparent lack of interest in anyone but himself and because of his treatment of Marina. Although the men were sometimes skeptical about helping them out, the ladies were quite compassionate about Marina and felt that she needed help not only because of their straitened financial circumstances, but because of Oswald's mistreatment of her.
29. I recall that when I saw the newspaper item in the Fort Worth paper about Oswald returning from Russia with his Russian wife, I spoke to Max Clark and his wife. They are good friends and fine people, and he is a lawyer. We were all apprehensive about coming in contact with the Oswalds but all the friends of mine later expressed the view that the Federal Bureau of Investigation knew Oswald and Marina were coming into this country, and If they did not do anything about it, it was probably all right to have contact with them. I am afraid I never became completely reassured.
30. Marina never had any money, not even pennies. Oswald would not give any money to her. Consequently, when she lived with Mrs. Hall and later with the others she and her baby were utterly-dependent upon their host. She could not buy even a package of cigarettes, and even had she wished, she could not tender any token to her hosts.

Booyah, MCP

Mr. "cut and paste plagiarized argument with no attribution" strikes again.

[John Iacoletti]

30. Marina never had any money, not even pennies. Oswald would not give any money to her. Consequently, when she lived with Mrs. Hall and later with the others she and her baby were utterly-dependent upon their host. She could not buy even a package of cigarettes, and even had she wished, she could not tender any token to her hosts.

The same guy who rarely left Marina money - she said he would leave her a few dollars on Monday when he returned to the rooming house - suddenly decides to leave $170 on the day of the assassination? Even though, Marina said, he was going to see her again on the weekend? Why not leave the money on Monday per the usual routine?

And again, one hundred and seventy dollars?

This is where the Oswald defenders reply, "Lots of men leave their wives money."

Junie needed new shoes.

He can't win.  You guys criticize him when he gives her money and you criticize him when he doesn't give her money.

[Bill Chapman]

Where in hell did that come from??
Also ...try your own links before you post them.... to see if they work.
And stop that drinking...it's bad for you.

John Pic spoke about Oswald being washed by his mother and sleeping with her
You put his statement down, which to me means you are calling him a liar

[John Mytton]

Junie needed new shoes.

He can't win.  You guys criticize him when he gives her money and you criticize him when he doesn't give her money.

Junie needed new shoes.

She was a growing girl and would constantly need new shoes.

He can't win.  You guys criticize him when he gives her money and you criticize him when he doesn't give her money.

You might have a point if the time he gave Marina enough money to buy shoes wasn't the very day of the assassination and the amount Oswald left was quite sizable which means he must have been accumulating it for some time, therefore if Oswald was truly conscientious and loved his family he would have given his children the basic necessities of life much earlier like when they actually needed it and not at the last minute out of desperation.



JohnM

[Jerry Freeman]

You put his statement down, which to me means you are calling him a liar

I quoted his testimony therefore I call him a liar???   
Have a few more beers and go lay down.

[John Iacoletti]

You might have a point if the time he gave Marina enough money to buy shoes wasn't the very day of the assassination and the amount Oswald left was quite sizable which means he must have been accumulating it for some time, therefore if Oswald was truly conscientious and loved his family he would have given his children the basic necessities of life much earlier like when they actually needed it and not at the last minute out of desperation.

Your mindreading skills are underwhelming.

I understand though why you have to latch on to silly crap like wedding rings and cash when you don't have any real evidence of murder.